No matter how open-minded...

[BiscuitTrouser]

People who are dicks to others, specifically towards people with religions. They have a religion, get over it. Or just dicks in general, as why they need to be a dick I don't see a proper motive at all. No matter how made I am or upset I can't take it out on someone. No matter how stupid or ignorant someone is I bite my tongue. Maybe mommy and daddy just taught me good manners.

This right here.

Atheists are the worst about this. The number of "religion" replies in this thread is evidence of that.

Every time the subject of religion comes up you get atheists who hop on with their "GOD DOESN'T EXIST" trolling. It's old people, really old. Most of the intolerant, bigoted, and hate filled comments involving the subject of religion on the internet come from atheists. Then they have the nerve to whine when they get the same treatment in return.
Reap what you sow.

I know that not all atheists are like that, and I sure hope most aren't like that, but the same is true for all religions that suffered from the curse of over-zealous members. (And by that I mean all of them.)

Which brings me to a nice bit of irony. Atheism is a religion.

It may not involve the belief in/worship of a theoretical deity(s) or entity(s), but it still involves the belief in/worship of something. Religion is about having faith.

Atheists have faith in science, technology, human ingenuity, and human creativity.
Thus atheism is a religion.

Now many will be angry and upset that I'm calling their believe system a religion but I must ask, why?

There is nothing wrong with atheism being called a religion. Too many have spent too much time trying to demonize the word "religion." I don't understand why they do that though. It just doesn't make sense to me.

It's okay to have faith in something. It doesn't matter if you can physically prove it exists or not. It's perfectly okay to have faith in science, technology, God, Buddha, Ala, Talos, Ponies, the Triforce, Thrall, Spider Man, C-130 cargo planes, a rock, or anything else.

I don't understand why more can't grasp this. It's okay to have faith. It's not okay to belittle people who have faith in things you do not.

Sorry but this is factually incorrect. Not the last bit. Thats awesome, its great to have faith, faith is a very personal thing and its wrong to demonize the word. I have faith in my friends, family, and my hopes and dreams. And thats just awesome. However atheism isnt a religion or even comparable.

Faith in science just doesnt make sense. What is science? Science isnt a force, or an object, science is a process. A process that means "I see something to be true, i ask someone else if they also observe what is true, we test the given fact to greater detail and everyone agrees we see it as true, it is now accepted as true".

Science is the requirement of evidence to reinforce a fact and nothing else. That is ALL the word "science" means. If you mean do i have faith in all science? No. I dont. I SEE everything science does, i test it all pretty much through school, i gather the evidence and i use scientific method to see that what i am told is true and matches with the real world. Basically if it makes sense, and it proves true by testing and observing the real world, its safe to say its true. To say that to think "I need evidence to see something" is faith is a complete oxymoron.

Science is the polar opposite of faith. Faith is the belief of something regardless of evidence, IE doesnt require any evidence to think, faith is purely personal and relies on emotional belief free of any evidence of another kind. Science is the denial of personal bias and the acceptance of only physical evidence to back up a claim. Thus the literal definition of science and faith are antonyms, they are opposites, to say one is another is just incorrect.

Faith tends to be rather dogmatic, science does not for the following awesome tim minchin speech:

Science adjusts it?s views based on what?s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.
If you show me that, say, homeopathy works, then I will change my mind
I?ll spin on a fucking dime
I?ll be embarrassed as hell, but I will run through the streets yelling
'It?s a miracle! Take physics and bin it!
Water has memory! And while it?s memory of a long lost drop of onion juice seems Infinite
It somehow forgets all the poo it?s had in it!'

You show me that it works and how it works
And when I?ve recovered from the shock
I will take a compass and carve 'Fancy That' on the side of my cock.?

If you prove some particals travel faster than light then science will attempt to reason how this is so, accepting your evidence over their previous knowlegde. Thats the key difference.

Science can be disproved, faith cannot. Thus they are different once again.

