No Right Answer: Is Destiny Bullsh*t?
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Destiny IS bullshit and people like him saying otherwise is full of shit. The only thing it has going for it is the basic Halo style combat which is tight and fun. Everything else on the other hand is terrible. The story is barely there with no character or world development and no feeling of resolution at the end. The final boss is just three of the same one you fought earlier on the same planet with no changes to it. Endgame is just grinding the same 5-6 strikes that all take too long with bosses that take too fakking long to kill even with high end gear, all for one shot at a loot drop at the mercy of the RNG making that time spent feel even more like a waste. No trading between players, no social or LFG options in game for high end raids, background info hidden in grimoir cards you cant even read while in game, no choice how your character looks and few options in creation, and so on...
Having DLC planned in not an excuse, if you expect people to pay more for all the expansions just to get the story then fuck you. The Mass Effect games told a larger over aching story, yes, but each one still had a complete story of their own with a start middle and conclusion. Destiny on the other hand is like your grandpa reading a bedtime story but falls asleep after the first 5 minutes only to wake up sporadically and mumble incoherently about some vague darkness and shit you don't know cuz he never told you anything.
I happily pay a subscription in WoW because I get a quality product that I get my money's worth out of. Destiny I traded back to Best Buy after two weeks because it wasn't worth my time or money. And they are already working on Destiny 2 so that's just Activision saying "thanks for your cash, suckers!"
Having DLC planned in not an excuse, if you expect people to pay more for all the expansions just to get the story then fuck you. The Mass Effect games told a larger over aching story, yes, but each one still had a complete story of their own with a start middle and conclusion. Destiny on the other hand is like your grandpa reading a bedtime story but falls asleep after the first 5 minutes only to wake up sporadically and mumble incoherently about some vague darkness and shit you don't know cuz he never told you anything.
I happily pay a subscription in WoW because I get a quality product that I get my money's worth out of. Destiny I traded back to Best Buy after two weeks because it wasn't worth my time or money. And they are already working on Destiny 2 so that's just Activision saying "thanks for your cash, suckers!"
Destiny tries to be Borderlands, except Destiny trips over its own ambition and fails to deliver.
I'd love to give the Bladedancer a run, but having no story nor proper end game at this pricetag (and the fact that Activision is the publisher...) makes it a no deal for me.
I'd love to give the Bladedancer a run, but having no story nor proper end game at this pricetag (and the fact that Activision is the publisher...) makes it a no deal for me.
My feelings on Destiny are a lot like Dragon Age 2. Both were over-hyped and became repetitive while having a story that really isn't there.
Bungie's biggest mistake was letting Activisions PR department start to hype the game years before launch and then they started to make comments about how "it will be redefining gaming" which it doesn't for it really doesn't feel like they are doing anything new, just taking ideas and concepts from other games.
What I think is probably one of the biggest bone-headed decisions as well is they decided not to release Destiny on the PC, but that is the market they probably would have wanted to release on the most because that is where a lot of people who play games like this reside with a lot of the grind-fest and light on story MMO's there are out there.
Heck I consider the base Diablo 3 to have a better story then Destiny and if anyone asks I would suggest they pick up Diablo 3 over Destiny.
Bungie's biggest mistake was letting Activisions PR department start to hype the game years before launch and then they started to make comments about how "it will be redefining gaming" which it doesn't for it really doesn't feel like they are doing anything new, just taking ideas and concepts from other games.
What I think is probably one of the biggest bone-headed decisions as well is they decided not to release Destiny on the PC, but that is the market they probably would have wanted to release on the most because that is where a lot of people who play games like this reside with a lot of the grind-fest and light on story MMO's there are out there.
Heck I consider the base Diablo 3 to have a better story then Destiny and if anyone asks I would suggest they pick up Diablo 3 over Destiny.
