Next Metal Gear Solid May Be Too Controversial to Release

[antigodoflife]

Ground Zeroes = 9/11 reference?

No, Ground Zero is a term for a point of origin of something devastating. For example, the Ground Zeroes for the atomic bomb are Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan.

 

[Innegativeion]

Well, I'm certainly glad he has the right spirit at least, even for a content creator as successful as himself.

On the other hand, I don't totally agree with him that video games haven't/aren't tackling mature themes, but whatever. A focus on creativity over safety is almost always a good thing.

 

[Little Gray]

This can go two ways:
1) It's a deep, affecting, mature story that deals with heavy themes and is better than most other medium's take on the subjects due to using the inherent interactivity of games to it's advantage, like Spec Ops.
2) It's a twisted, convoluted, pretentious mess of poor story and odd gameplay that makes WH40K look like Kirby and features too many over-the-top or intetionlly silly moments to be taken seriously.
Either way, idiot fans are gonna ***** about the lack of Snake, unless this is a prequel that involves Snake, which I highly doubt. Personally, though I've never actually play a Metal Gear game (flame me all you like) I really hope Hideo pulls it off. I'm a sucker for a good story.

You play as Big Boss who is the original snake so the fans shouldnt complain about the lack of Solid Snake. It takes place almost directly after peace walker which was the psp game and was in the mgs collection for 360 and ps3.

Although I appreciate the fact that someone is willing to take the "creativity over profitability" stance, it's got to be a hell of a lot easier to make when you've got the kind of brand recognition that Metal Gear does. I can't believe that this is apparently coming out later this year being that this is the first I've heard of it.

Its not really surprising that you have not heard about it. They released a single 15 minute gameplay/trailer several months back and that is it. I think it was at the mgs 25th anniversary or something like that.

 

[BrotherRool]

Ground Zeroes = 9/11 reference?

No, Ground Zero is a term for a point of origin of something devastating. For example, the Ground Zeroes for the atomic bomb are Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan.

Cheers! That makes a lot more sense with the time frame its set in to

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

Oh yeah, the old Crawford-Kojima-Cage-Yohalem waltz of video game depth.

Self-centered Developer: VIDEO GAMES ARE TOO SCARED OF MATURE THEMES. BEHOLD MY VIDEOGAME ABOUT SEXISM/RACISM/RAPE/CHILD SOLDIERS/POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER/SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM COLLAPSE IN WHICH I PUSH ALL OF THE BOUNDARIES
Serious Gamers: Wow, I've been waiting for a game that deals with these serious themes in a sensible manner for ages! Maybe this will finally be a big game that's also smart:
Game: *sounds of farting*
Serious Gamers: This is horrible. For a theme that they claimed was the driving force behind the game's entire concept, their research on it seems to have consisted on asking an intoxicated college hippie what they thought of it. There's not a single conclusion the game leads to that hasn't been made, rebutted and recreated by everyone who is familiar with this subject to any degree higher than 'read a book about it once'.
Self-centered Developer: OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE TOO AFRAID OF MY SERIOUS THEMES, ONCE AGAIN MY GENIUS REMAINS UNAPPRECIATED BY THE UNWASHED MASSES

Because what we as gamers need is intellectual elitism. That'll really advance the medium when we scoff at any attempt to address complicated topics as being poorly done because the writers of videogames cant trump academic study. Seriously though, in a medium where "that ones red, I must shoot it because I'm blue" do we really need to lay into the folks that try?

OT: I doubt it'll be too controversial to release, like everyones pointed, having MGS on the box guarantees sales
Hopefully gameplay'll be good too. Kojima. You're remembering its a GAME this time right, Kojima?

 

[Xarathox]

Some of his concerns over these "taboos" are probably normal everyday subject matter for western audiences. Then again, he's probably just straight up lying to drum up interest, since that's the only tactic he's used since MGS2.

Somebody has not seen the phantom pain trailer ;p

Well, I just did. Didn't even know about it(I don't follow the industry much anymore). Looks interesting, but I fail to see what it has to do with my previous comment?