Please dont try and pigeon hole my belief system, it isnt a religion no matter how many people say it is. These people are wrong. We are not comparable. Faith is awesome and can be amazing in peoples lives but what i am displaying in this single case isnt faith. At all. Its the opposite.

Thanks for reading. Please dont jugde my belief system and its followers based on some vocal assholes, we are not all like this. We are normal people. Anyone. There is no organisation to atheism so to correlate or extrapolate our behaviour is pointless. We follow no rules and no regulation and are literally a bunch of average joes minus the bunch.

 

[FoolKiller]

Which brings me to a nice bit of irony. Atheism is a religion.

Religion implies faith. Atheism is the lack of faith in a religion. Atheists do no have to believe in ANY of the things you just said.

Can't we all just get along.... and be agnostic

In all seriousness though, I tend to agree with Grunt.

You state that Atheism is the lack of faith in a religion. According to Wikipedia "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

Most of the arguments posted here basically claim that they believe there are no deities. If that is the case, atheism is a belief, also known as a faith.

My problem is that someone who believes there is no god can criticize someone who does. A belief is a belief whether for or against.

I do agree that you can join the agnostic fence-sitters of the world and claim the intellectual high ground and wait for evidence, but belief is belief.

 

[dex-dex]

People who dye their hair.

I can handle nose rings, nipple piercings, earrings, belly-button rings, and tattoos, but dying your hair, or altering any aspect of your body that you were born with just doesn't feel right.

Same with any cosmetic surgery.

because colouring hair can change how you are looked at by the public. for example, I coloured my hair a medium brown in grade twelve from my blonde hair and so many people had said that I looked more mature compared to my natural colour. which is sort of a back handed compliment but still people perceived me different.
it is like cutting your hair, it is just showing your inner self off.
Does it help a bit?

 

[cerealnmuffin]

+why is it deemed okay for someone to watch 4 hours of tv every night (at least an hour of that will be spent watching advertisements), but if someone plays a game for even half that time everyday they are considered a loser and possibly addicted?

+I don't understand people who become emotionally invested in a sports match. I used to not to be able to understand people who like sports, but then I really got into watching starcraft 2 tournaments. I love learning the ins and outs of the games and seeing people put that to use. Though I have players I like watching (ex kiwikaki because of mothership usage and that I'm a protoss player) yet I don't get enraged if players I think are interesting lose nor if another country wins a match.

It just seems strange for grown men (and women) to get really furious if "their" team loses.... It isn't like they know the actual players and the only connection you have to them is that you are in same state (the players are there for the job and not the state anyway). Psychologically, I know it is cause they feel their self worth is manifested in how 'their' team does.... just seems really pathetic especially when they yell at the players for not running faster or something but they themselves are 200 lbs overweight.

+On a related note, why schools invest so heavily into sports programs but the arts are considered pointless. I agree it is good to be healthy fit, but catching a ball isn't a life skill needed worthy to get half a school's budget.

+Also I don't get bigotry especially when said people consider themselves open minded and accepting.

+Farmville fans too lol Casual puzzle games are fine, but that isn't even a game.

+People who watch the superbowl for commercials (I think football is boring so i won't even watch it but there are people who hate football but watch it for the commercials). One of the main reasons I quit TV 5 years ago (asides from occassional show off netflix) is due to commercials.

 

[Ignatz_Zwakh]

People who can't watch movies with subtitles. It doesn't take much effort to focus on the text and the imagery... (Not to pick on people who've eyesight issues. They've an excuse)

 

[Greni]

After thinking about it for a few days, the answer finally came to me. Rather obvious when I think about it.

I can't wrap my head around the idea of people banning absolutely everything that goes against their own personal convictions. Where some people are so cocksure about some aspect of the human condition that not only do they not partake in it themselves, they make damn sure that no one else can even come near it.

I used to think "well they are just trying to protect me, they mean well", but after a few years of the same shit, I realize that no, they are not protecting anyone but their pathetic selves from seeing others live a rich full and interesting lives, taking a full advantage of all the possibilities it has to offer, that they themselves were so cruelly denied by equally stuffy people in their youth. Simple cause and effect.

