Nintendo Switch & Xbox One cross play ad for Minecraft

[Avnger]

So yesterday this ad for Cross play between Switch and Xbox One for the game Minecraft was posted.
now personally i don't play Minecraft at all nor do i have an interest in the game but i thought this ad was pretty amazing.

only a decade ago, people couldn't imagine possibly seeing companies like Nintendo Microsoft working together like this, not just on having cross play in the game, but to actually see them do something like put out this bit of shared marketing.

i think it's pretty amazing to actually see something like this trailer happen because of that. what do people here think about this ad?

Spoiler: video

So are we going to be getting a thread fellating Nintendo for every trailer they put out now?

Ninty has been on the cross-platform multiplayer trend essentially since the switch came out; it's not exactly "breaking news." You don't seem to be putting out a thread for every Microsoft trailer that has their exclusives be multiplatform between xbox and pc. That's just as newsworthy.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

So yesterday this ad for Cross play between Switch and Xbox One for the game Minecraft was posted.
now personally i don't play Minecraft at all nor do i have an interest in the game but i thought this ad was pretty amazing.

only a decade ago, people couldn't imagine possibly seeing companies like Nintendo Microsoft working together like this, not just on having cross play in the game, but to actually see them do something like put out this bit of shared marketing.

i think it's pretty amazing to actually see something like this trailer happen because of that. what do people here think about this ad?

Spoiler: video

So are we going to be getting a thread fellating Nintendo for every trailer they put out now?

Already there.
First time I see anybody give a shit about cross play too.

 

[Yoshi178]

They were pushing a new media format (which is still the standard) just like the previous generation with DVD?s. The Cell wasn?t even that expensive next to the Blu-ray drive. It also had full backwards compatibility and Linux support out of the box until (some) consumers took advantage of it beyond the EULA, which prompted its removal along with the added cost savings of trimming several functions when they introduced the Slim model.

As it was at launch, even with the inflated price, they were still losing around $200+ a unit to have all of that included, let alone taking an extra year to make sure their box was ready for sale. Now compare that to Microsoft who knowingly released a faulty product just to get an early sales lead, stuffing it with proprietary add-on?s and spearheading pay-to-play online, and who really seemed more guilty of anti-consumerism?

Firstly: going "but what about Microsoft!?" is not an argument, it's whataboutism. Secondly, both of them were. Sony basically threw a fit all of last generation because people weren't buying the PS3 en masse. Blu-Ray actually turned out to just be a stop gap at best because shortly afterward streaming took off and made the whole thing kinda redundant meaning that was a middling investment for Sony. And even when it was clear they were getting double teamed by MS and Nintendo and burnt through ALL the profits they ever made on the PS1 and PS2 Sony still tried to act like they were the top dog. The worst of this was with former SCEA President Jack Tretton in an interview with EGM blaming the PS3's woes on "society in general" and trying to play Sony as some sort of scorned victim and underdog.

Anyway, topic at hand. Crossplay has definitely been getting more popular over the years, mostly because third parties don't want to segregate their player base. The idea that Nintendo would advertise this is astounding.

The thread is about Microsoft and Nintendo's ad, but somehow it transgressed into a knock on the PS3 launch. I also didn't see where they "threw a fit all of last generation because people weren't buying the PS3 en masse", because their various first parties were too busy "sweating blood" according to Gabe Newell making a slew of killer exclusives. Eventually the PS3 ended up outselling 360 anyways, and that was a big part of why.

Streaming still doesn't hold a candle to Blu-ray quality audio or video, so it hasn't exactly taken off. There is a point with digital distribution, but we still have a current generation with Blu-ray drives and stores are still full of Blu-ray movies on shelves. Chances are next generation will have them too if for no other reason than bandwidth infrastructure still being largly pathetic in this country.

I haven't heard the Tretton comment, but agree he had an arrogant side. Maybe he meant the economic downturn that happened shortly after launch though too. His record in the industry overall reflects quite a bit better than blaming others for failures. For the hell of it I just googled him and it's cool to see he's still active in the industry and involved in funding Indie games now.

 

[Elijin]

crossplay just means your friend doesn't have to buy the same console as you for you both to be able to play together online.

That's why I think Sony aren't interested in crossplay.

oh that's exactly why they aren't interested.

but how'd being anti consumer work out the last for ya Sony with that stupid $600 PS3 price tag? they had a shitty start to gen 7 because of their anti consumerism. all it does is just piss people off.

That's not why Sony is against cross-play, WolvDragon posted a link (in the other thread) on why Sony prefers not to have cross-play, which is because they don't wanna compete with other online stores (like Live) for microtransactions on skins and whatnot, which Sony makes far more money on than the sales of PS4 hardware.

You know that's the same argument, right? They dont want to share sales. If they allow cross play, people can remain on the Xbox and buy it from Xbox. If they dont, people who want to play with PS4 friends need to get on PS4 and buy that content on PS4. Like, owning the hardware doesnt magically transfer your game library, or allow you unlimited access to all PS4 content.

 

[Lufia Erim]

i can't see a reason other than that to do it other than Good PR. And Lord knows Microsoft needs the PR. That is literally the only reason they are doing it.

that's probably true, but who care's why they're doing it? the fact that are doing it is amazing.


a decade or two ago all 3 of the console hardware companies were all way too stubborn to ever consider doing such a thing. it's nice to see them ease up on that.

