No one plays adventure games anymore?
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I think its got something to do with the vast majority of them being boring time sinks that take little no brain functions to complete but then again maybe I've just played the bad ones
It matters because the method of control affects the gameplay. Point and click adventures trivialized gameplay somewhat, because it was easier to locate all objects and simply going through all combinations. During that time period Adventure developers had to get a bit more creative to force broader puzzle solving. I think when adventures started to use 3D with Grim Fandango and Escape From Monkey Island, the puzzles had a bit more in common with original text adventures. It's possible to add more clutter to the environment and force players to think more abstract in a 3D game.Blood Brain Barrier said:
Point and click sometimes means graphical adventure, or adventure without text input. Thats probably why the late Lucasarts games was called point and click even though they didn't use a mouse.
I think its a shame 3D engines aren't used for adventures more often. I think Amnesia Dark Descent certainly qualifies as having adventure'ish gameplay. Modern 3D engines could be used to great effect for adventure games.
I spent the last three days playing through Bastion. Thrice.
Your argument is invalid.
No, seriously, adventure game are still common, but so comon they're not being talked about as much anymore.
Your argument is invalid.
No, seriously, adventure game are still common, but so comon they're not being talked about as much anymore.
The word adventure is weird like the word RPG, almost every game you're playing the role of someone on an adventure, but I do recognize that somehow games with leveling stats are considered RPGs and adventure games are puzzle games with a story, I think I don't really understand the defining point of the adventure genre but if it is puzzles and story that defines it then most games are adventure games. All that being said maybe the reason that no ones talked about "true adventure" games in two weeks is because no "true adventure" games have come out in awhile, I myself play point and click still I just bought the old Monkey Island games from steam, and I'm really hope they release more old Lucasart games soon, and I bought the talltale games pack so I have around two dozen adventure games I've been playing through.
Wait. You think no one plays adventure games just because there hasn't been a mention of one on the forums in 2 weeks? That's a weird way to come to a conclusion. If you want to talk adventure games, start an adventure game topic. It's not hard. I don't like how many skyrim threads there are, but I've learned that I just have to start my own topic if I want to talk about stuff. Simple.Blood Brain Barrier said:
Ah, now I understand.Blood Brain Barrier said:
I have bought and played through three incarnations of Monkey Island and Monkey Island 2, and the last time I did so on iOS, I had already forgotten a big chunk of the puzzles and jokes. Plus, things seemed to be easier and I really enjoyed being able to switch between blocky original and revamped graphics. That was a sweet thing.
I own some of the Lucasarts Archives boxes, but ever since Apple ditched the PowerPC platform and no emulator or virtual drives seem to be able to make sense of the clearly non-standard CDs, I had to get some more old hardware.
I have accumulated almost all Sierra adventure games of old, and the ones with the most replay value would have to be the "So You Want To Be A Hero?" - Hero's Quest titles. I still seem to discover new things every now and then. Oh, and I seem to enjoy the original Sam & Max far more than the new incarnations... not entirely sure why. Maybe I just have issues with "episodic" content.
What has doomed this genre? Not sure. Does anyone remember Maupiti Island? I can remember when the inclusion of audio samples and digitized visuals became more prevalent... it sort of killed the artform, and it just never looked as convincing as proper, handmade graphics. Then came polygonal 3D and everything had to be 3D... think Alone In The Dark, that was horribly ugly to look at.
Even the early console adventury types (Resident Evil?) took large chunks from classic 2D and only had selective 3D bits. I'd like to think that Resident Evil/Biohazard was successful because it basically brought the best of three worlds together, and it did so in a - then - unique manner, and the people who dared to do it just did a brilliant job. 3D polygonal models that worked including scary zombies and pant-staining shock moments, mostly well crafted backdrops/play areas AND that splendid new thing FMV demon that added to the scares, but wasn't all over the place and therefor a feature, not a curse.
Since then... I really couldn't think of any "Adventure" games this side of the WayBack machine. Maybe people don't feel like hand-crafting so much content, maybe distributors don't think there's money to be made. So, there will probably be more Call of Battlefields or anything that sells in proper numbers in the free world, but I really don't see anything short of a miracle to revive the adventure genre.