Seriously, fuck those people.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

I'm sorry but that is just so very stupid I had to reply.

Warning, rant ahead.

Thanks for proving me right, and thanks for proving Atheists as the most bigoted and intolerant people on the internet.

You claim what I said was "stupid" yet your post is filled with the same kind of idiotic ignorance, hatred, and arrogance as displayed by the Crusaders, Spanish Inquisition, and Third Reich.

Now on to those "books" you ranted about. Have you, or your friends, ever tried ignoring them? I mean if you don't believe in what they say, then what they say should have no affect on you right?
Unless of course, you're not actually an atheist and do believe in what they say. If so, then I suggest you come to terms with that as soon as possible.

No you are not allowed to hate someone because they don't see eye to eye with you. It's not socially acceptable anymore. This is the 21st century after all. Just the same as it's not socially acceptable to hate someone because they have a different skin color then you.

There is no constitutional right that says you have the right to rage at, and bully, people who follow a religion that differs from your own. (Yes, I just called Atheism a religion again. Don't like it? Too bad, cry more tyrant.)

In fact, you're violating the Constitution and Bill of Rights with your illogical bashing of other religions, and those who believe in them. It's called the Freedom of Religion. They have just as much right to believe in God, as you have to not believe in God.

But by all means keep up the illogical hatred, you're making Hitler proud.
However you're making the rest of us logical people who accept the fact that everyone is different, and are willing to tolerate them believing in something we might not believe in, ashamed to be of the same species as you.

(The preceding was NOT brought to you by some religious nut. It was brought to you by a rational human who is sick of seeing douchbags, who refuse to learn from history, trying to justify intolerance and hatred.)

I never said anyone didn't have the right to believe in whatever they want to believe. And my anger is not directed at the books, but the people who believe in them. The books are very easy to ignore, the people are not.

And I have no trouble with people believing in whatever they want to believe in, as long as what they believe in isn't stupid illogical and hateful. Did you see me mocking people whos philosophies are different from mine?

The problem isn't them believing or being differently. Everyone is different. The problem arises when people take the advice from books filled with ridiculous claims, outdated moral standards and general stupidity, than let those govern or even influence their lives. I'm not mocking people because they're religious, I'm mocking people because they've made stupid, stupid decisions.

And I never said I wouldn't tolerate them. My entire family is christian. I was merely trying to to explain to you why some atheists, including me sometimes, mock them.

I did get a bit angry there for a moment and I should have waited to calm down before making my post, but my points still stand.

And before you call me names, could you please actually properly argue against anything I said?

And seriously? Claiming I'm breaking the constitution? With an internet post? How the bloody hell am i infringing on the rights of people to believe what they wan't to believe by mocking or arguing them?

I'm fairly sure I do have a constitutional right, it's called freedom of speech.

I mean i would, if I lived in america. Which I don't.

So to make my point again, atheist don't mock religion we mock stupidity. Sadly religion is filled with stupidity. Stupidity does not claim some magical form of immunity from mockery when it's associated with a religion. It's just as bad as a man claiming he lives with a leprecaun. Except that's not even half as stupid as most of the stuff religions claim. I have a very difficult time tolerating people who take their ignorance and stupidity for fact.

So if you believe hatred for stupidity is illogical, then yes my hatred is illogical. But it doesn't really make sense trying to mix logic with emotions now does it?

It may not be polite as you say, but I don't care. Whem someone sais something stupid, I am going to comment, I am going to argue against them be it in real life or the internet. It's just who I am.

And I really like how your raging against me being hateful, at the same time comparing me to hitler. Which, by the way, is just ridiculously overused and stupid as an insult.

Oh and sorry but im not "allowed" to hate? And your complaining against me for being intolerant?

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Which brings me to a nice bit of irony. Atheism is a religion.