Destiny is something that was intended to be something, then apparently internal strife mucked the hell out of it (particularly that head writer guy leaving and apparently having enough control or ownership of the story that they had to rewrite the entire thing in a few months and slap it in with minimal production values.) and Activision most likely forced them to hurl it out in its current state anyways.
Its reasonable enough shooter to hop on and have some fun with buddies. Anyone expecting a viable singleplayer experience clearly didn't do their research beforehand.You are clearly playing a mesh of content thats been heavily shuffled and repurposed though, and there's been obvious cases of even Developer's being confused about things (the ongoing roundtable of Iron Banner balancing for instance)
Time will tell if they can patch it up and fill in with DLC (paid or free) enough to get respect back for the sequel.
Its reasonable enough shooter to hop on and have some fun with buddies. Anyone expecting a viable singleplayer experience clearly didn't do their research beforehand.You are clearly playing a mesh of content thats been heavily shuffled and repurposed though, and there's been obvious cases of even Developer's being confused about things (the ongoing roundtable of Iron Banner balancing for instance)
Time will tell if they can patch it up and fill in with DLC (paid or free) enough to get respect back for the sequel.
I am not going to lie here folks, I love Destiny. There is solid truth that the story is garbage but I find that it is overshadowed by solid gameplay, fluent combat, and eerily balanced PvP. If you disagree, thats fine, I understand why some people dont like. Destiny keeps me invested in playing the game with a perpetual device that Im not afraid to admit I love, and this device is also present in Borderlands (one of my favorite series).
I'm a simple man with simple desires...kill things to get better things that help you kill things better.
I'm a simple man with simple desires...kill things to get better things that help you kill things better.
Yes. It is bullshit. Pure and simple.
It was marketed on a lie[footnote]Or, in the very least, by generating false expectations.[/footnote] and continues to prove just how shallow and vacuous it is, despite content updates.
That constitutes 'bullshit', as far as I'm concerned.
It was marketed on a lie[footnote]Or, in the very least, by generating false expectations.[/footnote] and continues to prove just how shallow and vacuous it is, despite content updates.
That constitutes 'bullshit', as far as I'm concerned.
That and Team Fortress 2. They do no less than three major, several-week-long events each year, and at times quite a bit more, depending on what content is being added.Kahani said:
Nope its bullshit. They go on about a 10 year life for this game and they already talking about a fucking Destiny 2. Thats bullshit even more so when the game we have.....does not feel very complete or very much like what they told us. Story is abit.....no there. If it were not for the fact Bungie did Halo im sure this would not be doing as well as it is.
You are awakened when the need is most dire. You don your highly advanced armor and set off by yourself to defend mankind though you may meet an ally to fight with you along the way, albeit temporarily. A little floating robot helps you on your journey and proves to be very invaluable. You fight your way through several different alien enemy types ranging from small to medium to big. You weapons consist of pistols, shotguns, assault rifles, sniper rifles and rocket launchers and although its the far future, a more sufficient way to reload guns other than manually has yet to be discovered. Your armor provides you a shield that self regenerates but if you take too much damage after the shield goes down then you are killed. When you finish the game, a nice, heavy "To Be Continued" is dropped on your foot.
Am I talking about Halo or Destiny?
Answer: Yes
Am I talking about Halo or Destiny?
Answer: Yes
Was it just me or was the pro-Destiny side... trying too hard to be pro-Destiny? I get the feeling he wasn't feeling his own hype. Makes me wonder if the ones responsible for promoting this... bull... felt the same way.
If Borderlands was the Diablo 2 of shooters, then Destiny is the Diablo 3 of shooters: grind to the next grind to the next grind to the next grind, and RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG...
So sad now. Glad I have Freedom Wars, one of the few games this year to have both functional single-player and multi-player from the get go.
If Borderlands was the Diablo 2 of shooters, then Destiny is the Diablo 3 of shooters: grind to the next grind to the next grind to the next grind, and RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG...
So sad now. Glad I have Freedom Wars, one of the few games this year to have both functional single-player and multi-player from the get go.
