No Right Answer: Worst Father Ever

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minuialear

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DarkRyter said:
Also, Avatar ain't Japanese. Not anime. Not like it matters, though.
restoshammyman said:
"anime is dumb". sorry to break it to ya. avatar is not anime. it was made by Nickelodeon
Eabus said:
1. Anime is from Japan, avatar is not from Japan so it is anime-ish
GoWithDAFro said:
1. Avatar is not anime. seriously.
http://www.answers.com/topic/anime

Anime is a style. Thus the country a show was made in makes no difference in whether it can be considered anime or not; what matters is whether the style of the show is consistent with the anime style (which Avatar is fairly consistent with).



OT: Gendou Ikari has to be the worst anime father ever, but between these two...I think I'd say Goku. Ozai was a dick to Zuko, but he spoiled Azula like many normal fathers might, so he demonstrated that he *does* understand the concept of (comparatively) normal parenting. Goku consistently put all of his children in some sort of danger, mostly involving pitting them against foes they had no business fighting against. Sure he died for his family a few times, but that's partially because of the Dragon Balls, and partially because he's an idiot and can't strategize outside of "Imma fight this dude by punching. Hopefully it works" and "I can't beat this dude by punching so Imma die and take him out with me. Hopefully it works."

Also I think endangering your kids without even being cognicent of the fact that you're doing it is worse than purposefully doing it, because knowing that it's happening at least allows for the possiblity to change things; if you don't know/think that anything wrong's going on, then nothing will change.
 

Alar

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Oh Dan, give in to the anime. The anime is good.

Sometimes.

And yeah, definitely Ozai. Goku may not be around a lot, but he's still pretty awesome. Ozai is just a dick. :(
 

ZZoMBiE13

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Gotta go with Ozai. Don't forget, when Zuko was to be hunted as a traitor, the bastard sent his own sister to kill him. How's that for messed up?

Plus, you know, he was voiced by Mark Hamill. So win win for Ozai: The Pheonix King.
 

Toriver

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Ozai was definitely the worse father. While Goku really wasn't around very much for Gohan's childhood, everything he did was still for the sake of Gohan and the rest of his family and friends. In many cases, if Goku had not done what he did, Gohan would have fallen into a far worse fate.

Contrast this to Ozai, who basically treated his son as an enemy the moment Zuko lifted a finger in criticism. Kyle made a far better point in that while Goku's absence may have ended up putting Gohan into some perilous situations, Ozai drove Zuko away, with the consequence of Zuko defecting to the other side willingly to spite him. Now THAT's some bad parenting!
 

gruggins

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while Goku is kind of neglectful of his son, he has good intentions.
Ozai however, is a monster he pourposely SCARRED AND BANISHED HIS OWN SON! for what? independant thinking?

I'd say that people who do wrong intentionally are worse than those who do wrong unintentially.
 

DanielDeFig

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I don't know Dragon Ball Z, so that's the main reason I pick Ozai.

Rarhnor said:
Ozai, while incredibly mean and downright evil to his own son, takes care of his other child Azula. Sure, Ozai is a bad father to Zuko, but not to Azula whom gets pandering and encouragement from him.
I'm afraid I don't agree that Ozai is a good father even to Azula. He doesn't care about her either, he uses her because he knows he can.
The only reason Ozai pays any attention to Azula at all, is because she is a Firebending prodigy, something he can use for political and military ends.
So , while his wife was making sure their son was getting any love at all (Ozai wasn't going to waste time on a son that he had no use for), Ozai decided to "pick up the slack" where Azula was concerned, by encouraging her manipulativeness and cruelty.
This way, she was loyal to him (as far as she's concerned he's the oly one who "cared" about her: i.e. paid attention to her) and she grew up to be an excellent strategist, political schemer, and a Firebending master, who did everything Ozai told her to do.
 

rokkolpo

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Come on people.

Ozai burned his son's face!
That's beyond reasoning!

Sure goku might send his (very capable) son into battle, but that's because Gohan kicks major ass!

Zuko is a little frightened kid that got fucked by his dad in every possible way, neglect, abuse, banishment, attempted murder.

Ozai sucks!

(And everyone here (that loves DBZ) wished Goku was their father anyway, no matter how small his attention span is)
 

MCrewdson001

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They are both bad but Ozai burned part of his sons face off then threw him out so I have to go for Ozai
 

Aptspire

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Gendo Ikari...seriously, why wasn't he in the choices?
I now pronounce you both guilty! Of not using the obvious!
Sentence: DEATH! BY GENDOWNED!!!
 

Hitchmeister

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I'm gonna have to vote Team Dan on this one. I would ask "who cares?" on this. But only so I could point and laugh at everyone who raises their hand.
 

TheLastSamurai14

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Much as I think Ozai's a dick for scarring and abandoning Zuko in one fell swoop, I gotta give this one to Goku. Seriously, his own son chose an alien, Goku's WORST ENEMY before the Saiyan Saga, over him on multiple occasions. That's really saying something, right there.
 

Clankenbeard

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Ozai,

Goku means well. He's really just kind of socailly retarded. Social escapades simply asides in between big battles and anybody he emotionally scarred in the process was not intentional. [Involuntary Manslaughter Dad]

Ozai knew what he was doing. He had no tolerance for his less-than-perfect son Zuko and acted accordingly. [Murder 1 Dad]
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Ozai definately I mean look at how Azula turns out.../shudder.

The man is a horrible, horrible father. I doubt he even cares he has kids.