No Dubstep in gaming

[Carnagath]

"Brostep", however, is all about Wobble Bass, and it's mostly thanks to Skrillex that this subgenre has become popular.

I don't like Skrillex too much, he uses vocals almost always and I personally prefer that kind of music when it's "instrumental". Still, he is a fucking amazing person and one of the most modest people in the industry. I mean, seriously, the guy announced his latest EP with a message on his facebook page saying "happy holidays just like I promised.... just like i always say, go pirate it if you don't have money..i just want you to have it." It's a miracle that no record label has hired a hitman to whack him yet.

 

[Pebblig]

One reason is that while huma sex is not allowed on Youtube, there are a lot of animal mating videos on it, and people blame the furries.
Dubstep suckt vo dood, stop et i jen ol.

What the shit were you actually trying to say? xD I read what you wrote and it actually made me laugh. I'd like to take everything you post out of context, then put it all on one page in a long incomprehensible string of ramblings.


This is one of my favourite bands at the moment, the video is class too.

 

[ryuksapple]

Blah blah blah.

A lot of people like it... get over it and get on with your lives rather than trying to crusade against something that you don't like.

Guess what everyone who is super-anti-dubstep? Skrillex made more money last year than most of you will every make in your entire lives. I hate most pop and most modern music in general, but I respect the artists and their ability to make music that appeals to the masses.

First off, what is there to crusade against except for things you don't like?

Secondly, since when was money a measure of talent or artistic ability. For example, Rebecca Black made more money than many Indy bands out there. That doesn't in any way make her more talented. As far as making art that appeals to the masses, I don't know if that should really even be considered a good thing. The role of art in culture is to channel the artists expression into something that challenges society, strongly held beliefs, or at the very least makes a cultural statement. Those goals often run in the opposite direction of appealing to the masses. I can respect their prowess as businessmen, but not necessarily as artists.

 

[Suave Charlie]

Dubstep should not exist. Period.

There is no place for it in an intelligent civilisation. It is ear grinding, brain-grating NOISE. Hacks with no talent plagarise half decent music and then mutiliate it with their cat-scraped-along-the-road-by-an-18-wheeler soundboard, combined with... I'm genuinely not sure what it IS.

Dubstep should not exist. Period.

How can I be as mature as you?!

 

[Jazoni89]

"Brostep", however, is all about Wobble Bass, and it's mostly thanks to Skrillex that this subgenre has become popular.

I don't like Skrillex too much, he uses vocals almost always and I personally prefer that kind of music when it's "instrumental". Still, he is a fucking amazing person and one of the most modest people in the industry. I mean, seriously, the guy announced his latest EP with a message on his facebook page saying "happy holidays just like I promised.... just like i always say, go pirate it if you don't have money..i just want you to have it." It's a miracle that no record label has hired a hitman to whack him yet.

Even if he does look like a total dork...this is your messiah wubstep kiddies!

Spoiler

...Yeah... I'm not the one for looks, but he's a total joke. Shaved long hair, and fat rimmed glasses is not a good look at all in my personal opinion, and it boggles the mind how he presents himself like that in the musical spotlight.

Though, as they say, it's only the music that counts... am I right? Shame that I don't really like it that much.

 

[Warforger]

That may be the crappiest youtube video I have ever seen.

Erm you must be living in some sheltered life where every youtube video you see is all the product of years of production by a tech company because even if it insulted Metal and rap fans to an extent it is pretty well done, I doubt you cam get too many videos with the same quality.

 

[Richard Keohane]

Point is, id like to keep dubstep out of atleast one of these things (preferably anime and gaming. I know there is no dubstep in anime yet but you never know)

I think that certain genres of music just don't lend themselves to fitting into games.

Dubstep is highly erratic music, so I can't see it fitting into games. It has a really inconsistent rhythm. As well, any music with lyrics has trouble fitting into a game. It can really only go into the intro music, and even then it really has to be an RPG, otherwise it'll feel out of place.

However, I don't think dubstep should NEVER be used in games. Deus Ex II used a song in a dance club that had lyrics and that was spot on. It was music you'd expect to hear at a club, and it worked perfectly. Dubstep I feel should be used similarly. It should be used where it works well, not because a focus group thinks that their target demographic likes dubstep.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

A debate about dubstep on the Escapist. This is what we as a website have become. Oh lawdy, what an utter, utter, disgrace.

Dubstep is shit. I agree. The only game I've had to include dubstep in itself is Saints Row: The Third. Even then, I just change the radio station to something else. So, there's that.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

First off, what is there to crusade against except for things you don't like?

The real question is, "Why do you feel the need to crusade in the first place?"

Secondly, since when was money a measure of talent or artistic ability. For example, Rebecca Black made more money than many Indy bands out there. That doesn't in any way make her more talented. As far as making art that appeals to the masses, I don't know if that should really even be considered a good thing. The role of art in culture is to channel the artists expression into something that challenges society, strongly held beliefs, or at the very least makes a cultural statement. Those goals often run in the opposite direction of appealing to the masses. I can respect their prowess as businessmen, but not necessarily as artists.

It's kind of offensive of you to compare Rebecca Black to some of the good dubstep artists out there. It shows that you really don't understand music, especially not electronic music.

Rebecca Black went into a studio and sang shitty for like an hour and then she left the studio and went home while other people tried their hardest to make her sound good. People like Skrillex spend days tweaking midi instruments to find the perfect harmonic synths through resonance and cutoff adjustments and tweak the LFO just right to get that perfect wobble that you hear. To ignore the creativity and talent involved is just, well, plain ignorant.

