The motion controls were a good idea in theory, but most developers didn't use them right, hell, many of them just flat out ignored motion control. There were a handful of great games for the Wii, but the majority of its games were low budget garbage........ The Wii's weak specs didn't help either.
I'm hoping Nintendo will turn things around with the WiiU, I hear the specs are good (but will probably be outdone by PS4 and Xbox..something), and they say they're focusing more on hardcore games on this system than they did for the Wii, but I'm not expecting too much out of that system.... who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
And the 3DS, it sort of sucks right now, but a lot of the upcoming titles actually look really fun and, some even original *gasp*
Its because money is all that matters. Until they hit a slump somewhere down the road, nothing be will questioned. Just consume whatever you specifically choose and be content with it.
(insert Yathzee quote), ''in fact, you can be forgiven for saying:''There aren't any.''.'' Zelda and Mario don't seem to have undergone any changes despite maybe a slightly remodeling in HD, but that's it.
This picture sums up why I think complaints like that are total crap.
Obviously, the series will use similar core mechanics that evolve through the years, but Nintendo has made a serious effort to make sure the games have enough variety to stand out. Same goes for Mario, but I don't have a picture for that one.
For posting that picture, you get 100 awesome points. "Zelda/Metroid/Mario never change." Proof of ignorance right there. Mario Galaxy was some seriously cool stuff and everyone keeps saying how Paper Mario is amazing too (wish I could have played it).
For posting that picture, you get 100 awesome points. "Zelda/Metroid/Mario never change." Proof of ignorance right there. Mario Galaxy was some seriously cool stuff and everyone keeps saying how Paper Mario is amazing too (wish I could have played it).
Thanks! I'm glad someone enjoyed it; ten minutes in Paint well spent. People claiming that all Mario, Zelda, Metroid, ect. games are the same always give me the impression that they haven't actually taken the time to play these games.
[sub]and/or they listen to Yahtzee a little too much...[/sub]
I used to kiss the ground Nintendo walk on (usually were companies used to be)I had a wii and the only game I ever liked was ssbb. but now i sold it and got an xbox and dreamcast. my life is so much better now
This post I'm about to make is about to become my default answer to anyone who has a problem with the Wii.
Me and a friend recently weer talking about console exclusives (we're both PC gamers, but pay good attention to consoles too) and I told him the Wii was the console with the most good exclusives.
Let's break this down, what does the 360 have?
Halo
Forza
Banjo & Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Kameo
Crackdown
Dance Central (Don't argue, it's really well made)
EDF 2017
Gears of War
Viva Pinata
TOTAL: 9
PS3 time now:
Ratchet & Clank
Demon's Souls
Disgaea
God of War
Gran Turismo
iNFamous
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid
ModNation Racers
Uncharted
Valkyria Chronicles
Yakuza
Wipeout
TOTAL: 13
Now it's time for the Wii.
Mario platformers
Mario racers
Smash Bros.
DK country returns
Kirbys epic yarn
Fire Emblem
Klonoa
Little King's Story
Twilight Princess
Madworld
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
Monster Hunter Tri
No More Heroes
Red Steel 2 (The first was crap, the 2nd is just too short, but great great fun to play)
Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor
Tales of Symphonia
Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Possibly even better than MvC3)
Eledees (Known as Elebits outside Europe I believe)
Battalion Wars
TOTAL: 19
Add in GC backwards comparability and the Virtual console and you get essentially the full back catalogue, including so many greats I actually couldn't name them all without just linking to the shop itself.
The biggest crux of this argument is the vast amount of games that the 360 and PS3 have that the Wii doesn't.
Your argument of the Wii having more "exclusives" would hold true if almost every other game was on all 3 systems except for the exclusives,but this isn't the case. There are a boatload of 360/PS3 only games that a Wii owner would really miss out on and I think that kind of takes a strike against the console.
Ok first of all I'm going to remind everyone that HD is just a big fucking gimmick, esp. those who pounce on motion controls and claim that they are a gimmick.
Its not reminding us if you're completely wrong. Graphical advancement has been behind every single console generation since gaming began. HD is not a "gimmick", it the ened result of what gaming has been working towards. You can't just abitrarily say the Wii is "good enough", especially when you're demonstratably wrong.
This post I'm about to make is about to become my default answer to anyone who has a problem with the Wii.
Me and a friend recently weer talking about console exclusives (we're both PC gamers, but pay good attention to consoles too) and I told him the Wii was the console with the most good exclusives.
Let's break this down, what does the 360 have?
