Ninja Theory: Devil May Cry Skeptics "Secretly Want to Like It"

[Subject7]

(waves hand) You WILL love Devil May Cry.

 

[Undeadpool]

Remember everyone: Graphics and appearances are secondary to storytelling and gameplay...until it's a character whose appearance you care about.

 

[Salad Is Murder]

Remember everyone: Graphics and appearances are secondary to storytelling and gameplay...until it's a character whose appearance you care about.

Yeah, those are qualities I've always looked for in Capcom games. PFft, bwahahaha, I couldn't do it...I couldn't say it with a straight face.

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OONTS
OONTS
OONTS

 

[Negatempest]

DMC1 was good, DMC2 sucked, DMC3 was good, DMC4 sucked. Yeah, DMC has a "great" track record of games while keeping it with Capcom....

The story, we know little of, Dante in the game we know little of, the gameplay we are getting some bits and pieces here and there. Who the main enemy is...I don't know.

So, with extremely little to no "real" information on DMC: Devil May Cry, "fans" are already condemning it. Haven't seen such a fickle bunch of spectators since the Witch Hunts in North American past.

Condemn the witch, since we have no solid evidence that she is a witch!

 

[cgentero]

The story, we know little of, Dante in the game we know little of, the gameplay we are getting some bits and pieces here and there. Who the main enemy is...I don't know.

So, with extremely little to no "real" information on DMC: Devil May Cry, "fans" are already condemning it. Haven't seen such a fickle bunch of spectators since the Witch Hunts in North American past.

Condemn the witch, since we have no solid evidence that she is a witch!

Dante is now half demon\half angel, NTs own description of Dante is an angry\angsty\rebel teenager, 30fps confirmed, "cinematic" slowdowns during fights, a devil trigger that consists solely of knocking surrounding enemies into the air and going slo mo so you can use them as sandbags, removing styles, awkwardly mapping weapon switching to the D pad, cloning HS power\speed\range stances with Human\Demon\Angel forms.

These are all facts gathered from Capcom\NT releases and behind closed doors previews. The only interesting news is dynamic environment changes and how the world is "alive".

We know so little huh?

 

[DigitalSushi]

Then they are changing actual canon story. Dante's mother was a human, that was the whole reason Sparda took to fighting for the humans in the first place, IT'S THE WHOLE REASON FOR FUCKING DMC. Now NT have come along and said Dante's mother was an Angel .... wait, what? So how would Sparda fit in to fighting for humans, why would Dante give a shit and which moron is writing this crap.

Sparda chose to fight for the human world before he met Eva, you have the canon wrong I'm afraid. This is becoming ever prevalent the longer the DmC is shit arguments go on, it seems people have the wrong end of the stick
http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Sparda

Sparda's activities over the next two thousand years are shrouded in legend, though it is understood that for a time after defeating Mundus, he ruled over the humans before eventually vanishing. Sparda later appeared in the twentieth century where he met and fell in love with a human woman named Eva, who bore him twin sons.

Also, if this is before he became the Dante we now know, where the hell is Virgil. He would still be alive now and as mental as ever unless we're rebooting his whole family and getting rid of his brother ..... the whole reason for DMC 3.

Its a reboot, anything is game, for all we know in this timeline Virgil doesn't exist.

Which will make me sad, I really like playing as Virgil, his cool calm demeanor also appeals to me.

So now lets be honest. This isn't a reboot of Devil May Cry, it's an entirely different game set to sell because it has DMC tagged on to it. They have changed Dante and bastardised the entire fucking story and his family tree. It is not a Devil May Cry game. It's a different game with the same mechanics.

Once again, its a reboot, I've found the internets attitude to DmC somewhat bothersome, the way ignorance has been bandied about as fact, people's thoughts on the canon of Devil May Cry actually contradicting the DMC canon itself.