I've been making electronic music and playing guitar for a good decade now as well as teaching intermediate music theory, and I can safely say that I emote just as much through my electronic music as I do through my guitar. Making music on the computer is like shaping clay or painting a picture in that you keep working at it and making adjustments until it feels right. Listen to "With Your Friends" by Skrillex and tell me it's not artistic.

Tell you what, here's a dubstep song I made by sampling a shitty guitar riff I played. It's not groundbreaking or amazing, but I think it's alright. Even if it's the worst song in the world, it doesn't matter, if dubstep takes no talent to make, you should be able to make a song just as good or better. There are plenty of free DAW's out there, I dare you to download one and make something better than this.


You can't.

I've been working in Fruity Loops for years and I still am awed by how flawless and perfectly made some of the best dubstep songs are. I understand if you don't like it, but it's offensive to call us talentless just because you don't know what your talking about.

You're just as bad as the people who called rock soulless and "hate" music.
You're just as bad as the people who called funk the death of jazz.
You're just as bad as the people who called jazz the butchering of classical instruments.
You're just as bad as Roger Ebert.

Edit: There's also some Radiohead song I sampled, but I forget what its called.

 

[shurikenshado4]

How do i reply?

I'm tolerant of most genres of music. Things like Rap, Metal and D und B. Its just that Dubstep is like borderline between music and autotuned flatulence. If people are going to be adding dubstep into games, atleast provide alternatives aswell. Like i said b4, i play games to discover new songs and artists.

 

[Lieutenant Larceny]

Why does it bother you so much? I hate Justin Bieber, but wouldn't go to Youtube asking his videos to be taken down simply because they don't suit my taste. You're like a vocal conservative, demanding students pray in schools or gays be stoned or whatever they're blathering on about now. Just grin and bear it, it doesn't matter. As long as it's applied tastefully and good songs are picked, it'll be the same anyway.

 

[crystalsnow]

Honestly, to me dubstep just sounds like a crappier version of techno.

 

[Sylveria]

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Addendum:

Thing is in many games, i play to discover new music like with Burnout 3 and SSX 3 (Those were amazing soundtracks) so if i were to find dubstep everywhere i go, it would be too much for me (im not sure what i would do)

Well, maybe try playing games to enjoy the games, and if you want to discover new music go to last.fm or Pandora, no?

That's rather small minded. Sounds to me like you're saying the music in games isn't part of the gaming experience.

 

[ZeroMachine]

How do i reply?

I'm tolerant of most genres of music. Things like Rap, Metal and D und B. Its just that Dubstep is like borderline between music and autotuned flatulence. If people are going to be adding dubstep into games, atleast provide alternatives aswell. Like i said b4, i play games to discover new songs and artists.

Then maybe take this opportunity to discover dubstep that you can enjoy.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

My only thing with dubstep is that it's called dubstep...wasn't it just called electronica a few years ago? You know, back before steam replaced cyber when it came to punks? Other than that I don't see why there's so much hate for it. It isn't inherently bad or anything but I understand how popular it is to vocally dislike popular things.

 

[J Tyran]

Its a long description so ill just cut to the chase. Keep Dubstep out of gaming. Idc if people enjoy it. Just enjoy it elsewhere.

Indeed.
I'd also like to add the following to the list:

Classical music (i.e. Beethoven, Baach etc.)
80's electro pop
Anything that has ever been on the billboard top 100
Punk, Post Punk, Punk Rock
Rock, Hard Rock
Rap, Gangsta Rap, R&B
Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Death Metal and Trash Metal
Pop music

I don't care if people enjoy it, I demand that it be kept out of my games.
They can always enjoy it somewhere else.

Also, I'd like to ban anime from all TV stations and most torrent sites.
I don't care if people enjoy it, they can always enjoy it somewhere else, no?

This is a great idea, I too want anything I dislike kept out of my games. People can always enjoy it elsewhere. To be serious though, if the OP dislikes dubstep enough he shouldn't buy games with dubstep in the soundtrack.

That way if enough people hate it and avoid games that have it the developers might stop using it.

 

[Bealzibob]

I don't know if you know this but it already has as Skrillex has been doing the soundtrack for the upcoming Syndicate. (Ninja'd it seems)

But on matters of good dubstep, it gaming has always been hand in hand really. There pretty much isn't a gaming song that hasn't got a dubstep remix and the zelda ones are becoming increasing good.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

Railworks dubstep, can anyone surpass this?

As much as I don't like this type of dubstep, this is made of pure, liquid win from concentrate. I haven't laughed this hard in front of my computer in a good while.

DIS SHIT BE OFF DA RAILZ, YO!

 

[SamFancyPants252]

There you go.

And this is what kids listen to these days? And people still hate rap music? Color me confused .

Heavens, no !
This is what CERTAIN PEOPLE (including myself) listen to. Dubstep, Grime, Aggro & stuff aren't mainstream, never were, never will be. It's just one of countless genres that emerge, become somewhat famous and then dissolve into nothingness.

Oh, and some example...
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woah there tiger, if you're under the impression that dubstep isn't extremely mainstream, then you're most horribly wrong. At least here in Australia, it is played on the radio all the time and if there's someone who hasn't heard of Skrillex, Rusko, Borgore and the like then they've been living under some sort of rock.

OT: I think dubstep as a classification of genre is far too wide for this topic. I mean, dubstep is quite literally an evolution of the two step genre, which is just two beats. So any song that goes dum tss dum tss at that particular tempo is technically dubstep. I think someone above me linked Rock N Roll by Skrillex, which is not a good example because it's a different tempo.

What I'm trying to say is, that stoner dubstep which is all about wobbles and bass lines is completely different to the 'brostep' that Skrillex and Zomboy and the like make.

Both stoner dubstep and brostep and everything inbetween would fit into games, as long as it fits the tone.