Nintendo Bullies Fan Sites Over Pokemon B&W Pics

[MeTheMe]

There seems to a general outcry from Nintendo and Pokemon fans going on here... whether it's a fake or not, I think Nintendo has some answering it needs to do for its fans. I want to see them defend themselves from their own fans.

 

[willsham45]

I say post the offending images on as many website you can.

 

[stabnex]

This is the exact reason I haven't bought anything by Nintendo since the 64! They're cock eaters!

 

[sneakypenguin]

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why do you people feel that breaking the law is okay?

The game is out... This is like someone capturing a screen to post in a review. I'm pretty sure its allowed.

But it isn't a review. If it had been a review, then it would have been fair use. but it isn't.

again, if a movie is released and it is put on the internet. it is illegal.

and yes the game is out, but not to the world. It is in a particular region. at the time that information is only available FOR THAT REGION!!!

Again, they were breaking copyright. why is that so hard to understand?

The EULA of games today pretty much say that it is against the terms for anyone to share the information (data) of the game without the consent of the makers. When they published that information they are breaking the copyright.

when you buy a game, you do not buy the game. You do not own the information in the game. you buy a licence to use the game. When you buy that licence, there are rules that come with it.

these people are breaking the rules.

So in your world it would be illegal to import said game? To post a picture to facebook with some ultra rare pokemon from it? The hell?!

Problems with EULA's
1. you one see them only after purchase
2. if your under 18 can you consent to a legally binding document

 

[KaiRai]

Well Nintendo, first you release the Wii and now this?

Congrats, only a decade in, you win assholes of the Century. Beating Activision by a hair.

 

[Space Jawa]

I hope this game gets pirated to DEATH just for spite.

Now that's among the worst possible responses for anyone to have to the situation.

Also, we already know that's never going to happen.

 

[Electrogecko]

Yes it is a huge overreaction. I bet their logic was "lots of people will buy the game to see all the new Pokemon, and since you can look at them all online, buying the game would be pointless." Yes it kinda makes sense, but anybody who doesn't buy the game cuz they saw a few pictures is a fricken weirdo. It's also possible that they simply didn't want there to be spoilers for those who haven't played the game yet- I know that I wouldn't want to see any new Pokemon before I discover them in game.

 

[ANImaniac89]

In this situation I don't think Nintendo is trying to be evil.
from what I have read Pokemon Black and White are suppose to be a sort of re-birth of the Pokemon franchise, and Nintendo wants it to be a surprising experience like it was back in the days of Red,Blue,Green and Yellow. They doing a really good job at keeping its details somewhat secret they have Region locking on the DSi to prevent importer from getting it, they made it almost un-patchable so it can't be pirated(at least I'm told) and now removing spoiler images off American websites. All this is working to try and re-create some of the magic from the first games. Are they going about it in a wrong way? Yes, but I understand why. Pokemon as a series lately has only retread the same ground that was all ready covered pre-Gold/Silver era which was arguably the late time the series made any real innovation, and people have noticed. This is Nintendo effort to shake things up.

Not telling us what the new pokemon are isn't going to make this one less exactly the same as all the others.

like I said they are going about it in a completely ass backwards way, which might end up back firing on them in the long run. All I said was I understood why.

 

[OldRat]

NOW DON'T GO SHOWING ANYONE THEM NEW POKEYMANS!

Well, they kinda have the right to do this. It's just that it also kinda makes them seem like huge dicks. I'm quite sure people don't generally care any more whether they know or don't know what the next of the COMPLETELY UNIQUE AND INCREDIBLY INNOVATIVE critters will be.
Come to think of it, I really didn't care about any of that surprise stuff way back when I managed to plead and moan my mother into getting me a Gameboy and Pokemon Red.

 

[orangeapples]

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why do you people feel that breaking the law is okay?

The game is out... This is like someone capturing a screen to post in a review. I'm pretty sure its allowed.

But it isn't a review. If it had been a review, then it would have been fair use. but it isn't.

again, if a movie is released and it is put on the internet. it is illegal.

and yes the game is out, but not to the world. It is in a particular region. at the time that information is only available FOR THAT REGION!!!

Again, they were breaking copyright. why is that so hard to understand?

The EULA of games today pretty much say that it is against the terms for anyone to share the information (data) of the game without the consent of the makers. When they published that information they are breaking the copyright.

when you buy a game, you do not buy the game. You do not own the information in the game. you buy a licence to use the game. When you buy that licence, there are rules that come with it.

these people are breaking the rules.

So in your world it would be illegal to import said game? To post a picture to facebook with some ultra rare pokemon from it? The hell?!

Problems with EULA's
1. you one see them only after purchase
2. if your under 18 can you consent to a legally binding document

well it isn't my world (if it had been my world Pokemon and all games would have received a world wide release), and yes it is illegal.

as for the EULA:
you buy it and you have been warned. That doesn't stop you from playing it and enjoying it. but you aren't supposed to be sharing that with people who don't have a licence.

