No Right Answer: Most Underrated Marvel Character - With Jim Sterling!

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Falterfire

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Raika said:
The most underrated Marvel character is She-Hulk. The only reason the Guardians of the Galaxy are getting a movie and She-Hulk isn't is because they can make yet another movie starring a white guy. She-Hulk is stronger than Thor, funnier than Mysterio, and hotter than Loki. Yeah, I said it. Come get me.

She-Hulk movie. Make it happen, Marvel.
Clearly the solution is to use the John Byrne version that breaks the fourth wall constantly and have Deadpool as the antagonist trying to take over the movie for himself. It'll be fun and combine two fan favorite characters!
 

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Falterfire said:
Raika said:
The most underrated Marvel character is She-Hulk. The only reason the Guardians of the Galaxy are getting a movie and She-Hulk isn't is because they can make yet another movie starring a white guy. She-Hulk is stronger than Thor, funnier than Mysterio, and hotter than Loki. Yeah, I said it. Come get me.

She-Hulk movie. Make it happen, Marvel.
Clearly the solution is to use the John Byrne version that breaks the fourth wall constantly and have Deadpool as the antagonist trying to take over the movie for himself. It'll be fun and combine two fan favorite characters!
If you put She-Hulk and Deadpool in the same room and they start fourth-wall-breaking, there won't be enough of it left to put back together when the dust settles.
 

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Leonardo Huizar said:
Squirrel Girl

Shes essentially a gag character but this gag character has: outwitted a army of souped up Nazi Mecha, beat Wolverine hand to hand, kicked Deadpool's arse, and taken down that one villain by herself oh whatshisname... THANOS
It's debatable of whether or not it was the actual Thanos she defeated, but still her other accomplishments make up for it. I just want to see the entire Great Lakes Avengers show up in the movieverse.
 

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tzimize said:
You know....about the diversity of marvel...Thor is a lady now (not a ladyboy even, a regular lady), Cap is a black man, nobody knows who the hell iron man is and there is an angel from a relatively unrelated universe in the avengers. How much diversity can fit in one screen?

More on topic: Asbestos Lady? Really? Eh....speechless.

Mysterio would be awesome to see on the silver screen though. I wouldnt mind Namor or Black Panther either for that matter.
Thor is a girl yes but that's not Odinson turned to a girl it's just that the new wielder of Mjolnir is a chick now
Captain America is The Falcon and it's not the first time someone else has taken over that role
Iron Man is still Tony Stark that much has been confirmed
and that angel in the Avengers, I assume you mean Angela in which case it's been "revealed" she's Odin's daughter, Thor and Loki's sister...

back on topic: Mysterio would make a hell of a villain and Asbestos Lady... really? Didn't you see Breaking Bad? We all know what white people that need money do when they get cancer. It would be a retelling of that story but with more boobs...
 

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Well now we have to see the DC version of this one! Chop chop get to making it!

Thanks in advance :D
 

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i4njw said:
Does Daredevil count as underrated? In comic circles, he's pretty well loved (mainly because Waid and his ongoing is great) but in the public eye, everyone only knows him from that dopey movie. If he qualifies, he's definitely my pick.
Agreed on Waid's excellent run with Daredevil, bringing back the swashbuckling adventure feel and bringing it away from the dark-n-grittiness Miller introduced back in, what, the 70's or something. I think DD's still an Avenger.
On the "Mysterio has cancer" thing, when he found out he was dying, he picked a fight with Daredevil because he thought Spider-Man was replaced with a clone again.
For everyone rooting for a She-Hulk movie, yeah I want it too, but first they have to get the Hulk's movies back up off the ground, so they can introduce Bruce Banner's cousin Jennifer Walters, and have her get that ill-fated blood transfusion.
 

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I liked how this episode's format was run. Very unique and funny. Even to the point where Jim Sterling was trying to gauge it by saying "Before you even say anything...!" like he was going in for the OHKO designed for this system. I'd like to see you guys do more of it.
 

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Ima Lemming said:
So what Jim is saying is I can blame Mysterio for Marvel unleashing a story about the Hulk banging She-Hulk and spawning a bunch of of inbred cannibal Hulks on the world.