Is it Bullsh*t. I'd say no. Very disappointing? Yes.
Most of the blame can be thrown on Activision or whomever was in charge of promoting this game. They tried to sell it as something it totally wasn't. Gameplay is really tight and fun. But there are no reasons to play the game beyond playing with friends because the very limited amount of content caused fatigue, very quickly. Even when playing with friends.
I've long since given up on doing my dailies as the game doesn't hold any grip on me anymore. I'm holding onto a small hope that the DLC in December will help it out. But all it looks like it is going to do is keep me busy for a day before I am bored of the maps again. But it seems like 2014 is the year for disappointments. As there was a few good games but for the most part just flops.
It does suck as I did have a lot of faith in Bungie to put out a great game, but it seems when they sold their sold to Activision that any creative spirit was removed from the project. I hope they will be shocked when Destiny 2 comes out and it doesn't sell half as well, but knowing the gaming market as it is now. It'll probably still sell a ton.
Most of the blame can be thrown on Activision or whomever was in charge of promoting this game. They tried to sell it as something it totally wasn't. Gameplay is really tight and fun. But there are no reasons to play the game beyond playing with friends because the very limited amount of content caused fatigue, very quickly. Even when playing with friends.
I've long since given up on doing my dailies as the game doesn't hold any grip on me anymore. I'm holding onto a small hope that the DLC in December will help it out. But all it looks like it is going to do is keep me busy for a day before I am bored of the maps again. But it seems like 2014 is the year for disappointments. As there was a few good games but for the most part just flops.
It does suck as I did have a lot of faith in Bungie to put out a great game, but it seems when they sold their sold to Activision that any creative spirit was removed from the project. I hope they will be shocked when Destiny 2 comes out and it doesn't sell half as well, but knowing the gaming market as it is now. It'll probably still sell a ton.
I haven't played either, but from what I can tell, Planetside is much better. It's free, it actually has an open world (in one of Bungie's videos, the guy looks over this giant vista and says it's all playable area -nope! Invisible walls galore), and you can play with way more people at a time.Rituro said:
OT: Destiny was marketed on lies. Sure, the actual gameplay is apparently solid, but the incredibly shitty business practice behind it is borderline sickening. I don't normally care if people play games I don't like (kind of a dumb thing to care about), but with Destiny's case, I make an exception. They sold a ton of copies and this might tip other devs off that, it's totally okay to sell a game with almost no story and then charge you for said story in future expansions. I really hope Destiny's success doesn't encourage other devs to do this, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see future EA and Ubisoft games employing this strategy.
The fact is, they shipped a demo scale version of the game for full price. That is Bullsh*t. MMOs have dozens of levels, dozens of dungeons and dozens of enemies. Destiny has a mere handful. That is Bullsh*t. We were promised the moon and all we got was some backroom Hollywood movie set. That is Bullsh*t.
I ended up quitting with a substantial amount of time into the game once it became apparent that it was... pointless bullshit. The current iteration has the highest level gated off behind a single raid that you can only run once a week and after that, you have the random number generator to contend with.
So the highest level, the only real goal to aim for because there is literally nothing else, is gated behind a single piece of content that you can only do once per week and in the mean time, essentially all you have to do are the same 5, 15 minute strikes over and over. Once the $20 DLC comes out next month, BIG CHANGES! The highest level increased to 32! Aaaand gated behind a single piece of content that you can only do once per week and you now have a whole 7, 15 minute strikes to do over and over.
So the highest level, the only real goal to aim for because there is literally nothing else, is gated behind a single piece of content that you can only do once per week and in the mean time, essentially all you have to do are the same 5, 15 minute strikes over and over. Once the $20 DLC comes out next month, BIG CHANGES! The highest level increased to 32! Aaaand gated behind a single piece of content that you can only do once per week and you now have a whole 7, 15 minute strikes to do over and over.