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A character in my Exalted game is a gun-wielding (plasma tongue repeater), power-armor (Gunzosha armor) wearing sorcerer that use a flying surf (Windblade-Class Personal Transport) to move around in a fantasy setting. The trappings of the sorcerer's constellation in Sidereal astrology is to wear an armor and a big sword. Sorcerers in Exalted are the ones with magical knowledge so they're the ones who know how to make magical items. They can also cast spells.
Spells in Exalted don't work as in DnD. Spells are not good in combat. They take a lot of time and preparation like in most stories. They also do wonderful things like having a pet elemental for a month, transforming the caster's body in a robot full of hidden weapons or a flight of birds, making acid rain in an area for a whole night and nuking an area in a pillar of green fire.
Spells in Exalted don't work as in DnD. Spells are not good in combat. They take a lot of time and preparation like in most stories. They also do wonderful things like having a pet elemental for a month, transforming the caster's body in a robot full of hidden weapons or a flight of birds, making acid rain in an area for a whole night and nuking an area in a pillar of green fire.
Oh my god! What the hell is that? That looks like a mage who can't decide if he's the Joker, a jester or someone who had waaay too much fun at Mardi Gras! And I'll be damned if it doesn't look like he's an elf to boot. Figures. Elves are messed up.Gottesstrafe said:And boy don't you know itmeganmeave said:
I think character designers are just playing a joke on us at this point.
Because as we know metal is far more prone to melting than cloth is to burning.jonyboy13 said:
OT: Robes look cooler imo (trousers ect, look boring), but like some people pointed out, some games do let you have variation.
what about TES IV,s battle mages? the only thing they wear from the old style robes are the hoods
also maybe the armor detract,s to much from the spell casting
also maybe the armor detract,s to much from the spell casting
Think of it this way: All the powerful enchanted clothes are likely to have been created by powerful mage organizations, and they're likely to have used their silly uniforms to do it. So if you want the most powerful enchantments on your clothes, you're gonna have to steal somebody's dress to get 'em.
Other than that, I see no real reason why mages shouldn't be allowed to wear pants and even lighter armors like leather. It's not like rouges in these games turn into super-tanks just because they can wear pants. Seriously, what kind of idiot would run around a battlefield wearing a great big billowy dress that hangs all the way to the ground. That's just dumb.
Other than that, I see no real reason why mages shouldn't be allowed to wear pants and even lighter armors like leather. It's not like rouges in these games turn into super-tanks just because they can wear pants. Seriously, what kind of idiot would run around a battlefield wearing a great big billowy dress that hangs all the way to the ground. That's just dumb.
Actually he just comes from a JRPG (no surprise there)meganmeave said:Oh my god! What the hell is that? That looks like a mage who can't decide if he's the Joker, a jester or someone who had waaay too much fun at Mardi Gras! And I'll be damned if it doesn't look like he's an elf to boot. Figures. Elves are messed up.Gottesstrafe said:And boy don't you know itmeganmeave said:
I think character designers are just playing a joke on us at this point.
Still, he's one of my favorite mages purely because all he ever does is troll every Final Fantasy protagonist.
More of a balancing issue really, a man can conjure an ocean of fire from his finger tips AND wear armor that protects him from massive amounts of physical damage? That isn't a bit unfair to anyone?
Why does Kuja not wear any pants? Insanity! He has more hair than clothing!Gottesstrafe said:Actually he just comes from a JRPG (no surprise there)
Still, he's one of my favorite mages purely because all he ever does is troll every Final Fantasy protagonist.
He would benefit greatly from my pants revolution, even though I suspect he's a pantless warrior. It's been a while since I played FFIX, I can't remember what Kuja used.
Logically, a mage is not going to be on the front line. It would be a waste to produce armor catering to them, as would it be a waste for them to seek to acquire it. The school of magicks they know are more often than not obtained via studying. And with the countless hours they have poured into these tombs, they missed the opportunity to craft their bodies into some Greek statue.
Lighten armor? Sure. But they're only magic. Magic is a reality in their universe. If they lighten the armor so it is easier for them to wear, then it's also going to be less effective. The sort of reality bending paradoxes in fantasy universe, the sort of force capable of creating impenetrable armor that is light as a feather, that's something left to the "gods". A mage simply doesn't reach that level. And when they are at that level, they're probably wielding magic capable of leveling a small continent every time they blink, so they don't really need the armor.
And sure, it's not that hard to wear light armor. But just because the mage is going to be fine in light armor doesn't make that armor more effective against the legions of musclebound adversaries. If the mage isn't going to be properly equipped for mass physical onslaught he's about to face, he shouldn't be bothering with armor at all.
So, why robes? Because the robes are typically the uniform of scholars. Not mages specifically, but any of the studious sort in a fantasy setting. The ivory towers are filled with these men in robes, and the mage is no different than them. Just because the mage's pursuit of knowledge has given him powers doesn't mean he no longer identifies as a pursuer of education. That, and it's easier to enchant cloth than metal because it's less dense.
