No Right Answer: Best Archer Ever
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The CW's Green Arrow is my answer, I mean, just look at him and what he does.
Or Mark Nut. Mark Nut was clearly the best ever.
Or Mark Nut. Mark Nut was clearly the best ever.
I'm going to vote for Mad Jack, just cause he was not only an Olympic archer, but one of the most badass badasses to ever badass.
But yeah, fictionally, Legolas.
But yeah, fictionally, Legolas.
Katniss is a damn good archer. An impressive archer.
... But this really is kind of ridiculous. Legolas is an impossibly good archer, in that what he does with a bow is impossible. It only makes sense to pair him off with another impossibly good archer. I know the new Hunger Games movie came out very recently, but it really should have been either Green Arrow or Hawkeye.
Admittedly, you guy seriously hit the nail on the head with Legolas choking on the olympic-torch orc when it fucking mattered most.
... But this really is kind of ridiculous. Legolas is an impossibly good archer, in that what he does with a bow is impossible. It only makes sense to pair him off with another impossibly good archer. I know the new Hunger Games movie came out very recently, but it really should have been either Green Arrow or Hawkeye.
Admittedly, you guy seriously hit the nail on the head with Legolas choking on the olympic-torch orc when it fucking mattered most.
I feel like Katniss isn't really defined by her archerness as much as her refusal to die and her spirit.
Whereas Legolas basically is 'archer dude'. He's not dramatic, he's not really comic relief, he's sort of straightman sidekick to Gimli's funny sidekick but barely even really that. What he is, is a guy with a bow who shoots impossibly well.
So whilst I adore Katniss, this was a pretty sensible result
Whereas Legolas basically is 'archer dude'. He's not dramatic, he's not really comic relief, he's sort of straightman sidekick to Gimli's funny sidekick but barely even really that. What he is, is a guy with a bow who shoots impossibly well.
So whilst I adore Katniss, this was a pretty sensible result
I'm sorry but the title of most badass archer can only go to one man.
The only man to tour Europe killing Nazi's with a longbow.
'Mad' Jack Churchill.
A real British WWII solider who spent the early part of the war leading small scale counter attacks on German supply depots and communications systems as every other unit was being slowly pushed back to the French coast. What makes that more impressive? He did it for the most part with only a motorbike, a bow, and a broardsword.
After Dunkirk he enlisted in the commando's and led a raid on Norway, playing "March of the Cameron Men" as he lept from the landing craft, grenaded an enemy position, and charged forwards.
2 beach landings later he took a occupied town in Italy taking 42 prisoners largely without a fight. He did that by creeping up to their position, aiming his bow at them, and telling them very loudly and clearly to give up. When asked about it he explained "I maintain that, as long as you tell a German loudly and clearly what to do, if you are senior to him he will cry 'jawohl' and get on with it enthusiastically and efficiently whatever the situation"
He, and all 42 prisoners, then marched back to camp with the wounded being pushed in wheelbarrows and on carts like something from the Napoleonic era.
He was finally captured in Yugoslavia when his attacking force was decimated. He was the last man alive lightly injured, but still had the strength to play "Will Ye No Come Back Again?" on the bagpipes until a grenade knocked him out. It was in that battle he became the last British soldier to kill an enemy with an arrow fired from a bow.
But that wasn't the end. After being sent to a concentration camp in Germany he immediately started to plan an escape. 2 attempts later he successfully walked 100 miles to the American lines and he requested reassignment to Burma as the nukes were dropped. His quote on that is perhaps the most bloodthirsty and unapologetically badass thing ever. "If it wasn't for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another 10 years." Yeah. He wanted to war to continue. He wasn't fighting to win, or to beat the Nazi's. He was fighting because he enjoyed it.
After the war he was shipped to Palestine and fought again, saving the lives of around 700 Jewish doctors in the evacuations.
He retired after that, took up surfing, and reportedly threw a briefcase out of his train home every day.
He died in 1996 at the age of 89.