Halo
Forza
Banjo & Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Kameo
Crackdown
Dance Central (Don't argue, it's really well made)
EDF 2017
Gears of War
Viva Pinata
TOTAL: 9
PS3 time now:
Ratchet & Clank
Demon's Souls
Disgaea
God of War
Gran Turismo
iNFamous
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid
ModNation Racers
Uncharted
Valkyria Chronicles
Yakuza
Wipeout
TOTAL: 13
Now it's time for the Wii.
Mario platformers
Mario racers
Smash Bros.
DK country returns
Kirbys epic yarn
Fire Emblem
Klonoa
Little King's Story
Twilight Princess
Madworld
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
Monster Hunter Tri
No More Heroes
Red Steel 2 (The first was crap, the 2nd is just too short, but great great fun to play)
Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor
Tales of Symphonia
Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Possibly even better than MvC3)
Eledees (Known as Elebits outside Europe I believe)
Battalion Wars
TOTAL: 19
Add in GC backwards comparability and the Virtual console and you get essentially the full back catalogue, including so many greats I actually couldn't name them all without just linking to the shop itself.
Well if you want to list thinks like this... no more heroes is coming over to the PS3 in an HD remake, so that's no longer "exclusive", and for the 360 you forgot fable and tales of vesperia, at least. If you're going to include symphonia for the wii you should be fair and include vesperia for the 360... and the ps3 will have tales of graces as an exclusive as well as white knight chronicles.
It's not always quantity though, it's quality. A particular system might have a TON of exclusives, but if it's not what something it interested in then it doesn't matter. Having "good" exclusives is all up to opinion.
Look! More mindless Wii/DS/3DS hatred! It's almost as if they don't acknowledge that the wii has some solid games, the DS' library is BRIMMING with amazing must-play titles and that the 3DS' good games are being released as we speak and just want to hate the company!
"Just ignore them, maybe they'll get lives/go away."
The fact I clicked the button to give you all Beiber avatars makes it easier to not take it seriously.
Me and a friend recently weer talking about console exclusives (we're both PC gamers, but pay good attention to consoles too) and I told him the Wii was the console with the most good exclusives.
Really? You're going to determine a console's value simply from the number of exclusives it's got? And even then you have to take into account that everyone won't like all the exclusives anyway. Most 'good' exclusives or no.
Exclusives are just incentives to chose one platform over another and it all comes down to what you prefer.
Ok first of all I'm going to remind everyone that HD is just a big fucking gimmick, esp. those who pounce on motion controls and claim that they are a gimmick.
Its not reminding us if you're completely wrong. Graphical advancement has been behind every single console generation since gaming began. HD is not a "gimmick", it the ened result of what gaming has been working towards. You can't just abitrarily say the Wii is "good enough", especially when you're demonstratably wrong.
(insert Yathzee quote), ''in fact, you can be forgiven for saying:''There aren't any.''.'' Zelda and Mario don't seem to have undergone any changes despite maybe a slightly remodeling in HD, but that's it.
This picture sums up why I think complaints like that are total crap.
Obviously, the series will use similar core mechanics that evolve through the years, but Nintendo has made a serious effort to make sure the games have enough variety to stand out. Same goes for Mario, but I don't have a picture for that one.
Mehall said:
Muramasa! Of course! Knew I was forgetting one!
And I don't think Overkill should make the list, but I would agree with you on the Resi games.
Fair enough. I mostly suggested it for the cut scenes, which I think are funny enough to make the game worthwhile, but not everyone is going to think that.
I absolutely hate Nintendo. Mainly because it's the largest, richest and oldest games developer in the world and they still can't think of a new game every 5 years or so, or even ten years. It's just a load of sameyness, dating all the way back to 1984, and the differences on terms of gameplay, story and character development are subtle (insert Yathzee quote), ''in fact, you can be forgiven for saying:''There aren't any.''.'' Zelda and Mario don't seem to have undergone any changes despite maybe a slightly remodeling in HD, but that's it. Rockstar can develop a character better in 30 minutes then Nintendo can in 30 years and yes that is pretty fucking embarrasing! I am totally tired of saving Peach's ass up to a big ''Screw you, *****, get someone else to do this besides Luigi!''
All right, I will admit that Rockstar basically have been making the same game for the past fifteen years, you dropped in a city and you murder everyone and steal their cars, but at least the guy you play changes, and you get to know everyone of them!
Hardware from Nintendo always is experimental, and mostly realeased before it fully works properly. This not a good thing, and learning throughh trial and error is not something in its favor when you have to pay 300 bucks for it. And the Wii wasn't that groundshaking, since the same company made it before, only a lot worse. And uglier. Even the most adement Nintendo fanboy can unirobically claim that the Power Glove worked just fine.
In short, I hate Nintendo because they spend less time writing new scripts then they spend counting all the money Mario has made them.
