No Game ever deserves 10/10... Do you agree?

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CTU_Agent24

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I was looking at the reviews of GTA 4 and MGS 4 and some (not all) reviews game them 5 stars or 10/10. Why?

For a game to get 10/10 it should have to be absolutely perfect with no faults. I love GTA 4 and MGS 4 (Great Games) but they are NOT perfect. GTA has flaws in its combat and cover, MGS game play is be no means perfect... Why give 10?

Think of The original Perfect Dark for N64. An awesome game which received 9.9 and 9.8 in most reviews... That?s an appropriate score. It was a great game but was still not perfect...

My opinion... What do you think?
 

Anomynous 167

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Agreed. If anyflaw is mentioned in a review, then don't give it a 10/10 no matter what (Even if it has other features that try to make up for it)
 

Lord Krunk

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Honestly, you're making threads like crazy.

There is no "perfect game," but Morrowind, Psychonauts and the combined Orange Box got awfully close.
 

chaostheory

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A 10 out of 10 should only represent that it is the best game in it's genre that has ever been seen up to that time period.

Personaly I feel a more effective way of establishing the quality of a game relative to other games is to have a constantly updating list of games where the higher the game is on the list the higher quality the game in the reviewer's opinion. Please note that I realize the headach making such a list would cause so you do not need to tell me how inefficiant it would be.
 

Fire Daemon

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No there shouldn't be a game that is given a 10/10. A score of 10 says that everyone who plays this game will enjoy it and I don't think that everyone can enjoy a single game.
 

williamjg

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though no game is perfect i would say games deserve ten to make people go and buy them you know. i mean example wouldnt half life 2 been better if you had the freedom of the whole of city 17 to escape from/skirmish in? but people use that game as like an perfect example of what an fps should be.
another much better example of what i mean is the new alone in the dark. it has so many revolutionary and new ideas in it that to me it deserves a ten for effort alone. if it got straight tens would you have gone out and bought it? i think most people would. and what that would in turn do is encourage developers to think out side the box and make more interesting games.
so i belive that no game is perfect but perfect score should be given if innovation and interesting design are in play
 

PurpleRain

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EDIT: Slow computer today.

I believe some games do deserve the 10/10 title if they are fun and have stood up to their hype. But like all things, this is just a matter of opinion. One person may find it to the greatest game to date, while another might find it overhyped. Person A will argue with person B and internet flame wars ensue. Yay.
 

jezz8me

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I have heard many flaws about morrowind which makes it imperfect. Because games are subjective they cannot be perfect.
 

Jack Spencer Jr

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CTU_Agent24 said:
For a game to get 10/10 it should have to be absolutely perfect with no faults.
Says you.

If a game never get's a 10, then why bother having 10? Make the top score 9 then and be honest with yourself. All this never giving the top score shit does is lead to fiddly and stupid scores with decimal points in them and who fucking cares? I would rather those stupid numbering scores just go away altogether if we're going to deal with a top score that is never given and moronic fractions like that.
 

Conqueror Kenny

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Jack Spencer Jr said:
If a game never get's a 10, then why bother having 10? Make the top score 9 then and be honest with yourself. All this never giving the top score shit does is lead to fiddly and stupid scores with decimal points in them and who fucking cares? I would rather those stupid numbering scores just go away altogether if we're going to deal with a top score that is never given and moronic fractions like that.
Exactly what I was going to say, if a game can never get a ten then why is there a ten? You lot just need to lower your standers and actually enjoy the games you play rather than just worry about the scores tagged onto them. Can you not judge games yourself?
 

Zombie Badger

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I think that a game should only be given 10/10 if it is perfect in every way. The only games I think deserve this are Portal and Perfect Dark.
 

