Nintendo Can Disable a Pirate's 3DS Remotely

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8bitmaster

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I am still looking forward to there being a workaround on this so I can hack it and play imports if I feel like. That is truly all I play on my psp anymore. Why does Japan get some of the best exclusives?

edit: I was originally thinking about getting one. This made me change my mind. I will wait for the NGP thank you.
 

Gammaj4

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Yes. How DARE they try to stop you from STEALING GAMES.
How evil and underhanded of them.
 

Omegatronacles

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One concern which doesn't seem to have come up is corruption of the games.

I had a game on my DS, had fun playing it, up until one day the data on the cartridge corrupted itself in the middle of a game. No warning, just one moment playing, the next minute everything froze.

Reset the console, game started loading up, got to the main menu screen and the sound was just a screeching mess, and the graphics severely scrambled. Tried it on a friends DS, he got the same result, all other games worked fine. I concluded that somethign happened to the memory, got annoyed, got over it, and bought another copy of the game.

But, what if this happens on the 3DS? Can that be accidentally construed as hacking? It's an "operation" outside the normal realm for both console and game. How will the monitoring software interpret such an event?

Also, what does this mean for after market peripherals? Devices like the Gameshark have been around since the Super Nintendo. Does that mean that if someone uses a device like that their console gets bricked as well?

And finally, you can frequently find DS game cartridges like this

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/POKEMON-WHITE-NINTENDO-DS-DSi-XL-w-ALL-649-Lv100-SHINY-/250782091068?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3a63c7073c

and this

http://multidsgames.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=83&osCsid=doi854b20cs8g7ai1phd1aso25

Neither of these products are set up the way they came from the factory. While I would never consider buying them, not everyone is going to feel the same way. Especially those who know very little about the console or the games.

I can see a parent buying one of the multi cartridges for their kid because of the apparent savings on offer for them, and I can see such Nintendo bricking the console, because it is not a legitimate Nintendo product.
 

Raioken18

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Are you kidding regional lock out?
As someone who has gone to the painful effort of importing games rather than pirating them in the past, this is a massive kick in the face.

I really don't care about the piracy detection thing, but if there is regional lock outs, I definitely won't be wasting my money getting a console where I won't be able to play games that aren't sold in my region. I live in Australia, so importing games gets me them months to years ahead of our release dates over here, and that's if they get released here at all, we often miss out on great games just because they aren't main stream.

If nintendo does this I swear I will just wait till an emulator gets released, it could take a decade, I'm patient..

It's been painful enough trying to get my hands on Rune Factory 3 released over a year ago in japan and 4 months ago in the US. Oh wait it's not being released here and under that system I would be unable to play a game I love unless I buy a second console.

I wanna punch a nintendo rep...
 

DudeistBelieve

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As others have said, have no intention to pirate and I wouldn't even know how, but the fact Nintendo can do this is a little to 1984 if they can know how many steps I'm taking. Sale lost.

 

AwesomeSuperMelon

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Thing is, the people who provide pirated games are clever. They will find a way to get past Nintendo's DRM thingy, and pirating will continue as always.

But one thing I dont get, and people seem to be against is homebrew games. Whats wrong with them? I played one or two before. They wern't great, but killed some time while wainting for real things to come out. This will kill any 3DS that someone put tried to run a homebrew game on. Bit harsh, no?
 

Dexiro

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As long as they let you appeal to have it debricked or replaced I see no problem with it, and they'd have to be damn careful about who they brick in the first place.

I don't mind anti-piracy measures as long as they don't affect me.
 

ph0b0s123

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Really not liking this trend of locking down devices so they can only be used in the way the manufacture wants. I support trying to decrease piracy, but yet again the cost is too much. But people will quite happily buy these products with tighter and tighter controls on.

Just wait until you have to get your TV and DVD / Blu-ray play to log into an on-line account so they can check you are not watching stuff they don't approve of or make it difficult for you to resell them 2nd hand due to being locked to you. That's the way we are going.

And I will be there saying I told you so.....
 

airrazor7

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-3 console gaming
+2 pc gaming

getting real tired of the control freaks in the console industry. Do they not realize that they are only giving bigger challenges to hackers and pirates? That's the reason why most hackers and pirates do it, not to gain something for free but for the challenge and the ego trip.
 

Ulquiorra4sama

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Eh, what do i care? I never buy games online, only at the local store so i'm not affected by the region lock and also i'm sure all games i get are legit so Nintendo can just keep it up for all i care.

But if the shut off my 3DS by "accident" then there shall be RAAAGE! ...of the viking variety.
 

Snake Plissken

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Wow. Sorry Nintendo, but you just lost another sale.

I was DEFINITELY going to own the 3DS, and now I never will. I had no intent to pirate anything, but simply by inserting an R4 into my device, you want to brick it. Go get someone else's money, then. You won't be getting mine. Such a shame, I heard you really like that stuff...
 

Vibhor

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jp201 said:
losing sales? seriously?

the system will succeed based upon how well it works and the titles that will be released on it not by some anti pirating scheme.
DRM mah boi!
Seriously, have you been living under a rock when hot discussion against DRM was going place?

jp201 said:
I'm pretty sure Nintendo is not a company full of idiots and wouldn't be doing this if they believed it would help them in the long run.
Yeah right.
Everyone makes mistake. Just because they are big and rich doesn't mean they are perfect and would never make mistake.
Take EA for example.

jp201 said:
I can't believe just how many of you people think that all these "lost sales" from pirates is going to cause them to lose any money.
Okay let me explain it to you bit by bit.
A pirate buys a DS to play pirated games instead of using an emulator which is free.
The money from the bought DS goes to the company but not the games, they still are getting money though.
With their "disabling whole 3DS" thingy going on,pirates would NOT even BUY a
Console and instead would use the FREE emulator with FREE games which means the company loses sales of the console AND the games at the same time instead of getting the profit on console but not on games.
Half IS better than NONE.
Simple enough?

jp201 said:
Every major company not just Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony but also movie and music industries do some kind of anti pirating methods to at least make it harder on them.
By doing this they punish the consumer instead. Like the EA 10$ project or the Ubisoft suckish DRM. This kind of behavior just promotes the consumer to pirate the piece of software.
Tell me this, would you rather BUY a software with cold hard cash just to get a gimmicky and buggy DRM with it or rather get it for FREE with absolutely no problem and even sometimes better support than the actual game itself.

jp201 said:
I don't have the words to say just how stupid that post was.
This line is the only reason I replied.
Think some more before posting next time (By some I most certainly mean A LOT)
 

Electrogecko

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God the mob mentality here is absurd.
THE 3DS DOES NOT UPDATE WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION, EVEN IF WIRELESS CAPABILITIES ARE TURNED ON.
 

aashell13

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I just won't buy one then. Seriously, the more I see of the console/handheld world, the less I want anything to do with it. Thank God for my PC.
 

TheEvilCheese

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Wait, wait, wait....
You are going to disable the hardware that I bought with my money and is mine because I used it for something you don't like.

Now, banning me from online services I can understand but you want to break MY PROPERTY for doing something against your ideals.

U mad?
 

Koganesaga

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Strictly on this anti piracy thing, I give Nintendo thumbs up. Screw you lazy bastards that refuse to give game designers what they earned. If you wanna take money out of their pockets, I see no reason why Nintendo shouldn't do the same to you. Plus, if it's only pirates that need to worry, only people who are stealing should complain in which case you have no right to and should shut the hell up.