Religion implies faith. Atheism is the lack of faith in a religion. Atheists do no have to believe in ANY of the things you just said.

Can't we all just get along.... and be agnostic

In all seriousness though, I tend to agree with Grunt.

You state that Atheism is the lack of faith in a religion. According to Wikipedia "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

Most of the arguments posted here basically claim that they believe there are no deities. If that is the case, atheism is a belief, also known as a faith.

My problem is that someone who believes there is no god can criticize someone who does. A belief is a belief whether for or against.

I do agree that you can join the agnostic fence-sitters of the world and claim the intellectual high ground and wait for evidence, but belief is belief.

If were doing this, why don't I go to wikipedia and see how it defines RELIGION.

Religion is a collection of cultural systems, belief systems and worldviews that establishes symbols that relate humanity to spirituality, and sometimes, to moral values.

Huh. It would appear that by wikipedias definition, atheism is not a religion. Oh wait, wikipedia can't be right lets go check somewhere else!

noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

Huh. It would appear that even if atheism required belief, which it doesn't since a negative doesn't require belief unless there proof otherwise, It still wouldn't be a religion according to the 5 different definitons provided to me by the online dictionary.

Oh hold on that can't be right, I'll have to check somewhere else. Oh no, my dictionary said the same thing! What can this mean?

Oh but that can't possibly be right, hold on I'll have to check another source! Or shoulf we just accept the fact that for much the same reasons that different philosophies are not religions, ATHEISM IS NOT A FUCKING RELIGION.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I'm sorry but that is just so very stupid I had to reply.

Warning, rant ahead.

Religion implies faith. Atheism is the lack of faith in a religion. Atheists do no have to believe in ANY of the things you just said.

And let me make this as clear as possible, I don't care if I sound like a dick. EVERY SINGLE RELIGION IS WRONG. There has not, is not, and never will be a religion that doesn't contain a massive amount of contradictions and ridiculous claims with no evidence that make anything they claim either paradoxical, and thus impossible or just stupid and wrong. It is in every way perfectly acceptable to mock people who are wrong and refuse to accept that they are wrong.

And why doesn't anyone ever consider what faith means (at least the way it's used 99 % of the time)? Faith is the believe in something without reasonable evidence for the validity of said thing. Faith is illogical.
Your religions are illogical.

The atheists who complain are people who are annoyed by that kind of thing.

And have you perhaps considered that people might get angry at the several religions that insult, mock and belittle them?

Am I not allowed to get mad at a book that says all of my accomplishments mean nothing because I do not believe in god?

Am I not allowed to get mad at a book that says one of my best friends will go to hell for all eternity because hes gay, and calls it justice?

Am I not allowed to get angry at the fact that people follow this book like everything (well not actually everything, just what they've nitpicked) it says is fact?

I should just say nothing about any of this, because it's polite?

I'm sorry but no. Screw you, screw your faith, and screw that.

Thanks for proving me right, and thanks for proving Atheists as the most bigoted and intolerant people on the internet.

You claim what I said was "stupid" yet your post is filled with the same kind of idiotic ignorance, hatred, and arrogance as displayed by the Crusaders, Spanish Inquisition, and Third Reich.

Now on to those "books" you ranted about. Have you, or your friends, ever tried ignoring them? I mean if you don't believe in what they say, then what they say should have no affect on you right?
Unless of course, you're not actually an atheist and do believe in what they say. If so, then I suggest you come to terms with that as soon as possible.

No you are not allowed to hate someone because they don't see eye to eye with you. It's not socially acceptable anymore. This is the 21st century after all. Just the same as it's not socially acceptable to hate someone because they have a different skin color then you.

There is no constitutional right that says you have the right to rage at, and bully, people who follow a religion that differs from your own. (Yes, I just called Atheism a religion again. Don't like it? Too bad, cry more tyrant.)

In fact, you're violating the Constitution and Bill of Rights with your illogical bashing of other religions, and those who believe in them. It's called the Freedom of Religion. They have just as much right to believe in God, as you have to not believe in God.

