Nintendo - Time Is Running Out

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Atticus89

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Bhaalspawn said:
If I was a game developer, I'd say to my fans "If you don't like it, you shouldn't have bought the game, go cry to someone else. You have no sympathy from me."
"Yeah, how dare you not know how a game was going to end on launch day! Who in their right mind knows they're going to not enjoy what they just bought? That's like ordering your favorite dish at a restaurant and then being sad when it tastes bad: sure you had high hopes but it's you own damn fault for not anticipating that it could be bad. What the hell is wrong you? You'll get no refund from me because of your idiocy and lack of insight!"
 

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A couple of months ago I saw a little girl, probably 7-8, begging her mum for Ocarina of Time on the 3DS. My young nephew is also obessed with his DS, and my other nephews and nieces always want to play mine. And one time at a restaurant I saw another little girl with her head in the DS/3DS.

They market games to kids, not to adults. They're doing the smart thing. They're in it for the long term, while Microsoft and Sony must create a wave and stay afloat to remain relevant. There's always going to be kids interested in cartoon graphics and fuzzy characters.

All they need to do is create more good games, preferably using new IP.
 

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Personally, I have to agree with the original post. No offense to the well-made points about market values and sales numbers, but Nintendo is indeed failing. The fact that last year they posted their first ever year of losses is NOT a good sgin. Clearly, numbers are down. No matter how many or how few times that has happened before, it's not good. I agree. My gameboy color taught me to read through Pokemon Blue. My sister taught me to be a gamer through Star Fox 64 and Mario Kart 64. I came into the gamer community through my gamecube. Now, what has Nintendo done for us lately? Blatant grasps at former glories in the Mario and Zelda series, never quite reaching the level of even respectable. They've all but abandoned the series many old fans grew up loving, like Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, etc., or handed them over to 3rd party developers who don't know how to carry on the plots or gameplay. Now we're promised a new system that still only confirms more Mario (honestly, I'm sick of he being the only character they market; yeah, he's "Mr. Nintendo," but 10 terrible Mario games a year is unneeded and stupid) and little else. Oh, we've confirmed a new Pikmin and an Assasin's Creed installment. Unfortunately, it's too late. In America, at least, the fan-base, speaking from one who desperately wants the company to succeed and held-on to the "hope boat" as long as I could, is tired and disinterested. The controls on the systems keep regressing to mere gimmicks, the games lack originality, and Sony and Microsoft are just better at making games now. I wish it wasn't the case. But those that say Nintendo is fine didn't grow up only on Nintendo, and aren't the ones who are most upset to see it ignore its fans while marketing bad new entries while asking you to remember the glory days.
 

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I was going to make a big post, but most everything that needs to be said has been said. There is plenty of data saying that Nintendo is doing better then the other gaming companies. Why do you people seem to think that they are about to crash and burn? It seems some of you are using your own personal opinions as facts. Just because you feel Nintendo isn't doing good doesn't mean they aren't. They have recorded their first yearly loss ever. EVER! One bad year does not mean they will crash and burn. They have been in the gaming market for 30+ years, one bad year does not mean the end of the world. The other companies have had several bad years when it comes to their gaming department. If anyone will crash and burn it will be those guys.
 

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When it boils down to it, the only reason why people started to move away from Nintendo was the lack of 3rd party gaming, coupled with the stagnation of their flagship series.

With the Wii U, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo make a comeback, simply because you'll be able to play the 3rd party games everyone else with a PC/Xbox/PS3 can, but you also get access to Zelda, Mario etc.

Not to mention their back catalog, which in of itself is impressive.

I don't see Nintendo dying off soon, and I believe this topic is extremely premature.
 

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ohnoitsabear said:
My only concern for Nintendo right now is that, hardware wise, they seem to be designing the WiiU to compete with current gen consoles, and not what's coming next, which would just put them in the same boat as they are right now with the Wii, where it's dramatically underpowered compared to the competition. Hopefully, this fear is not justified, but we will have to wait and see.
I wouldn't say that. If you've played games which show the Wii at it's best, usually with it's core IP games, you'll notice that the Wii's capabilities are on par with the rest of the current generation. The real problem with the Wii is that they rarely make games that tax the Wii's capabilities to it's limit, even when their doing a cross platform game, and that the Wii's motion controls are just plain awful, the Wiimote's responsiveness is poor and they have yet to use the Wiimote in ways that the plain old controller we've been using forever couldn't do better.
 