See, I also miss the simple little games we play even though they involve hooking up unwieldy beige plastic boxes to our million-hertz smart TVs - where are Wizball, Sensible Soccer, Paradroid, Ranarama or Super Sidekicks? Why do sports games have to be so darn complicated and polished?
I'm digging Amnesia. Pretty good adventure game. The story is horror-driven but, at its core, it's adventure by your definition through and through.
And just a hint, OP: you can help the conversation by being a bit less condencending. If you have an issue with The Escapist's coverage of a genre you like (a legitimate complaint) you could have started out your post with the names of a few games you think deserve coverage instead of having posters wring them out of you after you berate them for not guessing your definition of an adventure game.
And just a hint, OP: you can help the conversation by being a bit less condencending. If you have an issue with The Escapist's coverage of a genre you like (a legitimate complaint) you could have started out your post with the names of a few games you think deserve coverage instead of having posters wring them out of you after you berate them for not guessing your definition of an adventure game.
I'm not sure I want to get in on this fun battle, but I do want to point out that the Escapist did have a few articles on Stacking:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...ers-Next-Game-is-About-Russian-Stacking-Dolls
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art.../previews/8565-Hands-On-Double-Fines-Stacking
While it is, admittedly, one game in a year, it is by far the highest profile adventure game released all year (at least, in the US), and it was covered here.
I, too, am saddened by the lack of coverage, but the genre has decreased greatly in popularity since the good ole' days, and gaming sites gotta go with what's big to keep the numbers rolling in.
Perhaps you could denote yourself resident Adventure game discusser, and create a thread talking about new releases on a regular basis? I'm always happy to see new, quality games of this sort.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...ers-Next-Game-is-About-Russian-Stacking-Dolls
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art.../previews/8565-Hands-On-Double-Fines-Stacking
While it is, admittedly, one game in a year, it is by far the highest profile adventure game released all year (at least, in the US), and it was covered here.
I, too, am saddened by the lack of coverage, but the genre has decreased greatly in popularity since the good ole' days, and gaming sites gotta go with what's big to keep the numbers rolling in.
Perhaps you could denote yourself resident Adventure game discusser, and create a thread talking about new releases on a regular basis? I'm always happy to see new, quality games of this sort.
I saw an Uncharted 3 thread a couple of hours ago, I've seen a handful of Assassin's Creed threads and you could easily argue that Skyrim falls into the Adventure genre as well.
Other recent examples include Cathrine, L.A.Noire, Amnesia (A lot of Amnesia threads were also around actually), Zelda, The Phoenix Wright series, and even Pokemon falls into the genre as well.
All of these games got plenty of attention here when they first arrived.
Other recent examples include Cathrine, L.A.Noire, Amnesia (A lot of Amnesia threads were also around actually), Zelda, The Phoenix Wright series, and even Pokemon falls into the genre as well.
All of these games got plenty of attention here when they first arrived.
[quote="Blood Brain Barrier" post="9.329985.13420127"..The reason being the gamers weren't intelligent enough to be bothered solving puzzles. There's a reason you couldn't enjoy Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, and it wasn't because of bad puzzle design.[/quote]
Aww someone has a superiority complex.
Actually I did enjoy Indiana Jones. Just because it aggravated me that ring puzzle had no way of hinting how to solve it, or that instead of punching in the last fight, you had to go around him and pull a lever that looked like it was just another piece of wall. Did I mention it was timed.
Aww someone has a superiority complex.
Actually I did enjoy Indiana Jones. Just because it aggravated me that ring puzzle had no way of hinting how to solve it, or that instead of punching in the last fight, you had to go around him and pull a lever that looked like it was just another piece of wall. Did I mention it was timed.
I personally love Shadow of Memories; straight-up adventure game with exploration and time-travel puzzles. While the story is a bit puzzling depending on which ending you get and which choices you make, it's also pretty damn brilliant once you fully understand it. Definitely worth playing.
Isn't Zelda technically an adventure game? If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Skyward Sword was popular.
Although I haven't really seen any threads talking about it. A good thing too. I'd like to finish the game without being spoiled story-wise.
Although I haven't really seen any threads talking about it. A good thing too. I'd like to finish the game without being spoiled story-wise.