But by all means keep up the illogical hatred, you're making Hitler proud.
However you're making the rest of us logical people who accept the fact that everyone is different, and are willing to tolerate them believing in something we might not believe in, ashamed to be of the same species as you.

(The preceding was NOT brought to you by some religious nut. It was brought to you by a rational human who is sick of seeing douchbags, who refuse to learn from history, trying to justify intolerance and hatred.)

Lets calm down here. We are perfectly capable of having a reasonable discussion. Mindlessly attacking religion is uncalled for, but so is generalizing atheists and invoking Godwin's Law. And atheism isn't a religion, we have been over this. Atheism has no dogma, symbols, or belief system. Please stop making a statement that we both know is false. Now, is there anything that you want to discuss?

Message to other atheists: Please use qualifiers. If you have a problem with, say biblical literalists, then address them. Do not extrapolate that to all religions. It is disingenuous. I myself hate Dominionists with a passion.

Message to theists: stop calling atheism a religion. You know who you are.

 

[General Twinkletoes]

I'm sorry but that is just so very stupid I had to reply.

Warning, rant ahead.

Religion implies faith. Atheism is the lack of faith in a religion. Atheists do no have to believe in ANY of the things you just said.

And let me make this as clear as possible, I don't care if I sound like a dick. EVERY SINGLE RELIGION IS WRONG. There has not, is not, and never will be a religion that doesn't contain a massive amount of contradictions and ridiculous claims with no evidence that make anything they claim either paradoxical, and thus impossible or just stupid and wrong. It is in every way perfectly acceptable to mock people who are wrong and refuse to accept that they are wrong.

And why doesn't anyone ever consider what faith means (at least the way it's used 99 % of the time)? Faith is the believe in something without reasonable evidence for the validity of said thing. Faith is illogical.
Your religions are illogical.

The atheists who complain are people who are annoyed by that kind of thing.

And have you perhaps considered that people might get angry at the several religions that insult, mock and belittle them?

Am I not allowed to get mad at a book that says all of my accomplishments mean nothing because I do not believe in god?

Am I not allowed to get mad at a book that says one of my best friends will go to hell for all eternity because hes gay, and calls it justice?

Am I not allowed to get angry at the fact that people follow this book like everything (well not actually everything, just what they've nitpicked) it says is fact?

I should just say nothing about any of this, because it's polite?

I'm sorry but no. Screw you, screw your faith, and screw that.

Thanks for proving me right, and thanks for proving Atheists as the most bigoted and intolerant people on the internet.

You claim what I said was "stupid" yet your post is filled with the same kind of idiotic ignorance, hatred, and arrogance as displayed by the Crusaders, Spanish Inquisition, and Third Reich.

Now on to those "books" you ranted about. Have you, or your friends, ever tried ignoring them? I mean if you don't believe in what they say, then what they say should have no affect on you right?
Unless of course, you're not actually an atheist and do believe in what they say. If so, then I suggest you come to terms with that as soon as possible.

No you are not allowed to hate someone because they don't see eye to eye with you. It's not socially acceptable anymore. This is the 21st century after all. Just the same as it's not socially acceptable to hate someone because they have a different skin color then you.

There is no constitutional right that says you have the right to rage at, and bully, people who follow a religion that differs from your own. (Yes, I just called Atheism a religion again. Don't like it? Too bad, cry more tyrant.)

In fact, you're violating the Constitution and Bill of Rights with your illogical bashing of other religions, and those who believe in them. It's called the Freedom of Religion. They have just as much right to believe in God, as you have to not believe in God.

But by all means keep up the illogical hatred, you're making Hitler proud.
However you're making the rest of us logical people who accept the fact that everyone is different, and are willing to tolerate them believing in something we might not believe in, ashamed to be of the same species as you.

(The preceding was NOT brought to you by some religious nut. It was brought to you by a rational human who is sick of seeing douchbags, who refuse to learn from history, trying to justify intolerance and hatred.)