And in most cases the licence would belong to the parent, and it is within the same household, so it is okay.

and I have seen people under 18 consent to a legally binding contract. A school syllabus for example is a contract. It pretty much states that if the student doesn't do their work then they will receive a lowered mark and in some cases fail. Student does their work, student doesn't fail. that looks like a contract to me.

 

[SuperCombustion]

Only nintendo can get pissy about pokemon...

and, for the record; why does nintendo always try and stop people from buying their games?! Isn't that mentioned in marketing 101, advertise why your game is good, not the other way round?

 

[Archemetis]

Yeah, Nintendo... Lord forbid the unwavering enthusiasm shown towards your latest shameless cash-in have a negative affect on your sales...

Seriously did I hit my head and suddenly we don't live in reality any more?

If this is actually real then what is Nintendo's damage? Free publicity for an overseas audience that likely won't even see official promotional material until next year can only serve as a good thing.

Granted, if the sites in question used ROMs to find the sprites then that's some-what wrong, but it's they're both fan-sites that pride themselves from having the most up-to-date information on the games. In the cases of B&W the western site contributors would need ROMs to stay in the know.

Granted using ROMs is still illegal and in that sense wrong, but whose to say that once they'd gathered the info necessary they wouldn't go on to buy the official western release?

Beyond that, how the hell else do Nintendo intend for their western audience to get hyped for the game?

I'm not entirely sure on this because I've not really properly looked into it, but when it comes to Pokémon releases in the UK I've never seen it go anywhere past one TV ad...
That is the extent I've ever seen for Pokémon promotional material on our end of the world...

In Japan they have entire TV segments filled with it, Gaming magazines dedicated to it a campaign that reveals new monster every-so-often.

What does the Western side get? an official TV ad, the occasional article in a gaming mag and whatever else we can scrape up on the Internet.

Let's face it, these sites Nintendo targeted make up about 70%-80% of the Pokémon game hype on the western front.


Stupid move Nintendo...

 

[Buizel91]

I was upset when i went onto Serebii and couldn't see any pictures, not even Pokemon...What's so bloody different this time! =( seriously Nintendo. Grow. Up.

You may want to change your avatar. Pikachu(tm) is owned by Nintendo and is subject to the terms and conditions of the International Copyright Act. Refusal to do so will resort in your escapist account being closed and your assets seized while potential damages are assessed by a Federal Court of Law.

OT: I'm finding it harder and harder to find a company that isn't going out of its way to fuck its consumer base. Activision-Blizzard, Ubisoft, Square-Enix, Sony, Nintendo, I don't play EA games but I suspect they're no better than Ubisoft. Is Microsoft the only company left that actually gives a damn whether their consumers are happy with them or not?

NEVER!!!!!!! Anyway Pikachu is an Old Pokemon and is known about I aint the only one on the Escapist with a Pikachu Avatar

Plus i can't think of another Avatar i would like =\

 

[Weaver]

Looks like Nintendo is taking a play out of Bobby Kotick's handbook.

 

[Uber Waddles]

OH TEH NOES! YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF POKERMANS IS ON TEH INTERNET TOO LETS HAVE THEM REMOVE IT TOO! ITS VIOLATING OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY!

... Seriously Nintendo? Seriously?

Its a fucking game. Dont get me wrong, I love Pokemon, but its a GAME. People are ALLOWED to post information on it, to share photos, make fansites, etc.

What WOULD be a violation of your IP would be to take your Pokemon or mechanics, and put them into their own game, or something along those likes. Its not illegal to take sprites, pictures, or videos of a medium, so long as they dont have the intent to sell.

-AND- considering Serebii and PokeBeach are FREE and dont require you to pay a membership, Id have to say you ate a dogshit bullet on this one Nintendo.

HOWEVER, I would like to ~kinda~ thank Nintendo. I want Black/White to be relatively spoiler free, since I dont want to see all the new Pokemon (doing so for D/P kinda ruined some of the fun)

 

[Fruitloops89]

Wait, didn't The Escapist post some of the images of the new Pokemon before the game was released?

 

[mjc0961]

What, did someone at Nintendo wake up that morning, look at Activision, and say "Hey! I bet we can be bigger assholes than them!"?

 

[RikSharp]

They could just do a worldwide release. Just saying. You don't have voice acting, 90% of the translations are already done (Pikachu is still Pikachu).

not quite, our pikachu is made up of 7 characters, in japan only 5 are used, although it sounds the same when you say it.

multiply that with every bit of text in the game and in several languages and you have a rather big job on hand.



although there is (in my opinion) no reason why we can't have a worldwide launch if all the translations are done before the japanese launch.
also, more on topic, i also beleive that this is a ploy to stop everyone seeing the new pokermon before they get the game. the copyright infringement claim was far too specific in that it only covered images from black and white.

 

[Vhite]

Nintendo are bastards, they already prooved it by canceling pokemon MMO.