Ninja Theory: Devil May Cry Skeptics "Secretly Want to Like It"

[Ciledog]

Of course we want to like it, it's fucking Devil May Cry. But we can't because the ****** would rather be LOLSOEDGY and shit on everything.


EVERYTHING.

 

[xdiesp]

"Spilling over with writing talent such as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved" was supposed to be irony, I hope.

 

[FuzzyRaccoon]

I think that that people not to stop being so annoying about this. I've always liked this guy more than the original Dante. He looks... like an actual person now, not some weird anime character that wouldn't exist in real life. And the original Dante always had these overly flamboyant moves... kind of like Bayonetta. Here's hoping that ridiculousness is gone in this iteration.

I do wish this one didn't smoke. It's kind of a dumb ploy to make him cool and edgy.

 

[FuzzyRaccoon]

That and Capcom for giving one of their most enjoyable franchises to this sorry bunch. You can talk all you want about the whole consumer/developer relationship, bottom line is: you want to peddle your Mary Sue fantasies to me in the for of a new IP? Go ahead! I'll buy it if it's good enough. Just don't do it under the guise of my all time favorite game series.

Waaaaaaait. Wait. What? So... the orignal Dante isn't a Mary Sue? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Did you even stop to think about that for a second?
I'm not saying this new guy is perfect or anything, but you need to stop looking at this beloved series of yours with your rose-colored glasses.

Dante has always pretty much been a Mary Sue.

 

[JdaS]

Waaaaaaait. Wait. What? So... the orignal Dante isn't a Mary Sue? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Did you even stop to think about that for a second?
I'm not saying this new guy is perfect or anything, but you need to stop looking at this beloved series of yours with your rose-colored glasses.

Dante has always pretty much been a Mary Sue.

I was referring to the way Tameem pretty much put himself in the protagonist's boots. The orginal Dante was obviously over the top, flamboyant and even cheesy, but at least he was an original character that Hideki Kamiya came up with.

Fact of the matter is that this new Dante just seems to be some dreamworld version of Tameem or something.

I wouldn't even say that I have any rose-colored glasses on when it comes to the series. Even less when it comes to Dante. What pissed me off the most was to have the smug sonovabitch tell me that I hate it because I want to like it.

"Spilling over with writing talent such as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved" was supposed to be irony, I hope.

Also, this. Made better by the fact that it's contrasted with one cheesy line uttered by one hammy voice actor.

 

[Zefar]

Didn't Ninja theory mess up the character of Samus Aran as well? As in, turning a brave mercenary woman into a girl who would do anything her boyfriend asked of her. Not to mention she showed fear to a monster she meet before.

So do you really trust them with the character design of Dante? When they mess up the basic characteristics of Samus Aran?

I don't and seeing some people opinions on the story in Heavenly Sword I can only assume they ain't gonna do much good.

I didn't really find the story in DMC series that bad. Ok, I played the third and fourth but not the first ones. I do however got a friend to tell me all about it and he have done so.

 

[Arkynomicon]

Waaaaaaait. Wait. What? So... the orignal Dante isn't a Mary Sue? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Did you even stop to think about that for a second?
I'm not saying this new guy is perfect or anything, but you need to stop looking at this beloved series of yours with your rose-colored glasses.

Dante has always pretty much been a Mary Sue.

I was referring to the way Tameem pretty much put himself in the protagonist's boots. The orginal Dante was obviously over the top, flamboyant and even cheesy, but at least he was an original character that Hideki Kamiya came up with.

Fact of the matter is that this new Dante just seems to be some dreamworld version of Tameem or something.

I wouldn't even say that I have any rose-colored glasses on when it comes to the series. Even less when it comes to Dante. What pissed me off the most was to have the smug sonovabitch tell me that I hate it because I want to like it.

"Spilling over with writing talent such as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved" was supposed to be irony, I hope.

Also, this. Made better by the fact that it's contrasted with one cheesy line uttered by one hammy voice actor.