Ahem. Atheist right here. A lot of my good friends are religious, my sister is, my grandparents are, and idc in the slightest. Please stop generalising, and saying we're all pricks.
I however, do agree that the guy i quoted is kind of a prick. Religions are about what you believe, what you think is right, not what he was saying.
But i think he has it right that atheism is not a religion, I think he's right about that, and little else. (apart from the gay thing)

OT: Homophobes. I'm not gay, and the idea of me having sex with a guy puts me off, but seriously, it's just the way they are. Nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with them.

Arrested Development fans.

But...but... It's so good!
EDIT: Oh dear, I see a lot of the atheists arguing along side me are being pricks. Well that's what the internet does I guess.

 

[Kynreave]

I come back to this thread to see a page of Atheism vs Theism arguments. Oh well, I'll just add in my opinion.

As our current knowledge runs, we can philosophise that there is no way for us to determine if there is a god or not. If this idea was incorrect then all of our philisophical progress for our entire life so far as a species would be undermined, so let's just assume for now that that statement is true.

We have, no solid evidence to answer if there is a God or not, we have evidence and possibilities. However we are essentially stabbing into the dark about why we and the universe exist.

Religion however, does not explain it. If it did you could possibly call atheism a faith, however no Religion can explain why we exist, they give a reason, but the reason (A deity) is flawed in the way that we can't know how it exists either. Again, this is why we simply can't know why we are here.

So basically:
Theism - A belief in a deity - This is okay, as there's no real evidence for / against it.
Atheism - Lack of a belief in a deity - This is okay, as there's no real evidence for / against it.

However, the people who are whining about Atheists on the internet need only consider this, for a collosal amount of time, theism was used as an excuse / reason for disgusting behaviour. Now the thing is that human beings look for patterns and trends naturally, and so if you choose to put yourself openly under the same banner, accept that you will recieve abuse until you specifically state you have nothing against atheists, and even then you will still recieve some. What you are doing is the exact same thing as well, you look for a pattern (of the vocal minority) of atheists, and group all atheists under that pattern. Which gives Atheists a reason to flame you, which gives you a reason to flame them... This goes on ad infinium.

Flawed logic causing flawed logic causing flawed logic causing flawed logic causing flawed logic...

If you really want to be more mature, accept that all atheists/theists are different, accept that some will be horrible, and try to change their mind simply by being a reasonable person.

(Note, I used the atheists example because it seems to be more common on the internet, as stated.)

 

[Malyc]

People who dye their hair.

I can handle nose rings, nipple piercings, earrings, belly-button rings, and tattoos, but dying your hair, or altering any aspect of your body that you were born with just doesn't feel right.

Same with any cosmetic surgery.

How does dying hair count as altering your body, but all the rest don't? I'd personally say that the piercings and tattoos are worse than the hair dying, because the hair will eventually change back to it's natural color.

 

[Malyc]

People who dye their hair.

I can handle nose rings, nipple piercings, earrings, belly-button rings, and tattoos, but dying your hair, or altering any aspect of your body that you were born with just doesn't feel right.

Same with any cosmetic surgery.

Stupid captcha and agreement thing... makin me double post and look like a noob.

 

[twohundredpercent]

Damn atheists. They ruined atheism.

 

[FernandoV]

The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.

Yeeeep. Religion and drugs for me.

Since religion was covered...drugs. I definitely want to risk permanent damage so that I can black out and wake up feeling like shit in some strange place. Sounds like a good time to me.

You obviously learned about drugs from Above the Influence commercials.

OT: I suppose the one thing I've never bothered to try to understand is people who complain about problems that I don't consider valid. I don't care if people call you fat, or your sister hasn't spoken to you, or you're lonely, etc etc; get over it.