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a7xman said:
Personally, I have to agree with the original post. No offense to the well-made points about market values and sales numbers, but Nintendo is indeed failing. The fact that last year they posted their first ever year of losses is NOT a good sgin. Clearly, numbers are down. No matter how many or how few times that has happened before, it's not good. I agree. My gameboy color taught me to read through Pokemon Blue. My sister taught me to be a gamer through Star Fox 64 and Mario Kart 64. I came into the gamer community through my gamecube. Now, what has Nintendo done for us lately? Blatant grasps at former glories in the Mario and Zelda series, never quite reaching the level of even respectable. They've all but abandoned the series many old fans grew up loving, like Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, etc., or handed them over to 3rd party developers who don't know how to carry on the plots or gameplay. Now we're promised a new system that still only confirms more Mario (honestly, I'm sick of he being the only character they market; yeah, he's "Mr. Nintendo," but 10 terrible Mario games a year is unneeded and stupid) and little else. Oh, we've confirmed a new Pikmin and an Assasin's Creed installment. Unfortunately, it's too late. In America, at least, the fan-base, speaking from one who desperately wants the company to succeed and held-on to the "hope boat" as long as I could, is tired and disinterested. The controls on the systems keep regressing to mere gimmicks, the games lack originality, and Sony and Microsoft are just better at making games now. I wish it wasn't the case. But those that say Nintendo is fine didn't grow up only on Nintendo, and aren't the ones who are most upset to see it ignore its fans while marketing bad new entries while asking you to remember the glory days.
I agree with the OP and this^. It's true that the first time ever loss does not equal Nintendo is soon to die, but it doesn't help. In fact, after Nintendo's best days in the NES/SNES era, they have been dying a slow death due to a lack of any real ability to make any games worth playing that aren't their core IPs. Nintendo's been making very little other than shovelware since the N64 days, doing somewhat better during the Gamecube run but still doing pretty terribly overall. Unless Nintendo gets their heads out of their rear ends and starts making worthwhile games a majority on their systems, they will die, bit by bit, it's just a question of how long it'll take. Those people saying that Nintendo will be fine just don't notice just how much they've been sucking the last decade or so.

Captcha: have an inkling

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ThePenguinKnight

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I just replied to a similar thread so I'll just reply with the same comment, or one like it.

Nintendo fans ask for more of the same, and Nintendo delivers. They make a ton of money off of these rehashes and I don't see Nintendo falling apart anytime soon because of it. The sales they'll no doubt see from fans of Wii will sell them out for months.
 

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Nintendo has to tread carefully in their pursuit of the casual market IMO.

Will people like my Mom be getting a Wii-U? Or will she just play stuff on her iPhone and facebook? Will the handheld market maintain relevancy while cellphones are evolving at a rapid rate?

I'm not saying the two are mutually exclusive; but she's not going to be out on launch day lining up in the cold of winter to get her hands on the next Nintendo console.

This all being said, I really do like Nintendo. I enjoy their games a lot, and I hope they can stay in the gaming market. Though, if the WiiU is a knock-out success like the Wii they'll be fine. Their stock prices tend to fluxuate up and down in between console generations as they do now; but it's far more pronounced though as the wii was probably the most successful venture for the company in history. Hence the fall from their huge market cap a few years ago looks much worse than usual.
 

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Theminimanx said:
How exactly can a quarterly loss kill a company if the losses are balanced out by the profits from the rest of the year? Unless you manage to lose all your money in a single quarter, that's not going to happen. And need I remind you of the ENORMOUS pile of money Nintendo is sitting on?
PLEASE tell me this simplistic view of economics is devil's advocacy.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
No_Remainders said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Indecipherable said:
basically [sic] it's just your unresearched, non-cited[sic] opinion.
Yeah. It is. That's kind of, like, the whole point. I shared my thoughts and asked what you guys think. Sorry, were you expecting something else? Lol.
Eh... I'm just curious about this.

Do you know what "sic" means? Just wondering, because you're doing it wrong.

Regardless, while I've never held any love for Nintendo outside of the Pokemon games, I don't think they're quite done yet. They're still one of the biggest companies when it comes to gaming, and I think they'll keep churning out old and familiar things until people realise that innovation isn't really a bad thing and finally turn against Nintendo for not making anything really interesting for several years.
They spelled words wrong and misused grammar. I used sic as I was quoting them, but not making the mistakes myself.
They didn't spell anything wrong, and the only mistake that was made was not capitalising "basically".

Please, stop trying to point things out that aren't actually wrong.
 

ChildishLegacy

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If only there were some sort of country or area of countries that really favored nintendo's products? Hmm... Maybe somewhere that isn't English speaking that all of us English speakers seem to forget that it exists.

Edit: The captcha gave me a brand logo that i'd never seen before, so i just typed in "whut?" and it posted anyway.
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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No_Remainders said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
No_Remainders said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Indecipherable said:
basically [sic] it's just your unresearched, non-cited[sic] opinion.
Yeah. It is. That's kind of, like, the whole point. I shared my thoughts and asked what you guys think. Sorry, were you expecting something else? Lol.
Eh... I'm just curious about this.

Do you know what "sic" means? Just wondering, because you're doing it wrong.

Regardless, while I've never held any love for Nintendo outside of the Pokemon games, I don't think they're quite done yet. They're still one of the biggest companies when it comes to gaming, and I think they'll keep churning out old and familiar things until people realise that innovation isn't really a bad thing and finally turn against Nintendo for not making anything really interesting for several years.
They spelled words wrong and misused grammar. I used sic as I was quoting them, but not making the mistakes myself.
They didn't spell anything wrong, and the only mistake that was made was not capitalising "basically".

Please, stop trying to point things out that aren't actually wrong.
A) Don't bring up old threads. Ever.

B) Basically wasn't capitalized, correct. Thus, a sic, as I didn't make the mistake. Pretty simple stuff.

C) "Non-cited" isn't anything like good English and certainly not a hyphened word.

Now, let the thread return to the bottom and refrain from doing that again.