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Lilikins

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Ok now that I have your attention,

my pardons hehe, wouldve loved to post but just got done moving and finally have bloody interent..(Im human again....or something..)

Nevertheless, I was stuck to newspapers, local gossip, news on the telly....(BAHAHA..that was a joke....ah-hem : o)

but to go to the theme of this forum and ppl's insights. I saw 'numerous' things about domestic violence, for both genders mind you. Soooo after seeing all these things I sorta 'wandered' off in my brain, about everything.

(ok this is the part of the forum you should be paying attention to, tyvm.)

Nickleback-Never Again

For some reason, this is the only song about domestic violence, that I can personally think of at the moment that deals with that subject in a manner where the... ehh... Ill say 'outbreaks' are described in a good manner.

Just wished to see if folks maybe feel the same about that sensitive subject and as always, please stay formal and polite in my posts, Id be very thankful hehe:)

Lil
 

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DID SOMEONE SAY NICKELBACK?



Honestly I think they play the worst Nickelback songs on the radio. Their other ones aren't so bad! ...Maybe!

I like them anyway.

Yeah I guess I don't know many songs about domestic violence either. "Never Again" does kind of tell a story. I'm gonna go listen to it again since I haven't heard it in a while.

I'm glad it manages to describe how bad it is though.
 

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Lilikins said:
For some reason, this is the only song about domestic violence, that I can personally think of at the moment that deals with that subject in a manner where the... ehh... Ill say 'outbreaks' are described in a good manner.
Should domestic violence really be "described in a good manner"?
These things are often quite awful and trying to make the descriptions of it more pleasant is, in my opinion, kind of missing the point, as well as rude to the victims, because they didn't get to experience that pleasant "good mannered" version.
 

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There are many many many worse bands. I don't understand the hate that Nickelback gets, they got my respect for their Dimebag Darrel tribute song.
 

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Eh, I dislike Nickelback, like most people, but it's not for personal reasons. The only thing worse then nickelback... is people who won't shut up about hating nickelback. Lord, it's just a band, it's not like they shot your cat or something (and if they did then they did you a favor). Now, limp bizkit on the other hand...

Anyway, I haven't heard the song, but good on them for addressing the issue. They had another one called Edge of Revolution that was pretty badass. After they criticized the NSA my respect increased about a thousand percent. Now I tell people to leave them alone.
 

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I have doubts Nickelback would be able to cover such a subject with the appropriate grace. Too many cheap and shallow and safe tunes to ever give them a chance with something more delicate in terms of song subjects. There's nothing they could say that hasn't been said elsewhere, and there obviously isn't anything they can play that won't be played better...almost anywhere else.


I think this is a pretty good song centered around domestic violence and abusive relationships (at least, it's the interpretation I get out of it). To offer another example.
 

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Eh. I prefer happy songs. If music can influence emotion, then happy is the emotion i want to have. I almost never listen to sad/depressing songs.

Everything is awsome!
 

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HardkorSB said:
Lilikins said:
For some reason, this is the only song about domestic violence, that I can personally think of at the moment that deals with that subject in a manner where the... ehh... Ill say 'outbreaks' are described in a good manner.
Should domestic violence really be "described in a good manner"?
These things are often quite awful and trying to make the descriptions of it more pleasant is, in my opinion, kind of missing the point, as well as rude to the victims, because they didn't get to experience that pleasant "good mannered" version.
That kind of caught me too, but I think what he means is that they're described well, not that they're described positively.
 

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Lilikins said:
Nickleback-Never Again
My dad's dad used to beat my grandmother.

He, my dad, happens to really like that song. Not so much in a 'I like it and it makes me feel good' way but in a 'this reminds me of the past and does a good job of expressing the anger I felt and still feel' kind of way.

I like the song too...and I will admit to enjoying Nickelback.

I also unironically enjoy Creed.
 

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Have you guys even heard of Defeater? All their albums are about an abusive family.

Or The Plot In You?
 

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I like this song, the lyrics are a bit... weird. Not sure if it's jokey or serious.

There's probably more but that's all I can think of.
 

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I'm actually a bit surprised that Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - "Face Down" hasn't been mentioned yet, since that is always the first song that I think of when domestic violence is brought up.


Good at giving me shivers, back when it was on the radio often.
 

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chadachada123 said:
I'm actually a bit surprised that Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - "Face Down" hasn't been mentioned yet, since that is always the first song that I think of when domestic violence is brought up.


Good at giving me shivers, back when it was on the radio often.
It was some kind of big deal when it came out, but honestly that song is really really cheesy early mid-2000's post-hardcore.
 

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Eminem. He plays the role of the abuser in this song, and it is just as terrifying as being in one.
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EeveeElectro said:

I like this song, the lyrics are a bit... weird. Not sure if it's jokey or serious.

There's probably more but that's all I can think of.
I actually read an interview about this one... apparently, this was inspired by a couple Florence knew who were forever at each other's throats and argued over everything, forever fighting (never physically)... yet were also totally head-over-heels for each other. Which I think adds a couple weird dimensions to the conversation.

OT: No mention of "Love The Way You Lie"? It's all about domestic abuse that never quite breaks it off.

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"I'm not gonna lie, if she ever tries to leave again/
I'mma tie her to the bed and set this f***ing house on fire/
Just gonna stand there and watch me burn?/
That's all right, because I like the way it hurts"

That's some pretty screwed up lyrics right there, made even moreso by having it sung by Rihanna in the "Freshly Post Chris Brown" days.
 

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I can't help but feel distrust at the song in general. Having to live in a cycle of violence and constant state of being victimized in your own home is something that no one should ever have to experience; but I think the way the subject matter in this case is a little disingenuous, almost like he's pulling his punches with those lyrics.

I guess what I'm getting to is that there's plenty of music which does approach the subject of violence and subjugation in the home in a far more eloquent way, and more importantly from a woman's perspective (which is the exact situation the nickleback song is describing. Don't be misled though, anyone can be a victim of domestic abuse and it's not always physical).

Here's one song that popped into my head that I thoroughly enjoy.


That track doesn't just describe anger toward the attacker from a bystander and a man's point of view, but it's a really thoughtful and courageous back and forth between a man and a woman, regarding dignity and mutual respect.
 

das_n00b

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oh! I forgot to mention: violence is impossible to describe or address in an honest manner which doesn't immediately cause a sense of difficulty. It all has to do with oppression :)