 

[Comando96]

I can wrap my head around most things...
If it's to do with a persons psychology and the way in which their brain is wired which is a set of biological factors but then a massive amount of environmental ones. This covers things like: Religion, personal preferences of some kind or form.
Also some people can't understand things which are not "logical" but the very fact you can't understand such a thing shows merely you know not of what is behind your eyes.
If a monkey pushest a button and gets food he will do it again surely? Not necessarily. The monkey wants to feel good. Food is but one method to that. A teddy bear is much better so long as the monkey is not hungry. It's all chemicals in our brain. It's just buttons and releases.

With human behaviour it can all be understood... It can all be put down to things that have happened to them as a child and an adult, their parenting, their activities their built in habits, the resulting mentality and that's effects too.

Easy example: Religion.
For a lot of people it's down to upbringing therefore environmental factors. They are spoon fed what to believe and... Your shocked that they do? That's almost as ignorant as they are, but you claim to be superior as you've made your own opinion, but give no credit to the environmental factors which differe between you both... Eh?

For others they have truly found it themselves as this is a process of being more than spoon fed potential bullshit and finding what you believe to be true. The deduction method of course being down to enciromental factors and biological ones... Therefore much more logical... Yes? Dunno... Do we?

---------------------------

To me there is one thing to which I'll never understand... It's not about about people... It's the ultimate question... What caused reality to exist... And... Why?

It's a question I'll not be able to find an answer for but always be curious.

Is there a God? It's a possibility... Equally the flying spaghetti monster may be real >.>

 

[SnipErlite]

What would chairs look like if our knees bent the other way?

I...I.....wait....

I have no idea. This befuddles me.

Thanks Sonic, now I'm gonna end up trying to sketch chairs all evening

 

[Aprilgold]

For fucks sake- if a post is this early in a 600 post thread chances are your counterpoint has already been made, so please save yourself the goddamn effort.

I agree, I can't wrap my head around it, there is no benefit for it, so why do it?

MAKING THE POST LONGER, I HAVE TO MAKE IT LONGER, AVOID THE MOD GODS, BECAUSE MY POST IS LONGER!

 

[Noala]

People who are dicks to others, specifically towards people with religions. They have a religion, get over it. Or just dicks in general, as why they need to be a dick I don't see a proper motive at all. No matter how made I am or upset I can't take it out on someone. No matter how stupid or ignorant someone is I bite my tongue. Maybe mommy and daddy just taught me good manners.

This right here.

Atheists are the worst about this. The number of "religion" replies in this thread is evidence of that.

Every time the subject of religion comes up you get atheists who hop on with their "GOD DOESN'T EXIST" trolling. It's old people, really old. Most of the intolerant, bigoted, and hate filled comments involving the subject of religion on the internet come from atheists. Then they have the nerve to whine when they get the same treatment in return.
Reap what you sow.

I know that not all atheists are like that, and I sure hope most aren't like that, but the same is true for all religions that suffered from the curse of over-zealous members. (And by that I mean all of them.)

Which brings me to a nice bit of irony. Atheism is a religion.

It may not involve the belief in/worship of a theoretical deity(s) or entity(s), but it still involves the belief in/worship of something. Religion is about having faith.

Atheists have faith in science, technology, human ingenuity, and human creativity.
Thus atheism is a religion.

Now many will be angry and upset that I'm calling their believe system a religion but I must ask, why?

There is nothing wrong with atheism being called a religion. Too many have spent too much time trying to demonize the word "religion." I don't understand why they do that though. It just doesn't make sense to me.

It's okay to have faith in something. It doesn't matter if you can physically prove it exists or not. It's perfectly okay to have faith in science, technology, God, Buddha, Ala, Talos, Ponies, the Triforce, Thrall, Spider Man, C-130 cargo planes, a rock, or anything else.

I don't understand why more can't grasp this. It's okay to have faith. It's not okay to belittle people who have faith in things you do not.

(22 pages cbf reading them all to see if this has already been said)
Atheism is actually "not following a god".
Theism:Following a god
A in front of something most of the time means Anti, so Atheism is not following a god.