Firstly people of the internet, Its a reboot, anything is up for grabs. People seem to think that Reboot means something other than what it is.
Secondly, no he doesn't look like the art director, they both have a teardrop fringe/bang, thats it
Thirdly, Ninja Theory did not take Dante and shat over him, in fact Ninja Theory stuck pretty fucking close to Classic Dante until Capcom told them to go crazy(trying to find links to prove my point)
Fourthly!, So far the game is actually pretty close to the originals anyway, The Sparda Sword is there, Summoned Swords/Lucifer is there, Rainstorm.. list goes on
Fifthly!, I'm getting conflicting stories with regards to the canon of Devil May Cry (evident above), as such its quite clear if you people don't know which story is true, then either you haven't invested the time in the Devil May Cry story, or it doesn't matter anyway because everyone has there own version, ergo if your filling in the blanks now, you can fill in the blanks later.
Sixthly, The point of this Reboot was to piss the fans off and get as much attention as possible because DMC4 didn't sell as well as expected, how about trying something different?, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

 

[Negatempest]

The story, we know little of, Dante in the game we know little of, the gameplay we are getting some bits and pieces here and there. Who the main enemy is...I don't know.

So, with extremely little to no "real" information on DMC: Devil May Cry, "fans" are already condemning it. Haven't seen such a fickle bunch of spectators since the Witch Hunts in North American past.

Condemn the witch, since we have no solid evidence that she is a witch!

Dante is now half demon\half angel, NTs own description of Dante is an angry\angsty\rebel teenager, 30fps confirmed, "cinematic" slowdowns during fights, a devil trigger that consists solely of knocking surrounding enemies into the air and going slo mo so you can use them as sandbags, removing styles, awkwardly mapping weapon switching to the D pad, cloning HS power\speed\range stances with Human\Demon\Angel forms.

These are all facts gathered from Capcom\NT releases and behind closed doors previews. The only interesting news is dynamic environment changes and how the world is "alive".

We know so little huh?

Yes, thats still just a fraction though, basically the tip of the iceberg. Angry/Angsty can still mean anything. Cartman from south park is angry and angsty. Bart Simpson is angry and angsty. Kamina fits the bill of an angry and rebellious teenager. There are MANY ways you can go with angry and rebellious.

The "amount" of slowdown is unknown. Enslaved had the slowdown, but only during short but satisfying moments. Enemies in DMC were nearly always used as sandbags.

And information behind closed doors....really? I'm not saying that the information is wrong, just that information behind closed doors tends to be....minimal at best.

 

[cgentero]

Yes, thats still just a fraction though, basically the tip of the iceberg.

There is more I didn't mention

Angry/Angsty can still mean anything. Cartman from south park is angry and angsty. Bart Simpson is angry and angsty. Kamina fits the bill of an angry and rebellious teenager. There are MANY ways you can go with angry and rebellious.

Here is a quote for you.

"Ninja Theory creative director Tameem Antoniades, who was playing and explaining how the game works along with other staff members, really wanted to remark how Dante's really upset with the world: he doesn't have a job, and he feels like he has no future. Just like most angsty teenagers nowadays."

The "amount" of slowdown is unknown. Enslaved had the slowdown, but only during short but satisfying moments. Enemies in DMC were nearly always used as sandbags.

In the Gamescom trailer it goes slo mo and cinematic while enemies are still around, this worries me. Also on Dante Must Die enemies were constantly attacking and moving but the new devil trigger is a mechanic devoted to the ultimate sandbag experience.

And information behind closed doors....really? I'm not saying that the information is wrong, just that information behind closed doors tends to be....minimal at best.

Multiple professional game sites are untrustworthy? it was only not shown to the public.

 

[Arkynomicon]

Loved DMC1 and DMC3.

DMC2 is kinda forgettable so I didn't mind it that much but the 4th game was such a switch of tone and it constantly made me Cringe whenever Dante showed up to act like Neros embarrassing uncle. Then there is also the fact that Nero was incredibly boring too and the only worthwhile thing about him was his hand. DMC4 was also just way to shiny and polished looking compared to previous more gritty looking instalments.

So yeah, I kinda hated DMC4.

My only worry at the time is that the combat wont be very interesting.

 

[Pandabearparade]

Well, the odds of my buying this went from pretty good to 0%. Good job, sir.

 

[Julianking93]

The only DMC with a serious Dante was 2, and it seems everyone but me hated that game. Then again, Dante did have one or two truly badass lines in that game.