Meh, I always called BS on the whole idea that new Dante looks like Tameem mostly because it's a bandwagon argument. I rather like the more gritty down to earth Dante because I'm frankly sick of the old one. Also, smoking does make you look cool.

Didn't Ninja theory mess up the character of Samus Aran as well? As in, turning a brave mercenary woman into a girl who would do anything her boyfriend asked of her. Not to mention she showed fear to a monster she meet before.

So do you really trust them with the character design of Dante? When they mess up the basic characteristics of Samus Aran?

I don't and seeing some people opinions on the story in Heavenly Sword I can only assume they ain't gonna do much good.

I didn't really find the story in DMC series that bad. Ok, I played the third and fourth but not the first ones. I do however got a friend to tell me all about it and he have done so.

No, that was Team Ninja.

 

[Lunar Templar]

After I heard that Dante's mother was going to be an angel I just said "Screw it! These guys know NOTHING about Devil May Cry!"

Why am I saying this? Let me elaborate. Note how the series is called "Devil May Cry". This is a refrence that in the games, devils do not cry, humans cry. Dante (as in the REAL Dante)considers that his ability to cry makes him him more of a human than demon. He also will not kill any demon who "cries" and or shows signs of being more like a human. If Dante is no longer human at all, then this series cannot be "Devil May Cry". Hell, they might as well it the "Adventures of Captain Scowly Face" for all I care.

I honestly doubt Ninja Theory has seen the ending to Devil May Cry 3...

On an unrelated note, Angels = Good, Demons = Bad... I'm smelling a MORAL CHOICE SYSTEM!!!

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by the holy moon, you'd better be wrong about a moral choice system, its >.> ... 'supposed' to be a devil may cry game, your moral choice should be ' high time -> air juggle with E&I or sword combo -> high time -> air sword combo -> helm splitter -> stinger into the next guy' >.> i mean, that's a rough choice right there

also: why the fuck dose his mom need to be angel now? hows that make things better? not to mention complicates how he came to be >.> ya know, given how demons and angels are around each other

i do in fact WANT to like it, I've enjoyed the other DMC games have since the series started :/ i'm just not seeing much to like about this

i can eventually, forgive the redesign, can not forgive the drop in frame rate given how timing sensitive combat is and the back story revamp is just pointless, change for the sake of change is rarely good

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

"Spilling over with writing talent such as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved" was supposed to be irony, I hope.

what's sad is that it wasn't NT actually doing the writing; HS was written by Rhianna Pratchett (who actually does work in other games) and Enslaved was done by screenwriter Alex Garland. An even then both games were obviously the leftovers of said writers. NT themselves don't have jack-shit in terms of actual writing talent. I'd pick DMC's silliness over NT's pretentiousness any day

 

[Sion_Barzahd]

Personally i hate the new character design, i mean it looks like a butch woman. I hate even more is that this guy, when being outright told that people don't like the new design simply goes "you do like it." i mean so much for the days when a game designer listened to what the audience and fans had to say about a series.

i am a massive fan of the DMC series so i will probably buy this game anyway just to see what Ninja Theory tries to do with dante. I am curious whilst heavily skeptical.

also, this is the first i've actually heard of them cranking down the FPS for the new game. i mean WTH?! The top quality for DMC over other hack'n'slash games is how smooth it felt. Not all clunky like Enslaved felt...
I honestly hope that NT at least reconsider that one choice in the games mechanics since they seem adamant in ditching the previous dante's character design and persona

 

[Char-Nobyl]

Antoniades claimed that the game "will feel like a proper Devil May Cry game when you have a controller in your hand" and that, "The people who are skeptical secretly want to like it. And our job is to prove it's Devil May Cry in essence."

Ugh. And you know what? You're right. Fans do "want to like it." And guess what's stopping them from liking it?

The fact that you changed shit and they don't like it.

They're fans because they like the series. They "want to like it" because it's the newest installment in a series that they like. You only say that someone "want to like" something if they don't like it and regret feeling that way, but that isn't going to make them start liking it.