This has to be more badass, and all round better, than any fictional option. He was a real soldier that went around killing Nazi's with a longbow. Not even Legolas killed Nazi's with a longbow (And if he did I actually want to see that fanfic).
In fact, the Oxford definitions of 'badass' and 'hardcore' have both been replaced with just a picture of 'Mad' Jack Churchill holding his broadsword over his head as he leapt from a landing craft, screaming "COMMANDO!!" at the top of his lungs.
The only man to tour Europe killing Nazi's with a longbow.
'Mad' Jack Churchill.
A real British WWII solider who spent the early part of the war leading small scale counter attacks on German supply depots and communications systems as every other unit was being slowly pushed back to the French coast. What makes that more impressive? He did it for the most part with only a motorbike, a bow, and a broardsword.
After Dunkirk he enlisted in the commando's and led a raid on Norway, playing "March of the Cameron Men" as he lept from the landing craft, grenaded an enemy position, and charged forwards.
2 beach landings later he took a occupied town in Italy taking 42 prisoners largely without a fight. He did that by creeping up to their position, aiming his bow at them, and telling them very loudly and clearly to give up. When asked about it he explained "I maintain that, as long as you tell a German loudly and clearly what to do, if you are senior to him he will cry 'jawohl' and get on with it enthusiastically and efficiently whatever the situation"
He, and all 42 prisoners, then marched back to camp with the wounded being pushed in wheelbarrows and on carts like something from the Napoleonic era.
He was finally captured in Yugoslavia when his attacking force was decimated. He was the last man alive lightly injured, but still had the strength to play "Will Ye No Come Back Again?" on the bagpipes until a grenade knocked him out. It was in that battle he became the last British soldier to kill an enemy with an arrow fired from a bow.
But that wasn't the end. After being sent to a concentration camp in Germany he immediately started to plan an escape. 2 attempts later he successfully walked 100 miles to the American lines and he requested reassignment to Burma as the nukes were dropped. His quote on that is perhaps the most bloodthirsty and unapologetically badass thing ever. "If it wasn't for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another 10 years." Yeah. He wanted to war to continue. He wasn't fighting to win, or to beat the Nazi's. He was fighting because he enjoyed it.
After the war he was shipped to Palestine and fought again, saving the lives of around 700 Jewish doctors in the evacuations.
He retired after that, took up surfing, and reportedly threw a briefcase out of his train home every day.
He died in 1996 at the age of 89.
This has to be more badass, and all round better, than any fictional option. He was a real soldier that went around killing Nazi's with a longbow. Not even Legolas killed Nazi's with a longbow (And if he did I actually want to see that fanfic).
In fact, the Oxford definitions of 'badass' and 'hardcore' have both been replaced with just a picture of 'Mad' Jack Churchill holding his broadsword over his head as he leapt from a landing craft, screaming "COMMANDO!!" at the top of his lungs.
Ah, crazy World War 2 people. Making you say "that's unrealistic" about real people since, well, World War 2.Single Shot said:
Here's hoping they talk about snipers at some point, so we can bring up Simo Häyhä.
If it has to be fictional, wouldn't Hawkeye or Green Arrow be a better choice than Satmiss or whatever she's called?
I agree with the above comments about the criminal lack of Green Arrow & Hawkeye in this debate. By the sounds of it, Katfish doesn't really do much in her story (and those character names will never stop being ridiculous), but Legolas was the much better choice to win.
And I want a movie about "Mad Jack" Churchill right NOW!
And I want a movie about "Mad Jack" Churchill right NOW!
My first thought was also Hawkeye. After giving some more thought, how about them Duke boys from The Dukes of Hazard? They tape dynamite to their arrows and shoot them out of a speeding car.
And I thought this episode was about the radio drama. Apparently I'm more British then these Americans 
Green Arrow.