Eh, I don't really know. The look doesn't matter to me at all, DMC has always been about keeping shit in the air for more than twenty seconds and changing weapons at the speed of light. I'll give this game a chance.

Actually, if you read one of my later posts, you'll see I mentioned just that. DMC2 (the one everyone hated) was hated because of Dante's shift in personality from goofy to serious and the environments changed from detailed to spacious. From the trailers, it seems NT is copying directly from those aspects that were hated. Like they're deliberately trying to piss people off.

Now, I didn't hate DMC2. At all, in fact. I quite enjoyed it. Not as much as the first but I thought it was fun. However, even then, I recognised that it was a fair bit inferior to the others so NT going back to making the same mistakes just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Like I posted before with the 2 promo pics, I'm open to this game. I had raised hopes a bit with an older trailer showing white-haired Dante but I'm still on the fence about it.

 

[Genixma]

A few people are going to rent it go to give it a try even if they hate it with every fiber of their being.

 

[swarm312]

I decided to sign up to this site so I could chime in with my opinion,and I have to say that I like that it's getting much more civil compared to last year(as it usually does with changes like these). While there still are quite a few raging fanboys, most of them have been replaced by skeptics, which is great. I would just like to say that I've been a supporter of this reboot since I first saw the initial trailer. Seeing the new trailer, I think that Dante looks awesome in motion and the combat looks very promising. I'm hoping that this is the first action game since the first God of War where I can enjoy the combat, all while being blown away by the story. Anyway, I have a question for the people that hate Dante's new origin; is there a reason you hate the son of an angle and demon concept other than 'it messes up the canon', I read nearly every comment and I've seen people call in lazy and cliche. Can you explain why?(I'm not trying to be sarcastic, by the way). The Demon falling in love with a human seems far more cliche to me, especially since if ten years ago someone had told me that they were making a game with a cocky half demon, who's: dressed in red, has white hair, carries a giant sword that was passed on to him by his father, and has an slightly evil, stoic brother(also white haired), who carries a katana that was also given to him by his father. I would say, "why are they making a Inuyasha game?".

Once again, I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm just giving my opinion. I understand that fans are worried about something they hold dear possibly getting messed up. But, again, this is a game that's trying to take a mature approach into what made Dante... well, Dante and most of us don't have the same personality we had as a teenage as we do now. Hell, from 17 and up I've gone through anorexia, depression, and a crisis of faith. So, as you can guess, I'm not the same now as I was when I was in high school and I doubt that Dante will be too.

 

[Salad Is Murder]

If you don't like it. Don't buy it.
It's pretty simple

After what Lucas did to the Star Wars movies anything ANYONE does to a franchise will be tame by comparison.

You know that's not true, the rogering that Sonic's been getting from Sonic Team for the last, what 20 years, was definitely worse than Lucas's new 'vision'.

 

[JdaS]

Heheheh. I think Tameem secretly wants to suck my ass. I love how this fucking hipster strolls on the scene and makes Dante "cooler" by plastering his own face on the character, sticking a smoke in his mouth (lung cancer is so 2011) and making him listen to the same shitty faux-punk he does (Sex Pistols? Wander into heavy traffic you dipshit).

That and Capcom for giving one of their most enjoyable franchises to this sorry bunch. You can talk all you want about the whole consumer/developer relationship, bottom line is: you want to peddle your Mary Sue fantasies to me in the for of a new IP? Go ahead! I'll buy it if it's good enough. Just don't do it under the guise of my all time favorite game series.

 

[DirgeNovak]

Dante in the first four games was cool, but he had about as much depth a glass of water. A Devil May Cry game with actual good writing can only be a plus, and a reboot is basically the only way to achieve that.

And combat looks great so far. Seriously, what is everybody complaining about? Dante's hair color? Yeah, that's a VITAL part of the game.

 

[FuktLogik]

First, Dante now looks like an overly emo, wrist slashing twat waffle. Second, the gameplay they've shown so far looks disjointed. It does not flow properly. Also, 30fps in a twitch based game? Fuck off, Ninja Theory.

Since they lack the skills to make a fun game, they should go into the movie business, or since their stories contain unparalleled levels of angst, maybe the anime business.