'Twas Vault 21.Kapol said:
OT: I find myself rooting for Kyle most of the time, really; it doesn't matter if you're in a social experiment, I still think it'd be awesome.
No Right Answer: Bioshock's Rapture vs Fallout's Vaults
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OT: I find myself rooting for Kyle most of the time, really; it doesn't matter if you're in a social experiment, I still think it'd be awesome.
At least in the Vaults there was the illusion of safety (unless, by extreme off-chance, there actually was). I'd rather grow up thinking that life was good and okay, instead of being frightened and depressed by chaos the whole time. And the world you enter after leaving isn't actually too bad - if you live quietly in a colony somewhere.
And, with the vaults, there is still the probability of actual safety. Although most of the time Vault-Tec substituted it for science - hence, my avatar.
And, with the vaults, there is still the probability of actual safety. Although most of the time Vault-Tec substituted it for science - hence, my avatar.
I was going to say Fallout's vaults, but that's only true for a handful of them where things went relatively well. Many of them were completely fucked up social, scientific or frankly ridiculous experiments on letting shit hit the fan. Then again, the entirety of Rapture is that way, so I guess I'll go with vaults after all. Plus, power armor rocks.
I assumed that having grown up in 'safe' Rapture I'd be an adult by the time it turned into a nut house. And how many of the vaults did you come across where the inhabitants were either:VanTesla said:
A. Dead
B. Insane
And if by some miracle you happened to not be in a vault that Raiders, the Master, Wastelanders, Ghouls, Mirelurks etc. invaded then you'd still be locked in an underground vault, possibly as a test subject, with no clear window of when you'd be leaving, what would be waiting for you or if you'd even survive out there.
Fallout. Powered armor beats Big daddy's any day (subdermal armor and extreme weapons to). You may have fireballs, but I've got a gauss rifle. Vault 13 was a control vault and though it did go wrong eventually it was fine. it got it's water chip. Vaults were also better armed than they let on; bastards wouldn't give out the good stuff. almost all of the vaults lasted over 100 years anyway. sure when we see them a couple centuries after the damned nuclear armageddon most of them are destroyed they weren't really supposed to be in use then anyway. the outside world is doing fine by the time of the games, and as such The Vaults Are Purposeless.
All of Rapture on the other hand descended into dystopia and chaos. it didn't even last one lifetime. if you were to grow up there you would be screwed. only if you moved there as an old one could you live out your life in peace. all who would grow up there would die horribly, and any that survived the spiral into anarchy would probably become excruciatingly mutated and utterly insane losing themselves to madness, any part of the mind maintaining rational thought being strained and stressed to the breaking point a horrible nightmare of unending fear.
were there not also government vaults outside the 122 public vaults, such as that which the Brotherhood came from?
All of Rapture on the other hand descended into dystopia and chaos. it didn't even last one lifetime. if you were to grow up there you would be screwed. only if you moved there as an old one could you live out your life in peace. all who would grow up there would die horribly, and any that survived the spiral into anarchy would probably become excruciatingly mutated and utterly insane losing themselves to madness, any part of the mind maintaining rational thought being strained and stressed to the breaking point a horrible nightmare of unending fear.
were there not also government vaults outside the 122 public vaults, such as that which the Brotherhood came from?
Kyle did a very poor job on this one. Everything Dan said was easily counterable. For instance, once you're splicing, you can't leave just leave rapture. Splicers need a never-ending supply of Adam once they start and for most people making your own isn't going to happen. For that matter, how prepared for the outside world are you when you think that a tree is a monster? There's a lot that you lose growing up in rapture. That's reflected in the audio logs of parents who wonder if it's right to have brought their children to the city, or who have their children taken away from them. Hell, even the main character of the game is a kidnapee who had cruel experiments conducted on him. Great place to grow up, my ass. How many guys have grown up in a vault and gone on to save the world? I rest my case.
After giving up on this series after the first episode was painful to watch, I was drawn back by the premise of a succinct argument of the comparative merits of libertarian objectivism contrasted against an authoritarian commune. With key points being the monetary system, whether your fellow man is looking after you, which would be kinder to children.
But no, the argument came down to "I'm shooting bees out of my hands".
Disappointed, though not necessarily surprised.
But no, the argument came down to "I'm shooting bees out of my hands".
Disappointed, though not necessarily surprised.
While I can imagine him reading it, and it would be pretty great, this version scores major irony points.Azuaron said:
You see, Noni Hazlehurst has been one of the hosts of Play School in Australia for at least 20 years now.
So... She routinely reads story books to young children...
Somehow though, I don't think this one would go down too well if she used in on Play School. XD