Seriously. [http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-ridiculous-attempts-to-reinvent-superheroes_p2/]
Old Man Logan was great. It's not blame that needs to be assigned, but praise!
 

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GZGoten said:
tzimize said:
You know....about the diversity of marvel...Thor is a lady now (not a ladyboy even, a regular lady), Cap is a black man, nobody knows who the hell iron man is and there is an angel from a relatively unrelated universe in the avengers. How much diversity can fit in one screen?

More on topic: Asbestos Lady? Really? Eh....speechless.

Mysterio would be awesome to see on the silver screen though. I wouldnt mind Namor or Black Panther either for that matter.
Thor is a girl yes but that's not Odinson turned to a girl it's just that the new wielder of Mjolnir is a chick now
Captain America is The Falcon and it's not the first time someone else has taken over that role
Iron Man is still Tony Stark that much has been confirmed
and that angel in the Avengers, I assume you mean Angela in which case it's been "revealed" she's Odin's daughter, Thor and Loki's sister...

back on topic: Mysterio would make a hell of a villain and Asbestos Lady... really? Didn't you see Breaking Bad? We all know what white people that need money do when they get cancer. It would be a retelling of that story but with more boobs...
So Angela is not Angela from the Spawn universe? Or is this the Marvel version of her?

Blech. I'm just sick and tired of new people (or ofttimes even they are old) in old costumes. If you want another black superhero, another woman, another chinese guy whatever the hell it is....why not MAKE one? Honestly. They are working in a business that should be exploding with creativity, they have parallel universes for gods sake. Planets all over the universe, other dimensions, even the liberty to write stories from other times and or timelines...and all they can manage is put someone we know in someone elses costume? Pathetic. I wish they would just stop.

I KNOW there has to be a business reason for it. Marketability or whatever...but I just dont understand WHY that is. If someone loves a particular superhero, they want to read about THAT superhero. People dont love captain america for his costume. They love him for Steve Rogers. If you want to write about Falcon, WRITE ABOUT FALCON. Why does he need caps costume? Same goes for Thorina or whatever. Sure, give us an Asgardian God-heroine, but does it have to be a lady-Thor? How does that make sense for the character at all?

I'm also so friggin sick of people not batting an eyelash when its one way, but it cant be the other. Imagine: Wonder Man, the White Panther. Ugh, I can barely even write it in a post...

Ah well...I see I've gone off on a rant. Apologies for the derailing. Its late, and I'm grumpy.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Dan beat Jim? How did this happen?
I wouldnt' say I beat him, he simply remembered that he had explosive diarrhea. Or maybe there was a truck barreling towards Dan, and he was looking the other way and couldnt' see it. Or perhaps it was an illusion put on by Mysterio?
 

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Firefilm said:
canadamus_prime said:
Dan beat Jim? How did this happen?
I wouldnt' say I beat him, he simply remembered that he had explosive diarrhea. Or maybe there was a truck barreling towards Dan, and he was looking the other way and couldnt' see it. Or perhaps it was an illusion put on by Mysterio?
Don't be modest. Beating Jim is like toppling a Titan. You should be shouting your victory from the rooftops.
 

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Leonardo Huizar said:
Squirrel Girl

Shes essentially a gag character but this gag character has: outwitted a army of souped up Nazi Mecha, beat Wolverine hand to hand, kicked Deadpool's arse, and taken down that one villain by herself oh whatshisname... THANOS
Remember, even Thanos the Mad Titan will think twice when a squirrel runs up his trouser leg after his nuts.
 

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bluepotatosack said:
Ima Lemming said:
So what Jim is saying is I can blame Mysterio for Marvel unleashing a story about the Hulk banging She-Hulk and spawning a bunch of of inbred cannibal Hulks on the world.

Seriously. [http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-most-ridiculous-attempts-to-reinvent-superheroes_p2/]
Old Man Logan was great. It's not blame that needs to be assigned, but praise!
But... inbred Hulks... cannibals... and I had to read about it thanks to Mysterio...
 

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Hahaha...I'm dying over here! Bravo guys!

Incidentally....I vote for...SQUIRREL GIRL!!!!!

canadamus_prime said:
Dan beat Jim? How did this happen?
Never! That was totally a draw! TBH...if anyone could pull it off...it'd have to be Dan...lol!
 

