Newtown Officials Vote to Raze Home of Sandy Hook Gunman

[soren7550]

http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-votes-raze-home-gunman-004816960.html

In a not very surprising decision, Newtown officials have decided to raze the home of Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza, where he lived and killed his mother before going to Sandy Hook Elementary to kill 20 students and 6 faculty members before killing himself.

This follows the town's decision to demolish Sandy Hook Elementary School (and to build a new school right where the 'old' one was), and to incinerate all belongings within the house. The land will likely be left vacant after the demolition.

While I understand how there's a lot of people hurting because of the tragedy, these people are just constant seeking non existent, easy boogeymen to eradicate to try to make themselves feel better. The time and money they keep wasting on these endeavors is baffling. Instead of tacking the real reasons these sort of horrible things happen (people unable to get access to psychiatric help, dangerous people having easy access to guns), they keep wasting resources on this.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

 

[Erttheking]

Kind of pathetic really. I mean what does this accomplish aside from some feel good?

Disturbing too. Kind of reminds me of the whole "Unperson" thing.

 

[Zhukov]

Couldn't they auction it off and put the money toward helping the victims?

I mean, it's just a house. Just an innocent house! It didn't choose to be part of this, you monsters!

Seriously though, it kinda reeks of impotence doesn't it?

"You killed dozens and shattered the lives of hundreds more before killing yourself? Yeah, well, well... we'll, umm... we'll burn your house down after you're dead! Yeah! How about that, huh?"

Reminds me of the people leaving "Fuck you, burn in hell", comments on Elliot Roger's social media pages. Guys, I don't think he can hear you.

 

[Roxas1359]

Couldn't they auction it off and put the money toward helping the victims?

I mean, it's just a house. Just an innocent house! It didn't choose to be part of this, you monsters!

Seriously though, it kinda reeks of impotence doesn't it?

"You killed dozens and shattered the lives of hundreds more before killing yourself? Yeah, well, well... we'll, umm... we'll burn your house down after you're dead! Yeah! How about that, huh?"

There is so much that the city could actually do with that land as well. Sure it's 2 acres, but it could still be used for much more. Although I doubt that the city would be able to sell the house on it's own considering the previous owners, and retailers are supposed to disclose any bad history about a house before selling it. At least down here in California they are, so you'll always know if someone was murdered in and or in front of your house.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I can understand destroying his house, who is going to want to live there, beyond people you don't want as neighbours?

The school though...no.

Looks a lit like trying to erase the tragedy, which leads to little more than surprise next time.

 

[Zontar]

This just seems irrational, based purely on emotional responses without thinking things through. Even ignoring the house, what about the items inside? And why is the demolition coming out of the charity fund that was made in response to the shooting? And why the hell does the school need to be rebuilt?

 

[Ryotknife]

Eh, if i remember correctly the school was pretty old (i think the building is pushing 70 years), any remodeling done would have to comply with current code which would cost almost as much as starting over from scratch (building regulations has changed a LOT in 70 years).

Dunno, going scorched earth and rebuilding from scratch actually makes sense in this case. You eliminate the possibility of outdated building practices which can cause safety or financial issues from the 50's, you can implement cost saving practices to reduce the maintence cost of the building in the long run (better insulation, etc).

here i found out something that can shed some light

http://www.sandyhook2016.com/faq.html

"

Analysis of the renovate vs. build new by the Advisory Committee showed that costs to renovate this 56 year old building, bring it up to code, eliminate the portables, make it energy efficient, provide necessary safety features, and more, generated a cost almost at the same level of new building construction"

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Furthermore, I believe it is in our best interests that Carthage be destroyed!

It's good to know that Cato's ramblings remain relevant into modern times.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I can understand destroying his house, who is going to want to live there, beyond people you don't want as neighbours?

I wouldn't care about a house's history. I don't believe in the supernatural, or bad energy, or anything else like that so a building is a building to me, doesn't really matter what happened there. If I liked a house and I could get it cheap because a psychopath lived there I would absolutely take it.

Furthermore, I believe it is in our best interests that Carthage be destroyed!

It's good to know that Cato's ramblings remain relevant into modern times.

I wonder if they salted the earth afterward so that nothing would ever live on those 2 acres again.

 

[CaptainCoxwaggle]

It would be better for the people of Newtown to learn from their mistake and provide firearms for their teachers rather then once again rely on useless security measures like video camera's.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Instead of tacking the real reasons these sort of horrible things happen (people unable to get access to psychiatric help, dangerous people having easy access to guns), they keep wasting resources on this.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

I don't see how murdering a legal gun owner and stealing their guns counts as 'easy access'. That actually seems pretty high on the difficulty scale (Where, say, 1 is walking into a store and buying a sandwich).

 

[Thaluikhain]

Furthermore, I believe it is in our best interests that Carthage be destroyed!

It's good to know that Cato's ramblings remain relevant into modern times.

Do you have figs in your clothes?

I can understand destroying his house, who is going to want to live there, beyond people you don't want as neighbours?

I wouldn't care about a house's history. I don't believe in the supernatural, or bad energy, or anything else like that so a building is a building to me, doesn't really matter what happened there. If I liked a house and I could get it cheap because a psychopath lived there I would absolutely take it.

As I understand it, the US has plenty of houses going cheap because of the GFC as it is, unless that's changed.

 

[Queen Michael]

Eh, if i remember correctly the school was pretty old (i think the building is pushing 70 years), any remodeling done would have to comply with current code which would cost almost as much as starting over from scratch (building regulations has changed a LOT in 70 years).