For the record, Nintendo didn't make the Power Glove, although it was officially licensed. And they did make the Virtual Boy, so yeah their history is hardly untarnished, but what else can you expect of a company that's more than a century old (not even joking).
I agree that for quite a while Nintendo has mostly been rehashing old ideas, but that's a complaint I have of the entire videogame industry right now. If you look at the lineup at this year's E3, nearly every title is a sequel to something else. And what's worse is most series' also look the same as other series. If you showed someone off the street clips or screensots from CoD, Battlefield, Killzone or Gears of War, I bet they'd have trouble distinguishing them. Everyone bashes on Halo for not innovating, but at least it doesn't look the same as every other shooter.
What I'm trying to say is, if Gears of War 4 decides to use a yarn motif and motion controls, then maybe I'll start accusing Nintendo of stagnating.
The point I'm trying to make is that Nintendo is constantly rehashing 30 year old titles, maybe with a graphic improvement, but it would be really sad if that didn't happen. The story, the characters and the objective have always been the same: rescue your dumbass princess who got her ass kidnapped for the billionth time.
So I would like to challenge Nintendo: make a Mario game which has backstory and a different stroy all together.
I don't have a Wii as it didn't appeal to me, but I have had a lot of fun with my DS lite, and when it goes down in price I am seriously considering getting the 3DS. It's nice to have a colourful game to escape from the shooters and the gritty realism at times. I must agree that there is a lot of shovelware out there, but nothing clears up a bad mood quicker than 4 people over at a friends playing Mario Kart wii. Maybe I am not seeing things clearly as I have grown up around Nintendo (the Wii is the only Nintendo console I don't own if I recall correctly) so I can't see it's faults, but it does still give me a lot of fun, and isn't that all that really matters?
The point I'm trying to make is that Nintendo is constantly rehashing 30 year old titles, maybe with a graphic improvement, but it would be really sad if that didn't happen. The story, the characters and the objective have always been the same: rescue your dumbass princess who got her ass kidnapped for the billionth time.
So I would like to challenge Nintendo: make a Mario game which has backstory and a different stroy all together.
Yeah, it's true that Nintendo games don't tend to have deep or compelling stories, but I don't generally play games for the story, and I definitely don't play Mario for the story. At least Nintendo's stories are straightforward enough not to detract from the experience with cringe-worthy dialogue and voice acting, etc.
They do take risks with story occasionally, like in Wind Waker when
all of Hyrule got flooded,
but I too would like to seem them do more to alter their formulas, or invent some new IPs.
In terms of gameplay though, I think on average Nintendo innovates and takes risks more than most big-budget companies. Maybe that's a sad commentary on the industry, since they certainly do their share of rehashing, but I don't understand why they are so often singled out in this regard.
As an avid game enthusiast for 20 years or so, I remember being an ardent supporter of all things Nintendo; if the Wii didn't change my mind, the last month has cemented my opinion that Nintendo deserves non of our money.
I bought a Wii for my parents to use exclusively for Wii sports, and have not been impressed by any of the games released for it - almost every title imo would have been improved with HD graphics and a good control.
Now with the WiiU having only 1 controller, and the debacle over project rainfall; I dont understand why anyone would give money to people who take us for granted?
Oh and as for Arkham City...I'll be playing it months earlier on my PS3 thanks Reggie.
super smash bros and zelda is pretty mch the only reason to get a wii.. oh and old games, altho they didn't let out some of my old favorites, and i still have those on my snes.
I was told this story by teachers in an attempt to keep us off of drugs. However, I think it fits this situation nicely too.
Try to imagine the coolest guy you went to school with throughout K-12. You know, the guy who had a million friends, was captain of every sports team, had all the girls he wanted, and even got good grades too, without being a bully or unlikable in any dimension besides envy. Every guy in the school wants to be him. Then, everyone goes off to college and few keep in touch. Time passes and you eventually see him on the side of the road as an unshaven crack addict whose once awesome life completely fell apart. He has no money, no girlfriend, and no one wants to be like him anymore. You have no idea what happened to him, but he is certainly not the giant you once looked up to anymore. What's even more pathetic is that he has no idea that anything changed and still acts like he thinks he's hot shit whereas he now he only smells like it.
This is the story of Nintendo. They had every advantage, cornered the market early, branded the video game world's most beloved and iconic characters, were practically the sole force in the industry for years, and then, something happened, and they were reduced to what you see before you today.
Are you serious? You judge the consoles based on (some) of the exclusives it has? Did you ever stop to think that maybe some people don't even like most of those games? For example, personally the only "exclusive" on Wii that I'm interested in is No More Heroes, and that has been re-released in HD on PS3 anyway so your arguement is completely invalid.
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