Madaxeman101

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no game deserves a ten unless its perfect and cant be improved in any way gta didnt deserve ten because it could have been improved by having planes in it
 

Madaxeman101

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Stubee said:
Games that get 10 are only getting 10s in the eyes fo the reviewer. There are plenty of games i would give a ten to that i know others wouldnt. Bioshock, Halo 3, COD4 and Oblivion for example.
i would give oblivion halo 3 and bioshock all tens
 

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Fire Daemon said:
No there shouldn't be a game that is given a 10/10. A score of 10 says that everyone who plays this game will enjoy it and I don't think that everyone can enjoy a single game.
Why?

A review is subjective. I would give fallout 1 a ten out of ten, because there is nothing in that game I'd change for anything else. The same goes for Portal. Sure, it would be fun if they were longer, sure, graphics could maybe be improved, and possible bugs removed. That doesn't change the fact that I think those two games are as good as they will ever be. I had enough fun playing those games that I consider them deserving of full scores.

That doesn't mean everyone will agree. Most people picking up a copy of Fallout for the first time today and be forced to play through it would scream, scream, scream for days about the awful graphics that hurts their eyes. Many people will disagree that it is as good as I think it is. That doesn't change my score, and my score doesn't imply that everyone will like it.

No one can ever judge something for everyone, someone will always find something wrong, so NO review EVER can mean that everyone would think something is great, no matter how high a score that review gives it. A score of ten says only that the reviewer loved the game and that anyone with similar taste will too. NOTHING else.

I agree however that not many games deserve a 10. And if there was a more precise scale, no game could ever reach it. If you give a game a scorde between 1 and 10 however, that 10 is attainable. If a flaw is mentioned, then no, the game shouldn't be given a 10. Then again, there are horrible technically flawless games.

I think that a game deserves the highest score if that game fully utilizes what it has. Withing a deep forest for example is a very simple game. It doesn't offer too much, it doesn't offer amazing graphics, deep storyline, very much immersion, etc. It offers a fun gameplay and some interesting puzzles. It does those things extremely well however, and makes no pretense to offer anything else. In my eyes that makes it a candidate for a 10/10 score. It does what it's supposed to perfectly. It's not much, but it's right. It's got a few glitches, it gets awfully frustrating sometimes, but it still deserves a ten, because it delivers what it promises perfectly.

I don't agree with William in the least. Giving something a high score for effort is like rewarding someone for showing up in class, or for trying to answer a question. A rating should be fair. If someone has a great idea and executes it in a horrendous fashion it doesn't deserve a high rating, no matter how great the idea is. Just if it has a great concept, and lives up to it and delivers can such a high rating be achieved.
 

Graustein

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Well, considering that reviews are all subjective, I say that reviewers should be able to give a game whatever score they like. Regardless of any flaws, games should be scored by the reviewer based on how much the reviewer actually liked and would recommend the game.

Take Portal. It's witty, innovative, immersive and makes my friend nerdgasm over the physics involved. On the other hand, it's criminally short, the final boss fight is piss, and the puzzles are all pretty easy. You can find faults in ANY game if you look hard enough. Portal's short, Brawl has epic loading times, Wind Waker is a macguffin-fest in which you spend more time sailing than anything else. I'd still give all three of those games a 10/10.

A score of 10/10 shouldn't be taken to mean that a game is perfect. Show me a perfect game and I'll find a flaw in it, no matter how trivial. A 10/10 score should be taken to mean that the reviewer has played it, enjoyed it immensely, and would be hard-pressed to identify a game they recommend more.
 

Gansasalite

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I belive no game should recive a 10/10 score. In my mind whenever a game gets 10/10 its the reviewer sucuming to bias or hype.

10/10 only exsits as that Can we reach it dream to me.

Oh, except Half-Life 2. It deserves a 10/10, Noble prize and to be F**king Knighted.
 

GenHellspawn

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10/10 should mean a game is among the best the system has to offer and is a excellent example of the genre. I think there are games that deserve 10/10.

I do not, however, believe any game should get 100/100 (PC Gamer magazine-esque system).
This would the game was absolutley perfect in every way.