Dunno, going scorched earth and rebuilding from scratch actually makes sense in this case. You eliminate the possibility of outdated building practices which can cause safety or financial issues from the 50's, you can implement cost saving practices to reduce the maintence cost of the building in the long run (better insulation, etc).

here i found out something that can shed some light

http://www.sandyhook2016.com/faq.html

"

Analysis of the renovate vs. build new by the Advisory Committee showed that costs to renovate this 56 year old building, bring it up to code, eliminate the portables, make it energy efficient, provide necessary safety features, and more, generated a cost almost at the same level of new building construction"

If this is true I'm fine with razing the school to the ground. I just hope they play Alice Cooper as they're doing it.

 

[soren7550]

Eh, if i remember correctly the school was pretty old (i think the building is pushing 70 years), any remodeling done would have to comply with current code which would cost almost as much as starting over from scratch (building regulations has changed a LOT in 70 years).

Dunno, going scorched earth and rebuilding from scratch actually makes sense in this case. You eliminate the possibility of outdated building practices which can cause safety or financial issues from the 50's, you can implement cost saving practices to reduce the maintence cost of the building in the long run (better insulation, etc).

here i found out something that can shed some light

http://www.sandyhook2016.com/faq.html

"

Analysis of the renovate vs. build new by the Advisory Committee showed that costs to renovate this 56 year old building, bring it up to code, eliminate the portables, make it energy efficient, provide necessary safety features, and more, generated a cost almost at the same level of new building construction"

70 (or 56 if this source is correct) isn't that old for a school. Tearing the whole thing down in order to make it 'up to code' seems like a convenient excuse, as there is no way the rebuilding would have been done if the shooting never happened (having been to many schools, there was no way a single one of them was up to any building regulations, or even close), as doing so would take a lot of money, time, and disrupt & displace the entire student & faculty body.

Instead of tacking the real reasons these sort of horrible things happen (people unable to get access to psychiatric help, dangerous people having easy access to guns), they keep wasting resources on this.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

I don't see how murdering a legal gun owner and stealing their guns counts as 'easy access'. That actually seems pretty high on the difficulty scale (Where, say, 1 is walking into a store and buying a sandwich).

Easy access as in he could have easily accessed the guns at any time (they were kept in the house he lived in), regardless of murdering his mother.

 

[Dr. Thrax]

It would be better for the people of Newtown to learn from their mistake and provide firearms for their teachers rather then once again rely on useless security measures like video camera's.

Where's the money for that going to come from?
Guns are not cheap things, and if they go through with buying a firearm for each teacher, they'd need to purchase proper gun storage for every single firearm in that school. Good gun safes are not cheap, then you need to have the teachers trained so that they can properly shoot, and training for every teacher and faculty member is not cheap. Arming an entire school staff is just not a financially viable plan, considering here in the US damn near every school has a tight budget. Plus, there is no guarantee that arming teachers would do anything, what is guaranteed is that you'd create more chaos and potentially more victims.
Plus, what happens if a student gets hold of one of the guns?
One of my friends is a teacher, and her students are mainly from poor, low-income households, many with gang connections. Some of their parents have gotten their kids involved in gang activities, and do we really need a kid with connections to a gang finding a firearm in his classroom?
What if our next mass shooter is one of our woefully unappreciated, highly stressed out teachers?
Then they'll be saying that we shouldn't have guns in the classroom and you're back to square one.

 

[Phasmal]

I'm just going to say, I'm not American. I don't really understand the whole America & guns thing at all, so I may say something wrong on the matter.

But as I understand it, changing people's access to guns is a lot harder to accomplish than burning a house down is?
I mean, even just in this thread you can't get people agreeing on guns.

So, yeah, it's probably not the most useful thing they could be doing. But I kind of understand why they're gonna do it.

 

[JoJo]

It would be better for the people of Newtown to learn from their mistake and provide firearms for their teachers rather then once again rely on useless security measures like video camera's.

Nah, what if the teacher is out of the room when an attack happens, or is slow on the mark and gets shot first? I say provide firearms for the children and watch stranger danger become a thing of the past.

 

[Godhead]

It would be better for the people of Newtown to learn from their mistake and provide firearms for their teachers rather then once again rely on useless security measures like video camera's.

Nah, what if the teacher is out of the room when an attack happens, or is slow on the mark and gets shot first? I say provide firearms for the children and watch stranger danger become a thing of the past.

What happens if the kids forget how to turn the safety off? Your idea will never work. No what we need is to fingerprint ID all the children to their parents and their school faculty, so if anybody touches them who isn't them has the child blow up in their face. It's foolproof.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

I can understand destroying his house, who is going to want to live there, beyond people you don't want as neighbours?

I wouldn't care about a house's history. I don't believe in the supernatural, or bad energy, or anything else like that so a building is a building to me, doesn't really matter what happened there. If I liked a house and I could get it cheap because a psychopath lived there I would absolutely take it.

My thoughts exactly. Fuck yeah, cheap house!

 

[JoJo]

It would be better for the people of Newtown to learn from their mistake and provide firearms for their teachers rather then once again rely on useless security measures like video camera's.

Nah, what if the teacher is out of the room when an attack happens, or is slow on the mark and gets shot first? I say provide firearms for the children and watch stranger danger become a thing of the past.

What happens if the kids forget how to turn the safety off? Your idea will never work. No what we need is to fingerprint ID all the children to their parents and their school faculty, so if anybody touches them who isn't them has the child blow up in their face. It's foolproof.

True, but you don't need to touch a kid to shoot them right? What we need is an automatic scanning system that recognises faces of the pupils, parents and teachers and if anyone unlicensed enters the school, the building instantaneously self-destructs using heavy explosives. It's the only way to be sure!