If you want proof for this episode just how rarely Katnis uses her bow, look here. Though if you take Legolas's kill count as mostly arrow kills, he's much better. Yeah he choked but he also put three arrows into the runner in what should have been lethal shots and the helmet covered the eye slits
If you want proof for this episode just how rarely Katnis uses her bow, look here. Though if you take Legolas's kill count as mostly arrow kills, he's much better. Yeah he choked but he also put three arrows into the runner in what should have been lethal shots and the helmet covered the eye slits
So in other words Katniss only looks badass because everyone else sucks. Don't hurt me I haven't actually seen or read The Hunger Games, that's based entirely on what Kyle said. Hurt him.
Legolas may be badass, but Kadniss has a better asset available to her
.....sorry, I'll leave now
.....sorry, I'll leave now
I vote for Gilgamesh from Fate Stay Night, technically he counts.
Although he's annoying and a little on the hax side...
Although he's annoying and a little on the hax side...
Bard the bowman, guys.
Deus ex machina? perhaps. Badass? The Ultimate.
Bilbo has to sneak into Smaug's lair and be spitting distance away from him before he is able to discover a weak point on the dragon's chest. This is built up to be a monumental uncovering- a chance at victory! As Mr.Baggins regroups with the Dwarves, Smaug takes off to destroy laketown and as he is flying overhead raining firey death upon unsuspecting innocents; in steps Bard. Introduced in one page, and on the next he looks up, sees Smaug, and nearly immediately identifies this miniscule weak-point. He then raises his bow and looses a single arrow; killing a beast which defeated/ laid siege to an entire Dwarven kingdom.
Deus ex machina? perhaps. Badass? The Ultimate.
That this debate did not include the Green Arrow (or Speedy/Arsenal/etc.), Hawkeye(Taskmaster, etc.) AND ALSO DID NOT INCLUDE 1)Hercules who used his incredible strength to straight arm long bows and hit targets over the horizon 2)Susan, the High Queen of Narnia who could shoot things invisible to the naked eye and my personal pick 3)Arjuna Pandava, who was utterly bullshit in every archery way.
Let me tell you about Arjuna Pandava, fool. He was known by ten names (like "Arjuna the Invincible" and "Arjuna the Unbelievable"), having accomplished ten badass feats of archery. I'm not talking piddly little stuff like lodging seven arrows in the throat of a rabid dog without piercing the animal. I'm talking about feeding the god of fire Agni the god of thunder Indra's holy forest and then shooting every drop of rain sent to put out the fire back into the sky until it made a water tight canopy of arrows. You know the type of rain the thunder god of India can bring, they don't have a 'wet season', they got TYPHOONS muthafugga. The god of existence Vishnu (you heard me) was born of mortal flesh to drive his chariot (you heard me). The Bhagavad Gita, one of the holy books of Hinduism like the Torah/New Testament/Quran of the Abrahamic traditions, is just the explanation of how it was still moral for this dude to actually keep on archery-ing like he did. He broke unbreakable, heavenly bow strings like he broke unbreakable, mythological tactical battle formations.
In short, this episode was deplorable by the show's own standards.
Let me tell you about Arjuna Pandava, fool. He was known by ten names (like "Arjuna the Invincible" and "Arjuna the Unbelievable"), having accomplished ten badass feats of archery. I'm not talking piddly little stuff like lodging seven arrows in the throat of a rabid dog without piercing the animal. I'm talking about feeding the god of fire Agni the god of thunder Indra's holy forest and then shooting every drop of rain sent to put out the fire back into the sky until it made a water tight canopy of arrows. You know the type of rain the thunder god of India can bring, they don't have a 'wet season', they got TYPHOONS muthafugga. The god of existence Vishnu (you heard me) was born of mortal flesh to drive his chariot (you heard me). The Bhagavad Gita, one of the holy books of Hinduism like the Torah/New Testament/Quran of the Abrahamic traditions, is just the explanation of how it was still moral for this dude to actually keep on archery-ing like he did. He broke unbreakable, heavenly bow strings like he broke unbreakable, mythological tactical battle formations.
In short, this episode was deplorable by the show's own standards.