The "why" is just as important as the " what". They are doing it because they are desperate to get consumer approval. Which from what i can see is working. Don't get me wrong, cross play is nice, but dont forget the motivation behind it is not likely because they are the " good guys".

If anything it's like the shady guy giving away candy to children from his white van .

honestly i don't give a shit at all about why they do it. all i care about is that it's actually happening and benefiting us the consumers.

Do you think Nintendo tries all their console & controller innovations because they give a shit about us? or that Sony & MS are trying to do out do each other by making a more powerful console than the other company because they want to be our friend?

obviously the answer to both of those questions is no. at the end of the day, all 3 of those big corporations only give a shit about making profits by selling lots of consoles & software.

their motivations for doing things are irrelevant to me. i just want to play fun games that i enjoy and also experience new & better ways of playing games. that's why i play Nintendo games. not because i think they're my friend.

You do understand , that's exactly how we got to the whole " lootbox" situation we are in now right? Because people didn't give a shit and just wanted nice shiny things. But whatever, people never learn.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

You know that's the same argument, right? They dont want to share sales. If they allow cross play, people can remain on the Xbox and buy it from Xbox. If they dont, people who want to play with PS4 friends need to get on PS4 and buy that content on PS4. Like, owning the hardware doesnt magically transfer your game library, or allow you unlimited access to all PS4 content.

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying there. Sony doesn't like the idea of someone playing Fortnite on PS4 and using a skin they bought via Xbox Live.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-19-ex-sony-dev-says-ps4-console-cross-platform-block-is-all-about-the-money
"In the context of Fortnite, this would mean Sony doesn't like the idea of a player on Xbox buying a character skin via Xbox Live (and in the process handing Microsoft a 30 per cent cut of the revenue), then logging in to the PS4 version and being able to use that same skin on their persistent, cross-platform character when playing the game on Sony's console."

 

[Elijin]

You know that's the same argument, right? They dont want to share sales. If they allow cross play, people can remain on the Xbox and buy it from Xbox. If they dont, people who want to play with PS4 friends need to get on PS4 and buy that content on PS4. Like, owning the hardware doesnt magically transfer your game library, or allow you unlimited access to all PS4 content.

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying there. Sony doesn't like the idea of someone playing Fortnite on PS4 and using a skin they bought via Xbox Live.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-19-ex-sony-dev-says-ps4-console-cross-platform-block-is-all-about-the-money
"In the context of Fortnite, this would mean Sony doesn't like the idea of a player on Xbox buying a character skin via Xbox Live (and in the process handing Microsoft a 30 per cent cut of the revenue), then logging in to the PS4 version and being able to use that same skin on their persistent, cross-platform character when playing the game on Sony's console."

So what you're saying is...

You know that's the same argument, right? They dont want to share sales. If they allow cross play, people can remain on the Xbox and buy it from Xbox. If they dont, people who want to play with PS4 friends need to get on PS4 and buy that content on PS4. Like, owning the hardware doesnt magically transfer your game library, or allow you unlimited access to all PS4 content.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

You know that's the same argument, right? They dont want to share sales. If they allow cross play, people can remain on the Xbox and buy it from Xbox. If they dont, people who want to play with PS4 friends need to get on PS4 and buy that content on PS4. Like, owning the hardware doesnt magically transfer your game library, or allow you unlimited access to all PS4 content.

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying there. Sony doesn't like the idea of someone playing Fortnite on PS4 and using a skin they bought via Xbox Live.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-19-ex-sony-dev-says-ps4-console-cross-platform-block-is-all-about-the-money
"In the context of Fortnite, this would mean Sony doesn't like the idea of a player on Xbox buying a character skin via Xbox Live (and in the process handing Microsoft a 30 per cent cut of the revenue), then logging in to the PS4 version and being able to use that same skin on their persistent, cross-platform character when playing the game on Sony's console."

So what you're saying is...

You know that's the same argument, right? They dont want to share sales. If they allow cross play, people can remain on the Xbox and buy it from Xbox. If they dont, people who want to play with PS4 friends need to get on PS4 and buy that content on PS4. Like, owning the hardware doesnt magically transfer your game library, or allow you unlimited access to all PS4 content.

I mainly didn't quite get what you're saying because I'm not quite getting your wording. I don't think Sony is against friends from 2 different platforms playing together, which was what I was responding to. It's about Sony not wanting someone that bought something in a game on say PC to then hop on their PS4 play that game and use that already purchased content. From the article, it's not about forcing people to get a PS4 to play with PS4 friends, but not to miss out on the sweet sweet microtransaction cut. If say Fortnite was just game you paid for and had nothing additional you could buy, Sony would be fine with cross-play and also not locking people's Epic accounts to PS4.

 

[Yoshi178]

So are we going to be getting a thread fellating Nintendo for every trailer they put out now?

i make 1 thread about a crossplay trailer and all of sudden that mean's i make thread for every trailer Nintendo puts out?

i'd love to know how you came to that ridiculous conclusion.

 

[Mothro]

This is a win for Microsoft and it's kind of sickening to me. They have found a way to get people on PC, Xbox and Switch to log into their online service. Of course Sony wants nothing to do with that.