I have been a collector of old video games for a while now and once you have played all of the "big" games on that system, things start to get boring. sure, super mario world's replay value is like no other game's, but what we really need is something fresh. let's face it, nintendo has a harsh competition against sony and microsoft, and straitfordly, they arent really winning. i think that if nintendo started to make games for these old consoles again such as the snes, nes, and n64, they might get do better in the gaming industry, or even go as far to say that they would be back to where they were in the 80s and 90s-on top of the world.so what do you think? if nintendo started reselling newer improved versions of nes and snes consoles (and n64)that DIDNT have a 64 pin connector issue, and made newer games for them, would they do good? i would love to see them make remastered consoles that could play both old regular console games such as super mario world, and could play newer snes and whatever console it was games. and they could make it where the old systems could play the new games too. what do you guys think about this? who else wants to see more nes, snes, and n64 games? i would probably become a nintendo fanboy again lol.
nintendo should start making SNES, N64, NES games again
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I think it would be a bad idea for them to concentrate on older type games sure there is a market for NES SNES and N64 type games but its pretty niche and I dont think they would get a load of new players buying into it those who are interested are likely to own the required consoles already.
They can still make older style games and release them on the WiiU store though that would be fine. There is no way that going back to past glories will suddenly rejuvenate them they have alienated themselves from the gamers with their blue water strategy (may have the name slightly off) it made them uber rich in the short term but now they are not looking so hot. They need to reposition themselves again and market effectively because they do actually have a few quality games for the WiiU now more than Microsoft and Sony have for their consoles (as you would expect) but almost no one is looking at them they just dont see them as a games company anymore its just between Microsoft and Sony to a lot of people now, Nintendo could release the best game ever made and a surprisingly large amount of people wouldnt even notice or care atm.
As for me I dont care what games they release for what as long as they are good but I dont own a NES and the game would have to be pretty amazing to make me go through the hassle of setting up my SNES and/or N64 atm if it was on the digital store on the WiiU I would be much more likely to purchase it.
They can still make older style games and release them on the WiiU store though that would be fine. There is no way that going back to past glories will suddenly rejuvenate them they have alienated themselves from the gamers with their blue water strategy (may have the name slightly off) it made them uber rich in the short term but now they are not looking so hot. They need to reposition themselves again and market effectively because they do actually have a few quality games for the WiiU now more than Microsoft and Sony have for their consoles (as you would expect) but almost no one is looking at them they just dont see them as a games company anymore its just between Microsoft and Sony to a lot of people now, Nintendo could release the best game ever made and a surprisingly large amount of people wouldnt even notice or care atm.
As for me I dont care what games they release for what as long as they are good but I dont own a NES and the game would have to be pretty amazing to make me go through the hassle of setting up my SNES and/or N64 atm if it was on the digital store on the WiiU I would be much more likely to purchase it.
Well naturally the biggest problem with making new games for old consoles (as in the same actual cartridges that were made back in the day) is that the consoles that actually play these games haven't been made in decades and are really hard to find. So they'd also have to start remaking the consoles, which is kind of silly because of how much technology has progressed. The GBA has the same processing power as the SNES, if I remember correctly.
Honestly, Nintendo has already made a new and improved N64--it's called the Wii and WiiU. And before that it was the Gamecube. Sure, the N64 didn't have motion controls like the Wii does, but the N64 had a joystick which the SNES didn't. And I can already play Super Mario World on my Gameboy Advance and I'm pretty sure my 3DS as well. I'm pretty sure it's on the digital store, and if not it probably will be eventually because Nintendo more than any other company knows how much its customers eat up nostalgia.
There is absolutely no point in Nintendo trying to remake the N64 or the SNES. Whatever games they want to remake and sell for the sake of nostalgia can just as easily be ported to their newest consoles. And besides, these days when people play remakes, they aren't just looking for straight ports. They want HD remakes--with the graphics upgraded and sharpened and problems smoothed out.
Honestly, Nintendo has already made a new and improved N64--it's called the Wii and WiiU. And before that it was the Gamecube. Sure, the N64 didn't have motion controls like the Wii does, but the N64 had a joystick which the SNES didn't. And I can already play Super Mario World on my Gameboy Advance and I'm pretty sure my 3DS as well. I'm pretty sure it's on the digital store, and if not it probably will be eventually because Nintendo more than any other company knows how much its customers eat up nostalgia.
