News Junkie: Elderly woman shoots bully, no charges!

[HK_01]

Good thing there were no charges, serves that bastard right.

I just wish we'd finally get around to not going so easy on such people. I still think we should send such people to hard labor camps, preferrably in Siberia or some other harsh environment. That would teach people like that guy or those retards who molested a 14 year old girl in a train station and then beat up a guy who was trying to help. Or the guys who had a race going 160km/h in a 50 or 60 zone with their cars and hit a young girl who was just crossing the road. Or the ones who killed a man trying to help two young boys who were being threatened by a group of something around 18 year olds. And that's just the cases that have been in the media the past month or so.

Shooting a human is shooting a human. If a thief breaks into your house, slips on a toy, and breaks their leg, they can probably sue you and win.

Not where I live, that'd be ridiculous. Also, are you seriously using that as an argument for your opinion?

If someone attacks you and you kill them in self defense, it's still murder

No, it's not. It's self-defense and you get no punishment for that.

So if someone smashes your window with bricks and insults you, suddenly you can gravely injure a 12 year old boy through a bullet wound and you get off scott free? What the fuck?

Yep, if you can't defend yourself any other way, sure. What, is she supposed to sit there and hope that he won't do anything to her in the 30 minutes or so it takes the cops to actually get there?

Assault is assault, whether self defense or not. Shotting another human is just plain and simple shooting them. It's bull shit.

Again, self defense is not the same thing as assaulting someone, and for a good reason.

And, tell me, would you honestly not do anything if someone attacked you? You'd just sit there and let them do whatever they want, maybe murder you, and not fight back? Are you the reincarnation of Ghandi (not the CIV one) or something?

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

I'm on the old girl's side here. What was she going to do, throw bricks back? Let's face it, that'd just be pitiable.
Hell, what would have happened if the kid hadn't grown out of it, and started bringing more and more friends to vandalise her property and assault her? He already had one buddy there, and the more people he invites to the little party increases the chance of a brick striking the woman somewhere lethal.
So yes, shooting was justified. What were you expecting, a stern telling off?

Lets assume the cops didn't show up in this case. I'm sure if the kid started bringing 3, 4, 5 friends along, the cops would respond or SOMEBODY would notice. Why did the cops ignore someone who was so loved in the neightborhood?

And if you notice the window in the news article, she was part of the neighborhood watch

 

[linwolf]

Shooting a child can never be justified, no matter how must of a bastard the child might be.

 

[Secret world leader (shhh)]

The little shit deserved it.

This is good news, maybe the world won't go to shit as fast as i thought.

 

[Verlander]

Why does a granny have a gun?

 

[Sir_Tor]

The little shit deserved it.

This is good news, maybe the world won't go to shit as fast as i thought.

What this guy said!

I hope the fucker felt pain!

 

[sms_117b]

Shooting a human is shooting a human. If a thief breaks into your house, slips on a toy, and breaks their leg, they can probably sue you and win.

If someone attacks you and you kill them in self defense, it's still murder

So if someone smashes your window with bricks and insults you, suddenly you can gravely injure a 12 year old boy through a bullet wound and you get off scott free? What the fuck?

Assault is assault, whether self defense or not. Shotting another human is just plain and simple shooting them. It's bull shit.

EDIT: Here's an idea granny: Call the cops before going Rambo on a child's ass

Someone attacks you and you kill them it's manslaughter, and generally the defender wouldn't be a violent person and so would have to live with it.

Also no, assault is not assault if it's self defense, you can upto break bones and dislocate joints in self defence, I have, and I got off scot free because I was defending myself from a person with a knife.

She did call the cops

 

[BigEaZyE]

So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?

No. But the bricks the kid was throwing are potentially lethal. Probably the key reason no charges are being filed against granny.

This precedent should make all future riots a lot easier to deal with. If children can be justifiably shot for throwing bricks, then the police should have no trouble opening up on adults throwing any object that is considered potentially lethal.

People should think long and hard about whether they want to be shot the next time their favourite sports team loses a game.

People that take to throwing bricks because their favourite sports team lost a game have no sympathy from me if they get shot.

 

[Vrach]

Hahaha, serves the little ************ right

In all seriousness though, she could've blown his brains out, so not really ideal solution.. guess they can't imprison her at an old age though.

So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?

No. But the bricks the kid was throwing are potentially lethal. Probably the key reason no charges are being filed against granny.

This precedent should make all future riots a lot easier to deal with. If children can be justifiably shot for throwing bricks, then the police should have no trouble opening up on adults throwing any object that is considered potentially lethal.

People should think long and hard about whether they want to be shot the next time their favourite sports team loses a game.

