Concussion probably. That's what happened to Benoit, had a brain of a Alzheimer patient when he killed his wife and kid.chadachada123 said:
Just like Benoit, guy doesn't get a pass. Doesn't matter who he was, all that matters is what he became.
NFL Player kills girlfriend, then self at practice facilty. Game still set for Sunday.
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Just like Benoit, guy doesn't get a pass. Doesn't matter who he was, all that matters is what he became.
What if the girlfriend was an alcoholic, or a drug abuser, or herself abusive? Or what if it was just a freaking accident? Hell, if the dude was mentally challenged because of injury, did he even have a choice in the matter to begin with?SaneAmongInsane said:
I know that it sounds like I'm bringing absurd "what-ifs" into this. However, I only bring this up because I recently learned that around 30-40% of domestic abuse against adults is against males, and personally know several mothers that abuse pain medication (fathers tend to abuse alcohol, if experience is any indication). I can think of a billion reasons for his actions to be more "tragic" than "evil."
I just think that we should wait longer to see what ACTUALLY went on at home before jumping to conclusions. This is also an invitation for more information on this, if anyone has any.
Apologies, I admit that I didn't finish reading the thread.SaneAmongInsane said:
Anyways, while I very much understand your feelings about this, I disagree that the "big wheels of the machine [kept] turning with pure indifference". The tragedy was very much acknowledged, and then life continued as it always does when there is tragedy. As sad as it is, life does not stop just because something bad happened, and it will keep moving forward even if you don't.
It was terrible that this happened but I can see why they decided to play seeing how much of a pain in the ass it would have been to postpone a game with all the fans who would have had to be refunded, the stadium staff that wouldn't have worked etc etc. Also I was shocked that the Chiefs were able to win since I thought the team wouldn't be able to concentrate after someone they were probably very close to did something like this.
Ah, I was wondering if this would show up. The front page of the Kansas City Star had two stories about this. Apparently, they are saying this was probly domestic abuse gone mad because friends of the player and his girlfriend said that arguing was common in thier house, and it could be heard down the street even (although, I dont exactly agree with what another article said where the guy who wrote it called the player a "monster, and for killing himself, a coward.")
Well that's sad, I wonder what could have caused him to just snap like that?
I don't really see why they should cancel the football game though, after all, cynical as it may sound there are people other than just him involved in the game. The opposing team would probably be somewhat upset if they decided to cancel for this reason, the fans and ticket holders might be somewhat off put too, plus both the city and the NFL have a lot of money invested in this, and they probably can't afford to put the game off.
I do feel bad for the poor girl and her family though. What a tragic loss. I hope everything works out alright for the kid.
I don't really see why they should cancel the football game though, after all, cynical as it may sound there are people other than just him involved in the game. The opposing team would probably be somewhat upset if they decided to cancel for this reason, the fans and ticket holders might be somewhat off put too, plus both the city and the NFL have a lot of money invested in this, and they probably can't afford to put the game off.
I do feel bad for the poor girl and her family though. What a tragic loss. I hope everything works out alright for the kid.
That sounds best to me.Apollo45 said:
Cancelling one game alone, would have several repercussions not just for the Chiefs, but for the Panthers (who they were scheduled to play) and the entire NFL and the fans, if one team cancels their season, then the entire league must do so as well,
No, going on with the game was the best thing to do.
And by the way, this incident brought the Chief's organization closer together and god forbid they actually played like a professional team getting their second win this season (2-10)
God Bless the NFL.
No, going on with the game was the best thing to do.
And by the way, this incident brought the Chief's organization closer together and god forbid they actually played like a professional team getting their second win this season (2-10)
God Bless the NFL.
Lots of women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends, most of them aren't gold-diggers.Signa said:
A lot of people have trouble leaving an abusive relationship, just walking away isn't so simple (especially when there's kids involved).
Also, the most likely time for a woman to be murdered by an abusive husband or boyfriend is when she tries to leave him.
No interest in NFL.
Just bored enough to read this thread.
And then go "Man, lot of hate towards people who kill themselves. Seriously. Oh well, I guess he did murder his wife which is pretty bad. Murder suicides are bad."
But still.
He is a murderer, true. Coward? Hmmm. Victim? Most certainly.
People do not just randomly shoot their wives, drive to work, talk to some collegues and then put a bullet through their skulls. It is not a normal thing to do. It is the kind of thing someone does after life has broken down, when they have poor mental health, shit like that. So yes, He is a victim. He is a victim of the system that failed him.
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
Essentially what I am trying to point out is that this man is a victim. Less so than his wife, and possibly to a degree the child he left behind, but he is undeniably a victim. We are involved in mankind, we are mankind, this man died because of some failing. Because of a friend not noticing something, one of those teammates not noticing something, hell, could be any myriad of things. Sounds like he needed a psych and probably some relationship counselling.
Sorry, I just hate it when people flip out and insult those who end up taking their own lives. It is tragic, it should be left at that.
Just bored enough to read this thread.
And then go "Man, lot of hate towards people who kill themselves. Seriously. Oh well, I guess he did murder his wife which is pretty bad. Murder suicides are bad."
But still.
See, things like this.Akalabeth said:
He is a murderer, true. Coward? Hmmm. Victim? Most certainly.
People do not just randomly shoot their wives, drive to work, talk to some collegues and then put a bullet through their skulls. It is not a normal thing to do. It is the kind of thing someone does after life has broken down, when they have poor mental health, shit like that. So yes, He is a victim. He is a victim of the system that failed him.
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
Essentially what I am trying to point out is that this man is a victim. Less so than his wife, and possibly to a degree the child he left behind, but he is undeniably a victim. We are involved in mankind, we are mankind, this man died because of some failing. Because of a friend not noticing something, one of those teammates not noticing something, hell, could be any myriad of things. Sounds like he needed a psych and probably some relationship counselling.
Sorry, I just hate it when people flip out and insult those who end up taking their own lives. It is tragic, it should be left at that.
They did, they had a moment of silence for victims of domestic violence before the game.Fappy said:
You should look up domestic abuse some more. Because quite frankly, I don't see how someone as uninformed about domestic abuse as you are has seen patterns.Signa said:
1.) There's a kid involved. She could be trying to protect her child (Which is not unheard of). Or, she might feel that she is obligated to stay with him because of the child.
2.) Battered person syndrome. Domestic abuse victims are not rational. Indeed, they are the opposite. They often form attachments to their abuser, to the point of defending their actions. There's a good reason behind the trope of "I walked into a door.". Look it up, this is serious business.
The assumption that "She's probably a "Gold-digger"." is frankly misogynist and uninformed. It betrays a lack of research into domestic abuse, and a base assumption about a character unknown based on her relationship with a successful person. And even if she was a "Gold-digger", then that'd be his problem to deal with, and his choice to have relations with her, and is completely unrelated to his decision to, you know, murder her. Whether you, or anyone else, feels that people will die alone, or the like, doesn't really impact the fact that most people, even the vilest, have deep personal relationships, even if they lack a "Winning personality".
So, what's more important America? Your NFL schedule or recognizing that a massive tragedy has occurred a fortnight before the game?
Personally I think the game should have be rescheduled out of respect for the family of the deceased, the team who don't feel at all like playing football and the fans who probably were disappointed with the playing of the team.
That's my opinion. Football players are human too.
Edited a minor mistake.
Personally I think the game should have be rescheduled out of respect for the family of the deceased, the team who don't feel at all like playing football and the fans who probably were disappointed with the playing of the team.
That's my opinion. Football players are human too.
Edited a minor mistake.