Ninja Theory seems to think that DMC fans don't like the redesign for the same reason closeted, conservative politicians don't like homosexuals: because they secretly indulge in the thing they claim to hate, and hate themselves for it.

Protip, Ninja Theory: they only "want to like it" because it's a series they love that you look like you're about to cock up.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

"Ninja Theory co-founder, Tameem Antoniades reckons that fans doubting the upcoming Devil May Cry prequel are not being entirely honest with themselves."

This is as Uwe Boll as you can get without actually involving Uwe Boll. Tameem has no fucking idea what he's talking about, at all. People are hating on the new "DmC" because it ISN'T Devil May Cry. It was built on Extreme Combat with emphasis on Style and Rule of Cool, not God of War.

I fucking hate people who pull this; they deserve to rot in a special place in Hell.

I'm just repeating shit I've been told, I can't promise that it's accurate. What I've heard is that the designer and co-founder Tameem Antoniades just made the character look like him.

<spoiler=Image comparison>http://i.screwattack.com/content/images/orig_10439_1_1285149703.jpg

Also that's just Slenderman-level of creepy.

 

[RadioactiveMicrobe]

We don't hate it because it looks like someone swapped out Dante for Edward
We don't hate it because the Unreal Engine looks terrible with this game

We hate it because you took a dump onto our game by turning the protagonist into YOU!

Well, I hate it for those 3 reasons myself,

but really, THAT'S why I will probably hate this game, how can a game made by people this smug be good?

 

[AroLombardi]

I have no real problem with the character other than his hairstyle. His hair color is fine, because I sort of like the whole idea of it changing to white at certain times, it's just he looks like a punk. His clothes and face look alright. Not amazing, but the hairstyle just makes it all look awful.

 

[chinangel]

NO NO NO! YOU LIKE IT BECAUSE I SAY YOU DO!

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really? Is Ninja Theory run by a bunch of 3 year olds?

 

[ckam]

...I just don't really know. Taking liberties with a game series this far is just basically an omen for disaster. I mean, it would be interesting to see Valve or Epic's take on this, but it's all up to Ninja.

 

[Beautiful End]

Well, Ninja Theory, DUH! DERP! DURRRRRRRRRR!

I do wanna like it! I love DMC and this new take on the series with this emo-looking-Edward-sparkly-wannabe-pothead Dante is what is pissing people off! Imagine if Mario suddenly traded his overalls for some sort of emo hairdo, eye liner and...chains and swords. You bet there will be riots on the streets!

And what pisses me off is that there doesn't seem to be any canon reason to do this, and here's why:

-New Dante looks EXACTLY like the developer guy. Coincidence? I think not.
-The original Dante creator (Forgot his name) said that he wanted Dante to be cool but it a nice way, hence why he never smoked or anything like that. Yet, you introduced the pothead Dante that goes completely against what we knew and were used to.
-Dante's hair changes when he goes into Demon/Trigger/whatever mode. Why? His Demon mode was already explained on DMC3, where Vergil forces it to come out for the first time. So he actually has three transformations?
-What about Dante's mom, Vergil and maybe Sparda? You know they're gonna mess with the story.
-Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I saw some arwowrk of young Dante and Vergil with silver/white hair. Don't quote me on that but if it's true, then yeah, more messing up with the story!

Loo, it's obvious you don't care about the fans. I suppose that's expected. I remember when Cole from InFamous got a makeover and people didn't like it and the developers changed it. Awesome; the game sold like pancakes. But it's obvious that most developers are not gonna do that. But at least don't be so blunt about it! You're only making enemies!

Ninja Theory, you claim that once we see DmC, we're gonna cry because it will be that awesome. True or not, at least try and get along with Dante's fans! THEY will buy your game at the end, crappy or not. It has been proven that good games won't sell if people are just not interested in them. And I gotta say, as much as I wanna buy this game, these guys are just making me change my mind little by little.

Geez, Capcom. This new you is starting to piss me of. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.