People that take to throwing bricks because their favourite sports team lost a game have no sympathy from me if they get shot.

^Very much agreed

 

[Jamash]

So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?

Does freedom of speech not apply to children, who can be shot for being mouthy?

I know it's not quite as simple as that, but it does seem a bit extreme to shoot a child, even if he was being a bastard.

I hope she was a crack shot and was aiming for his shoulder, because if not she's extremely lucky. Six inches out and she could have hit him in the head or chest.

Whilst you are right, you straight face tell me, that if a kid destroyed the windows of your house costing you a few hundred (maybe thousands) $'s of damage, almost hitting you in a repeat process, you've had a little shit ruining you life for a year, and the police had done nothing, you wouldn't do something about him. Also being old (and possibly alone) you're not really able to do anything, guns are legal, you have one, it's going to happen eventually.

I wouldn't shoot a child with a gun, especially if I was that old and feeble that I couldn't be sure I'd hit what I was aiming for.

I'd make my stepson do something before I'd potentially murder a child, after all, if the stepson was involved enough to talk to the papers about the situation, so the least he could do was get involved before I had to do something so drastic. I'd also get my family to install CCTV so I have evidence of the attacks with which to force a prosecution.

I'd also phone the police again and make them do something, force them to intervene again and warn them that if they don't do their job, I'll be forced to shoot a child and I'd then sue them for negligence.

Even if I had to resort to using a gun, I'd show it first and fire a warning shot before shooting a child like a rabid dog... just because guns are legal to use in self defence doesn't mean it's morally correct to use them on children, as an adult of more than 5 times his age and experience, I should know better than to shoot children.

 

[tiredinnuendo]

So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?

No. But the bricks the kid was throwing are potentially lethal. Probably the key reason no charges are being filed against granny.

This precedent should make all future riots a lot easier to deal with. If children can be justifiably shot for throwing bricks, then the police should have no trouble opening up on adults throwing any object that is considered potentially lethal.

People should think long and hard about whether they want to be shot the next time their favourite sports team loses a game.

I think the difference here is a question of where the attack took place. Legally, a man's (or woman's) home is still their castle. If someone is on your property without your permission, a good number of their rights have already gone away. If they're actively assaulting you at the same time, you're pretty much okay to kill them where they stand.

That said, it says no charges have been filed. I know if my kid were doing that and got themselves plugged, I wouldn't press charges on the old lady either. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have the option.

- J

 

[DarkRyter]

I don't know why, but I imagine her saying "Eat some lead, *****!" and shooting the gun sideways.

 

[Jodah]

Little shit deserved it. Picking on a "defenseless" old lady...Hes lucky he only got hit in the shoulder.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

Shooting a human is shooting a human. If a thief breaks into your house, slips on a toy, and breaks their leg, they can probably sue you and win.

If someone attacks you and you kill them in self defense, it's still murder

So if someone smashes your window with bricks and insults you, suddenly you can gravely injure a 12 year old boy through a bullet wound and you get off scott free? What the fuck?

Assault is assault, whether self defense or not. Shotting another human is just plain and simple shooting them. It's bull shit.

EDIT: Here's an idea granny: Call the cops before going Rambo on a child's ass

Someone attacks you and you kill them it's manslaughter, and generally the defender wouldn't be a violent person and so would have to live with it.

Also no, assault is not assault if it's self defense, you can upto break bones and dislocate joints in self defence, I have, and I got off scot free because I was defending myself from a person with a knife.

She did call the cops

3rd degree murder is murdering someone without preconceived intent to kill them. This would occur in: self defense. So like... Manslaughter! You're thinking 1st degree murder, which is killing someone after having a preconceived intent to kill them (I'm going to walk in there and kill those people)

And you got a lucky break. My friend was attacked in a bar and punshed him out in about 3 hits. He was arrested for assault. it depends on whether the cop is a nice person or not

 

[Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon]

What? That's stupid! If I went around shooting everyone who did that I would've shot hundreds, possibly thousands of people. This is unjustifiable, especially seen as though it was a kid. And newsflash, kids do stupid things without thinking about it. She should of called the police and have him sent to juvie.

 

[HK_01]

Shooting a human is shooting a human. If a thief breaks into your house, slips on a toy, and breaks their leg, they can probably sue you and win.

If someone attacks you and you kill them in self defense, it's still murder

So if someone smashes your window with bricks and insults you, suddenly you can gravely injure a 12 year old boy through a bullet wound and you get off scott free? What the fuck?

Assault is assault, whether self defense or not. Shotting another human is just plain and simple shooting them. It's bull shit.

