A-D. said:
I dont count a DLC as a stand-alone Game. Its merely the same Game at this Point. Just because you blow up two Bases does not make it any more meaningful, especially considering that only the Mobile Crawler thing got hit by a Nuke.
And no Liberty Prime doesnt count, thats Bethesda doing "You know what? lets put optimus prime in there, but rename him and make him throw nukes and shit". At least thats what i think they were thinking. Or they were stoned as they made that part.
Raven Rock is entirely optional. You do not have to "kill" Eden, the Brotherhood does it later anyway. Which just proves how inferior the Enclave is when the Brotherhood, who was in F2 literally afraid of them and their massively advanced Technology (and mind you, they had all T51b not the T45d) and now the Brotherhood is capable of destroying their Mainbase AND a mobile Crawler? Really? Sorry, but Deus Ex Machine and Clean Water do not make up for inferior Numbers, inferior Training and inferior Equipment. The Enclave was still big enough to scare the Brotherhood at the time of F3.
And as i stated before, the Enclave in F3 is a joke to begin with. Get Fallout 2 with the Restoration Patch, go to Gecko, play with the Intercom, get bumraped by Enclave Vertibird Assault Squad. Or alternatively, try to take on Navarro. So yeah, F3 was phoned in anyway so im not counting their 2 bases being blown up, once in a DLC no less ;P