There is absolutely no point in Nintendo trying to remake the N64 or the SNES. Whatever games they want to remake and sell for the sake of nostalgia can just as easily be ported to their newest consoles. And besides, these days when people play remakes, they aren't just looking for straight ports. They want HD remakes--with the graphics upgraded and sharpened and problems smoothed out.
I wish Nintendo would start making N64 controllers again, the knock offs just aren't that good. Of course, I have zero confidence in that happening. There are plenty of functional N64 consoles around and they aren't that expensive, it's Nintendo brand controllers that are running low.
Well there's more than enough Nintendo brand controllers around that's for sure. Plus, even Nintendo-branded controllers in good condition only cost about the same price as GameCube ones, and that's about $20 really.WeepingAngels said:
OT: OP, that wouldn't really be a good idea. Hell you can get a lot of the games from SNES, NES, and N64 on Virtual Console. Of course, Nintendo's been dropping the ball majorly with the Virtual Console, especially now that they have a HD console. I mean seriously, GBA games on the Wii U and not the 3DS!? That's stupid all it's own, and where the hell are the GameCube games on the damned thing. If they haven't announced something like Melee for the VC within a year of Smash 4's launch I will question their sanity. They'd have a machine that can play every Smash game to date, and with a GameCube controller no less!
Hell, bar the Virtual Boy, the Wii U only doesn't have GameCube games. Other than that, there is one of every home console game on the Wii U, from NES to N64. Hell they'll even be doing DS games with that emulation they've planned. Not to mention that the Wii U actually can play GameCube games, but the Wii U's operating system has the ability to read mini-dvds locked. The original reason was because there was no way to control the games, but with the GameCube adapter it should be possible.
yeah i guess your right on remaking the consoles, but even if it was a third party producer it would still be really cool if they could go and make snes/n64/nes games for the people that still have them.
Well there are 3rd party remakes for the consoles with HDMI support. There's one for the NES, Genesis, and the Retron 5 I believe just came out as well. Not to mention that there are cheap converters to allow you to connect them to your TV, and if you use RF connection then you basically have access to any TV when it comes to them.TheGamingPotato said:
..................... No. No, just no. Why would they do this? I know many might have these systems, but that's for the groups of people who still like those games and want to keep on playing theme. The mainstream doesn't care about retro systems. That won't make much money, nor will it sell very well, because of this. We're talking niche. Sure, niche games are still being made, but this is ultra-niche on the idea of nostalgia for old consoles. It just doesn't fit.
I'm all for it, because I grew up in that time. Thinking from a business point of view I don't think it would be all that successful. Us old farts would eat it up, but nobody else. I say make new SNES games because it's still my second favorite system of all time behind the PS2.
I'd be content if Nintendo just dumps the entire snes library on the 3DS eshop instead of the incidental NES/gameboy titles that are way overpriced. Or better yet some kind of 'best of..' snes collection similarly as the Genesis collection. But considering they re-release their 20+ year old games at almost the same snails pace as their new games, I don't really see that happening unfortunately.
Obviously it doesn't make much sense business wise for Nintendo to start making games for their old systems. They're over and done with and their market appeal has evaporated. Espescially a system like the N64(though great games it had) which was basically very early stage 3D gaming similarly as the Playstation and the games just look like absolute shit compared to today's standard.
However, I think sprite based games still have a distinct charm that can't be replicated with high-res 3D models. Nintendo has the resources and talent to make a 'successor' to the super nintendo, and at a cheap price and with the appropriate marketing I don't know, it could become a success. It would be a low cost/low risk deal for them anyway.
Nintendo's appeal was never in its cutting edge hardware but rather the timeless quality of its software. A cheap, sprite based retro alternative to advanced 3D games seems right up their alley I think. And maybe, just maybe, re-invigorate some of their old magic.
Obviously it doesn't make much sense business wise for Nintendo to start making games for their old systems. They're over and done with and their market appeal has evaporated. Espescially a system like the N64(though great games it had) which was basically very early stage 3D gaming similarly as the Playstation and the games just look like absolute shit compared to today's standard.
However, I think sprite based games still have a distinct charm that can't be replicated with high-res 3D models. Nintendo has the resources and talent to make a 'successor' to the super nintendo, and at a cheap price and with the appropriate marketing I don't know, it could become a success. It would be a low cost/low risk deal for them anyway.
Nintendo's appeal was never in its cutting edge hardware but rather the timeless quality of its software. A cheap, sprite based retro alternative to advanced 3D games seems right up their alley I think. And maybe, just maybe, re-invigorate some of their old magic.