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Seracen said:
Hahaha...I'm dying over here! Bravo guys!

Incidentally....I vote for...SQUIRREL GIRL!!!!!

canadamus_prime said:
Dan beat Jim? How did this happen?
Never! That was totally a draw! TBH...if anyone could pull it off...it'd have to be Dan...lol!
Aww, you make me blush.
 

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But, but, the Blue Marvel!
He's stronger than the Hulk, capable of flying at sub-light speed, and has a host of other powers. He spends his leisure time studying the effects of antimatter in an underwater base somewhere deep in the Pacific.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Dan beat Jim? How did this happen?
Probably because nobody bothered to say that Mysterio is basically Marvel's version of DC's Scarecrow, and arguably everything Mysterio has done, Scarecrow has also done, and probably better. This includes using fear to turn people on/kill their allies, and he's also a fairly decent fighter using his "mad kicking" which he refers to as "Crane Style Kung Fu" (though this is oftentimes forgotten). Scarecrow, like Poison Ivy, has also hit well above his weight class on numerous occasions as a lot of very powerful characters like Superman are not totally immune to chemicals, pheromones, etc... and thus version of his fear gas have even brought them down. Like Mysterio, Scarecrow tends to be most effective when you don't know who your up against.

I'd say that to be an underappreciated Marvel character you'd have to bring up something that Marvel has, that doesn't invite an immediate analogy to something from their main competition in that whole back and forth.

My entry into this competition would have probably been Darkhawk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkhawk

The short version is Darkhawk is a guy who has the ability to switch places with a powerful android body which he projects his mind into. A sort of clever variation on the whole "battle suit hero" thing. I thought he was going places for a while, but then kind of disappeared into obscurity, he shows up here and there, and is usually pretty cool when he does, but he just doesn't catch on.

Someone mentioned Squirrel Girl, but overall I don't think she's underappreciated at all, she's used more frequently than you might think, and there is a decent awareness of her. The recurring gag would get old if it was overdone, and she HAS gotten a semi-regular gig by acting as Luke Cage's baby sitter, though I have some concern that using her too much or getting too deep with the development will sort of ruin it.

As far as gag characters in Marvel that are underappreciated though, there was a guy for a while called "Slapstick" who was basically a living cartoon. To justify this power set (which is largely durability and body morphing) along with the appearance he was defined as a guy who had his body turned into unstable molecules, the same stuff Mr. Fantastic invented that most super heroes use for their costumes (the molecules adjust so as not to be destroyed by someone's powers), which was a fairly clever way of explaining on how something so absurd might actually come to be. He'd be another candidate for underappreciated, obscure, characters.

Of course then again I do have to admit Asbestos Girl was also pretty clever, you don't see many characters that ridiculous that are then used fairly seriously (even as a way of killing them off). It now has me wonder if she'll ever be back in some form (if it hasn't already happened). Many years ago there was this thing called "The Bar With No Name" massacre where a dude called Scourge pretty much decimated a whole stable of utterly ridiculous villains Marvel still had lurking around in a sort of house cleaning, albeit some of them wound up coming back I believe... so really how dumb a character is doesn't ensure permanent erasure. :)

The big thing though is that if we're thanking god for Jim, does this mean Dan was sent by the other guy from the fiery place? :)
 

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Therumancer said:
canadamus_prime said:
Dan beat Jim? How did this happen?
Probably because nobody bothered to say that Mysterio is basically Marvel's version of DC's Scarecrow, and arguably everything Mysterio has done, Scarecrow has also done, and probably better. This includes using fear to turn people on/kill their allies, and he's also a fairly decent fighter using his "mad kicking" which he refers to as "Crane Style Kung Fu" (though this is oftentimes forgotten). Scarecrow, like Poison Ivy, has also hit well above his weight class on numerous occasions as a lot of very powerful characters like Superman are not totally immune to chemicals, pheromones, etc... and thus version of his fear gas have even brought them down. Like Mysterio, Scarecrow tends to be most effective when you don't know who your up against.

I'd say that to be an underappreciated Marvel character you'd have to bring up something that Marvel has, that doesn't invite an immediate analogy to something from their main competition in that whole back and forth.
That's fascinating, but you realize that my comment had nothing to do with Jim and Dan's entries and everything to do with Jim's public persona.