EDIT: Here's an idea granny: Call the cops before going Rambo on a child's ass

Someone attacks you and you kill them it's manslaughter, and generally the defender wouldn't be a violent person and so would have to live with it.

Also no, assault is not assault if it's self defense, you can upto break bones and dislocate joints in self defence, I have, and I got off scot free because I was defending myself from a person with a knife.

She did call the cops

3rd degree murder is murdering someone without preconceived intent to kill them. This would occur in: self defense. So like... Manslaughter! You're thinking 1st degree murder, which is killing someone after having a preconceived intent to kill them (I'm going to walk in there and kill those people)

And you got a lucky break. My friend was attacked in a bar and punshed him out in about 3 hits. He was arrested for assault. it depends on whether the cop is a nice person or not

I didn't know that in Canada self-defense was considered the same as manslaughter. Now that I know that I'll be sure to never ever go there if I'm not allowed to defend myself.

 

[C95J]

to be honest, I don't feel sorry for the boy one bit, if he has been doing those thing for a YEAR, and not expect anything bad to happen to him in return, then he is stupid. Although I guess it is only fair for the old woman to be charged, I don't believe she should. Little kids need to learn the difference between right and wrong, and some parents need to learn how to raise their kids.

 

[Jodah]

Shooting a human is shooting a human. If a thief breaks into your house, slips on a toy, and breaks their leg, they can probably sue you and win.

If someone attacks you and you kill them in self defense, it's still murder

So if someone smashes your window with bricks and insults you, suddenly you can gravely injure a 12 year old boy through a bullet wound and you get off scott free? What the fuck?

Assault is assault, whether self defense or not. Shotting another human is just plain and simple shooting them. It's bull shit.

EDIT: Here's an idea granny: Call the cops before going Rambo on a child's ass

Someone attacks you and you kill them it's manslaughter, and generally the defender wouldn't be a violent person and so would have to live with it.

Also no, assault is not assault if it's self defense, you can upto break bones and dislocate joints in self defence, I have, and I got off scot free because I was defending myself from a person with a knife.

She did call the cops

3rd degree murder is murdering someone without preconceived intent to kill them. This would occur in: self defense. So like... Manslaughter! You're thinking 1st degree murder, which is killing someone after having a preconceived intent to kill them (I'm going to walk in there and kill those people)

And you got a lucky break. My friend was attacked in a bar and punshed him out in about 3 hits. He was arrested for assault. it depends on whether the cop is a nice person or not

No matter if it was self defense or not you can pretty much guarantee you will be arrested. That is the only thing that surprises me here. Keep in mind being arrested does not mean you are charged with a crime. Until you go in front of a Judge for arraignment you are not charged with a crime.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

Shooting a human is shooting a human. If a thief breaks into your house, slips on a toy, and breaks their leg, they can probably sue you and win.

If someone attacks you and you kill them in self defense, it's still murder

So if someone smashes your window with bricks and insults you, suddenly you can gravely injure a 12 year old boy through a bullet wound and you get off scott free? What the fuck?

Assault is assault, whether self defense or not. Shotting another human is just plain and simple shooting them. It's bull shit.

EDIT: Here's an idea granny: Call the cops before going Rambo on a child's ass

Someone attacks you and you kill them it's manslaughter, and generally the defender wouldn't be a violent person and so would have to live with it.

Also no, assault is not assault if it's self defense, you can upto break bones and dislocate joints in self defence, I have, and I got off scot free because I was defending myself from a person with a knife.

She did call the cops

3rd degree murder is murdering someone without preconceived intent to kill them. This would occur in: self defense. So like... Manslaughter! You're thinking 1st degree murder, which is killing someone after having a preconceived intent to kill them (I'm going to walk in there and kill those people)

And you got a lucky break. My friend was attacked in a bar and punshed him out in about 3 hits. He was arrested for assault. it depends on whether the cop is a nice person or not

I didn't know that in Canada self-defense was considered the same as manslaughter. Now that I know that I'll be sure to never ever go there if I'm not allowed to defend myself.

In Canada, if you kill someone you kill someone. You have to take tests and evaluations enough just to own a gun. That gun is for non-lethal self defense in a life threatening situation (hunting permits too, but Canada doens't let you have a gun for free. They test your ass). How granted the kids were throwing bricks, but:

A) If it's life threatening, you call the cops and tell themn "I'm in danger, I'm having bricks thrown at me" and hang up. They trace the call to you and come over. Why the cops wouldn't show up to this is bullshit. Cops in my town would get REAMED for not answering this call.

B) her insurance company wouldn't pay for the windows in the event of assault?