I do not understand why Nintendo takes so long for re-releasing their game for their newer console. If most of the Nes, Snes, N64,etc was available on their new consoles, wouldn't this immediately provide them with a headstart at the launch of any new console cycle? Or is retro-gaming so marginal that it does not make a difference?stroopwafel said:
Just imagine if, instead of releasing the WiiU, Nintendo had released a console as powerful as his main competitors and with similar access to third party last fall. Then, at this they announce the same first party games that they did at this E3. On top of that, they provide broad access to their back catalogue. I think that would draw many costummers. Other consoles would become irrelevant for most people except the
Not sure I agree with that. SNES, N64 and the Gamecube were all very powerful consoles in their time (I remember reading that the Gamecube was actually more powerful than the PS2).stroopwafel said:
The only way it'd work is if they re-launched all those systems as well so as to try and introduce a new generation to more "classic" style games. If they could be sold as a much cheaper (I'm talking $100 max for an N64, with the SNES and NES being even cheaper) alternative to the current console war, it could possibly catch on. But at that pricing you'd likely have to sell a metric fuck-ton of units in order for it to be worth it.
ok first of all i never said anything about re-releasing games on newer systems. I said what if they made NEW games for snes and n64 and stuff. i am kinda rethinking about them making games again for the nes. the snes had so many advantages over it and the snes is just more fun to play in my opinion. another advantage that the snes has is it is a TOPloading system, meaning that people that still have a snes probably have it in still working condition. sure, if they made new games for the snes and maybe the n64 it probably wouldnt get as much as media attention as say the "new" 9001 ds or whatever the crap their new system they release is gonna be called, (yes its OVER 9000) but what the heck? why not give it a try. they wouldnt have to get their whole team to go in on the project. maybe just a small team to continue the lifecycle of the best system (snes) ever made. just like they did releasing fifa 14 on the ps2 (which they stopped making games for years ago.) also retro gaming is becoming very popular. i bet they would get some sales. another suggestion is that they make a original system. not another system with a u or i at the end. so in conclusion, since most people that have a snes probably still have it working, why not give it a try? we need to make retro gaming cool in modern day society!
Except they can't. Nintendo no longer manufacters the cartridges for the NES, Famicom, SNES, and N64. Two, limiting the games would be terrible, as the only thing out of those than can store the most space was the N64 cartridge, which in itself was less than 100 MB. Third, who says retro gaming isn't cool, because I know for a fact I've never heard anyone say that it wasn't. There are reasons why new generations come to be, and reasons why console manufacturers stop making games for their previous systems.TheGamingPotato said:
I gotta agree. Even if Nintendo decided to do NES/SNES/N64 games, which there is almost no chance of, there is no reason why they wouldn't release those games on the Virtual Consoles of their current systems and reach a larger possible audience, instead of going through the probably costly hassle of producing obsolete cartridges for a small number of enthusiasts.Rainbow_Dashtruction said:
If OP really wants his retro games, he should look towards the indie market on pc. There's heaps upon heaps of of old school platformers, beat em ups and what not out there.
Or if he really wants the real thing, once every while a homebrew game gets released on actual cartridges like Battle Kid: Fortress Of Peril (NES), Nightmare Busters (SNES) or Pier Solar and the Great Architects (Genesis). There's also a number of homebrew shmups for Dreamcast: Last Hope, Fast Striker, Gunlord, Neo XIX and DUX. Granted, limited production means they often sell out fast and getting them on ebay and such can be pretty expensive.
The first-party N64 controllers had the crappiest analogue joysticks of any era due to several problems including not using an absolute position like most others do but using a relative position from where it was when the controller was first plugged in. That would be fine if the self-centering mechanism didn't wear out after 5 seconds of use leaving an ever-increasing "centre" zone where there is no resistance whatsoever until eventually the mechanism just gives up completely and leaves the stick flopping about all over the place. And even if they did solve that problem then you have the additional problem that this system uses two wheels to keep track of the relative system which are so inaccurate that even if you left the stick in exactly the same position as it was in when the controller was activated you would still be getting random character movement from the systemWeepingAngels said:
Nintendo actually isn't doing that bad compared to the Sony and the Xbox brand. PS4 is doing amazing but I think that is the only part of Sony makeing money and their gaming division is suffering. They've laid off Devs for the Last three years with a Brand New Console launch and very little first party games for the VITA. Microsoft hasn't made a profit on the Xbox Brand and that's why share owners talk about selling it.
Only thing Nintendo needs to do is not release a underpowered console next generation and properly advertise it at launch.
Only thing Nintendo needs to do is not release a underpowered console next generation and properly advertise it at launch.