 

[aba1]

Some of his concerns over these "taboos" are probably normal everyday subject matter for western audiences. Then again, he's probably just straight up lying to drum up interest, since that's the only tactic he's used since MGS2.

Somebody has not seen the phantom pain trailer ;p

Well, I just did. Didn't even know about it(I don't follow the industry much anymore). Looks interesting, but I fail to see what it has to do with my previous comment?

You were saying Hideo only advertises one way and this whole trailer is giant easter egg to the point literally nothing in it says it is even a metal gear solid game at all even the company just sprung up out of the ground. I would say the trailer is a very unique way of sturing up interest especially since it hides any relation to mgs at all.

 

[gigastar]

Ground Zeroes = 9/11 reference?

Nah you can get away with referencing 9/11 now, not like in MGS2 when they had to edit out the Arsenal Gear ramming into Manhattan for it.

Nazis, however...

 

[IronMit]

ok....MGS...even more 'mature' then usual ...and thinking of western politics and controversial subjects;

Child soldiers

Killing children

Rape/incest

False flag terrorisim plotline

PLaying as Big Boss who officially becomes a terrorist

Attacking the US

Weird moment in MGS2; Otacan left home because his dad killed himself because Otacon boned his step mum

weird moment in MGS3; Snake; she was like my mother and my master. Eva: your lover? . Me?!?!!?! wtf!!

 

[Xarathox]

Some of his concerns over these "taboos" are probably normal everyday subject matter for western audiences. Then again, he's probably just straight up lying to drum up interest, since that's the only tactic he's used since MGS2.

Somebody has not seen the phantom pain trailer ;p

Well, I just did. Didn't even know about it(I don't follow the industry much anymore). Looks interesting, but I fail to see what it has to do with my previous comment?

You were saying Hideo only advertises one way and this whole trailer is giant easter egg to the point literally nothing in it says it is even a metal gear solid game at all even the company just sprung up out of the ground. I would say the trailer is a very unique way of sturing up interest especially since it hides any relation to mgs at all.

True I suppose. It is an interesting trailer.

He's still a liar.

 

[aba1]

Some of his concerns over these "taboos" are probably normal everyday subject matter for western audiences. Then again, he's probably just straight up lying to drum up interest, since that's the only tactic he's used since MGS2.

Somebody has not seen the phantom pain trailer ;p

Well, I just did. Didn't even know about it(I don't follow the industry much anymore). Looks interesting, but I fail to see what it has to do with my previous comment?

You were saying Hideo only advertises one way and this whole trailer is giant easter egg to the point literally nothing in it says it is even a metal gear solid game at all even the company just sprung up out of the ground. I would say the trailer is a very unique way of sturing up interest especially since it hides any relation to mgs at all.

True I suppose. It is an interesting trailer.

He's still a liar.

lmao ohh you and your convictions XD

 

[mysecondlife]

So, Metal Gear 2 wasn't crossing the line?

Meh, I'll end up quietly buying this game anyways.

 

[scorptatious]

Even though I think he's snooker loopy, I admire him quite a bit. Someone needs to try and do this stuff, even if it's going to be in year-long cutscenes.

...I still loved MGS4 though. I do accept I'm a bit of a Metal Gear fanboy.

Same here. While I'll admit, MGS4 has some LOOOOOOONG cutscenes, that didn't ruin the overall experience for me.

OT: I have yet to play Rising. Perhaps I'll get around to it eventually, but for now, I'm looking forward to Ground Zeroes.

Torture done by protagonists 5:2

Considering that there's a torture sequence in nearly every Metal Gear Solid game, it would be pretty interesting to see the tables turn in Snake's favor. Not sure how one would handle something like that though.

 

[weirdee]

I'm pretty sure that he's doing this so that they stop forcing him to make more metal gear solid games.

 

[Yopaz]

All I want to know is if I actually get to play the game at some point rather than watch it.

 

[Sylveria]

Moral of the story, GO BUY METAL GEAR RISING, it's fucking amazing.