Next Gen Console vs This Gen PC graphics

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Bad Jim

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Ultratwinkie said:
That's your problem. Laptops are never meant for gaming.

Even when they are, they are incredibly expensive and lack the power of a true rig. Unless you are gaming on a desktop, you might as well not even bother.
Hey I game on a laptop. It has a Geforce 300M GPU. It was, indeed, rather expensive when I bought it. And it is, indeed, a lot less powerful than any desktop I might have purchased for the same money. However, it does run 99% of games nicely, the only exception I can think of being GTA4 which is known to be horribly optimised.

maxmanrules said:
I have read some stuff about quantum computers, but it was a couple of years ago in the NZ PC World magazine. They had a working one, but data storage was only 75% accurate or something, so it was practically useless.
They've performed quantum computations using absurdly complicated arrangements. They're nowhere near a general purpose quantum computer. They're not even anywhere near computations large enough to be useful. The main catch is that information about the internal state of the device cannot leak into the outside world or the computation is ruined.

The other, more significant catch for gaming is that it only speeds up tasks for which an efficient quantum algorithm is known. It's not some magic thing that will give you a million frames per second in Crysis. Useful quantum algorithms rely on manipulating a small dataset in conventionally impossible ways to get an answer that could not be efficiently found with a conventional computer. But current rendering techniques are already quite efficient considering the amount of data involved.
 

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Bad Jim said:
They've performed quantum computations using absurdly complicated arrangements.
Enhhh... sort of depends on your definition of 'absurdly complicated'...


They're nowhere near a general purpose quantum computer. They're not even anywhere near computations large enough to be useful.
Yeah, Quantum Computing is still in the stage of being proved as a viable concept. The people working on it now are pretty much at the same place as Babbage was with mechanical calculation and Turing was with general computing - figuring out the fundamentals everything else will be built on.
 

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The only reason modern games can even run on the current console gen is because there is no variance in the hardware (and pretty much all AAA games are written with console in mind, and then lazily ported to pc), modern pc's on the other hand are what? 5 to 30 times more powerful depending on the specification of the machine, but games on pc require more powerful hardware because they are written for universal interfaces such as DirectX which can then tell the graphics card what it needs to do, this takes more time so you need more power so the user can't tell the difference.

Although the way NVIDIA have been churning out beta drivers for the 600 series lately I've seen boosts from 15% to 40% in the latest games. As to your question computer hardware is already more powerful than the next gen, and possibly the gen after that too, as soon as a piece of computer hardware goes into production it's already out of date, computer hardware is constantly advanced (you just don't see these advancements till they go into production). Anyone who thinks the next gen is equal in terms of power to a current modern gaming computer, hell even a "gaming" laptop is delusional.
 

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Bad Jim said:
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Interesting.
So what I'm hearing is we need GPUs that contain a duo, conventional processor and quantum processor, once all the issues get sorted out, and they produce some swanky algorithms for it.
 

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CyanideSandwich said:
High-end gaming PCs cost thousands of dollars, whereas consoles only cost a couple of hundred. When it comes to graphics, which I'm not that big on anyway (I play Minecraft and Hotline Miami, so I clearly don't care), I would prefer the much cheaper option.
High end enough to play modern games on high settings will cost about 2 grand NZD, so a bit less in USD. You only need to spend thousands if you are doing some heavy duty rendering or actually trying to CREATE a game.
 
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The next gen consoles with still be less powerful then this gen PCs. Even the gaming grade cards of last gen (HD 6000 and GTX 500) are way more powerful. If you built an $1000 PC right now you would blow next gen out of the water.