It's hard to do, but you have to apply "reality" to the magicks. Not our reality, but the game/setting's reality. Yes, the mage has access to numerous spells and powers. But he's not a god and their are higher forces. Random revivals and constantly sewing up wounds isn't as easy as just "curaga!!". If you can accept mage's having those dumb powers, then you can accept that they just don't wear armor because they like dresses. Otherwise, step back and think about it logically. Wearing armor is simply not something the typical wizard needs to do. And if he does, that's why there's battlemages.
Lighten armor? Sure. But they're only magic. Magic is a reality in their universe. If they lighten the armor so it is easier for them to wear, then it's also going to be less effective. The sort of reality bending paradoxes in fantasy universe, the sort of force capable of creating impenetrable armor that is light as a feather, that's something left to the "gods". A mage simply doesn't reach that level. And when they are at that level, they're probably wielding magic capable of leveling a small continent every time they blink, so they don't really need the armor.
And sure, it's not that hard to wear light armor. But just because the mage is going to be fine in light armor doesn't make that armor more effective against the legions of musclebound adversaries. If the mage isn't going to be properly equipped for mass physical onslaught he's about to face, he shouldn't be bothering with armor at all.
So, why robes? Because the robes are typically the uniform of scholars. Not mages specifically, but any of the studious sort in a fantasy setting. The ivory towers are filled with these men in robes, and the mage is no different than them. Just because the mage's pursuit of knowledge has given him powers doesn't mean he no longer identifies as a pursuer of education. That, and it's easier to enchant cloth than metal because it's less dense.
It's hard to do, but you have to apply "reality" to the magicks. Not our reality, but the game/setting's reality. Yes, the mage has access to numerous spells and powers. But he's not a god and their are higher forces. Random revivals and constantly sewing up wounds isn't as easy as just "curaga!!". If you can accept mage's having those dumb powers, then you can accept that they just don't wear armor because they like dresses. Otherwise, step back and think about it logically. Wearing armor is simply not something the typical wizard needs to do. And if he does, that's why there's battlemages.
I'd just be grateful if he wore anything. It makes for an uncomfortable monologue when he floats around in your face at eye level *shudder*meganmeave said:Why does Kuja not wear any pants? Insanity! He has more hair than clothing!Gottesstrafe said:Actually he just comes from a JRPG (no surprise there)
Still, he's one of my favorite mages purely because all he ever does is troll every Final Fantasy protagonist.
He would benefit greatly from my pants revolution, even though I suspect he's a pantless warrior. It's been a while since I played FFIX, I can't remember what Kuja used.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of Urdnot Wrex beating people up with his four testicles.meganmeave said:
http://www.allwallpapersites.com/wallpapers/game-wallpapers-12/wallpaper/mass_effect,_urdnot_wrex,_krogan_battle_master.jpg
Biotics. It's magic!
Visual diversity? Much easier to distinguish characters in a battlefield if they're visually distinct.
I dunno. Doesn't really matter anyway. I don't care about armour in games anyway. Better to vanquish your foes in your skivvies, much more humiliating!
[sub]For everyone.[/sub]
I dunno. Doesn't really matter anyway. I don't care about armour in games anyway. Better to vanquish your foes in your skivvies, much more humiliating!
[sub]For everyone.[/sub]
When you can fry your enemies before they can even get close enough to be any actual threat, why the hell would you even bother wearing armor?
If we are talking in D&D terms, mages CAN use armor, heavy 2... The thing is that you get Arcane Spell Failure Check. But some armors like the Mithral ones and the Masterworks (I think) reduce the check drastically... Mages are already overpowered as they are... Weak at the start and impossible to beat later on.
Hey, I like my billowing robes of epic pastel colorings. When I'm conjuring up a windstorm to destroy your entire village, I want my hair and robe both to flow in that wind. It looks epic and it feels epic.
Besides. Any smart magi will be wearing pants underneath the robe.
Anyway. As others have already pointed it, it would kinda ruin the party dynamic. Not to mention diminish some of the challenge of playing such a character. I feel the point of it is to make sure you kill something before it can reach you or expect to be killed really quickly. At least that's what I've come to accept about it. Also, mages are typically scholarly people, and the historical stereotype we have is that ye olde scholars went around in robes.
I like 'em, though. They're fancy.
As for the other types of fantasies I'd squash: Pasty, fair-haired, fair-skinned Elven women that look like tall boys. If Elves are supposed to be such people of the wilderness and woods, I'd expect them to look more like they've had a hard day's work.
Besides. Any smart magi will be wearing pants underneath the robe.
Anyway. As others have already pointed it, it would kinda ruin the party dynamic. Not to mention diminish some of the challenge of playing such a character. I feel the point of it is to make sure you kill something before it can reach you or expect to be killed really quickly. At least that's what I've come to accept about it. Also, mages are typically scholarly people, and the historical stereotype we have is that ye olde scholars went around in robes.
I like 'em, though. They're fancy.
As for the other types of fantasies I'd squash: Pasty, fair-haired, fair-skinned Elven women that look like tall boys. If Elves are supposed to be such people of the wilderness and woods, I'd expect them to look more like they've had a hard day's work.
