No Right Answer: Worst Instance When Fans Didn't Show Up

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minuialear

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
minuialear said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
*Please note this is all in good fun, I do not wish any damning upon anyone except Nintendo for not releasing Mother 3.
You want to wish damnation on a company for not wanting to pay more money to sell a franchise in the U.S. than they would probably get in profits from selling said franchise in the U.S.?
Somehow, I highly doubt it will cost all that much to translate the game into English and put it on the Virtual Console for the Wii/3DS. So yes, I am damning them, but not for the idiotic reason you had suggested.
They have to localize it, do advertising, host files, and possibly do other things. This also quite possibly requires pulling people from teams doing things potentially more profitable than this franchise in order to do so. It's not necessarily just a "let's upload this and sell it" process. Unless there's a significant incentive for Nintendo to do so (which clearly there's not, given they haven't done it yet), it's not worth the efforts of the company to divert any resources to a project that a minority of its consumers will actually buy. If you think that logic is "idiotic," then you clearly have no experience running a profitable business. Acting like they're not releasing it because they're too lazy to do something that would make them a large profit (arguably not the case) or because they like being witholding (also arguably not the case) is the idiotic standpoint, in this scenario.
 

Kapol

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I did my part with Scott Pilgrim too. Went to see the movie twice, and pulled a friend with me the second time. Also bought the blu-ray combo pack on the date it was released and I got another friend enough into it where he bought the blu-ray pack as well. It really is too bad it didn't do better.

But there's one point that Kyle didn't make that I saw. Chris is right that we did get Scott Pilgrim. But I don't think Kyle really drove the point home that, by getting Scott Pilgrim, we've pretty much screwed ourselves for getting any more 'risky' movies. It bombed in the box office. Reguardless of DVD/Blu-ray sales, the movie was considered a failure overall by many. That really damned a lot of the content that could have been produced in my opinion. It leads to safer bets and more simplistic movies in the long run. The only real 'nerd' movies we might get are super-hero movies. And to be honest... I'm getting kinda sick of them. Avengers looks amazing, but after that... meh. MovieBob talked about how Scott Pilgrim might have directly effected another movie in the episode of The Big Picture called 'The Numbers.' It is something that we'll likely feel the effects of for a while.

As for Earthbound/Mother 3, it does exist. It's been made. They'll likely keep making the series as long as it makes money. Just because we don't get it in the US doesn't mean we can't get a hold of it. Does it suck we don't get it in English? Yes. But the idea that we 'aren't getting it at all' is a flawed one. Nintendo likely won't stop making a lot of games based on Mother's failure. We might not get them in the US, but it doesn't mean they won't exist.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Well, me and all of my friends saw Scott Pilgrim together at the movies. Hell, I bought it on blu-ray.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:


The Milkman thinks there's something else you missed out on.
I just beat this game last year, and I want to punch my 8-year old self for not buying it. I've bought the game three times already. Once for myself and twice as a gift for my friends on steam.
 

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I blame marketing for most of these failures. I don't know whether they thought "The internet already say they'll love it, no need to make a big campaign for it, our work's already done!" or whether they just don't know how to market to geeks, but I for one had never heard of any of these until long after they were released, and even then it was usually through word of mouth. For some of these, such as Earthbound, this article is the first I've ever heard of it.
 

DustyDrB

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2xDouble said:
I have nothing to add to this conversation that wasn't already said by Cracked:
Snakes on a Plane? How does it fit on that list? It always struck me as a film more along the lines of Epic Movie or whatever else they have in that series.

Anyway...I'd go with Earthbound as well. Other RPGs thrived then, why not Earthbound?

On a positive note, it is the fans who kept Chuck alive long enough for the writers to end the show on their own terms (well....the fans and Subway). I'll always be grateful for that. Chuck fans have a sort of notoriety for recommending the show ad nauseum. It never gained relatively many viewers, but the ones who were there stuck with it and were passionate about it.
 

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Well, we had a good reason for not getting earthbound, most of us were kids at the time, which doesn't leave us with lots of money, In fact, a lot of us (myself included) were fetuses, and thus lacking in the sentience department.
As for any of us who had spending money at the time, yeah, it totally was your fault that we never got Mother 3.

As for scott pilgrim. Well I'll have to refer to other comic movies for this.
Now, let's reference Marvel here, even if you've never read one of their comics, you know what to expect, they're culturally relevant after all.

Scott Pilgrim VS The World on the other hand had two possible audiences
1)people who had no idea what it was, and so had no reason to see the movie.
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2)people who read the same story in comic format, and so had no reason to see the movie.

The problem was, not many people had any idea who Scott was unless they already read the comic.

Unfortunately, fame is cyclical, so we'll mostly only be getting comic movies from the big two.
That is, unless some independent artist strikes gold again.




Anyhow that's my $0.02
 

Electrogecko

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I didn't even know what Scott Pilgrim was when I went to go see it.

Now I'm considering buying Xenoblade Chronicles....though I'm not quite sure what it is.
 

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I was too young for earthbound when it came out.
I went a saw Scott Pilgram and Kickass I just don't get what is wrong with some people. I know the outside is scary and has the burning sunlight but movies aare on at night. GO SEE THEM

Also horrible boss was hilarious but is not a sequal type movie, all they can do is remake it like Hangover 2.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:


The Milkman thinks there's something else you missed out on.
Indeed, Psychonauts was the first thing that came to my head regarding fans not coming out for support. I didn't buy Psychonauts until about a year or two after its release, despite being a fan of Grim Fandango, and I deeply regret it.

Really, really sorry Double Fine.

Regarding Scott Pigrim, or whatever it's called, isn't it quite reasonable why geeks didn't go to the cinema to see it? Because many outcasts and geeks don't go the cinema. Many of the people interested in that film are the kinds of people who'd have to watch it by themselves. And we all know that watching a film on the big screen by yourself is somewhat embarrassing... so people waited for it to come out on DVD instead.
 

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Rebellious_Gate said:
On the Xenoblade Chronicles front. I won't be buying it either, but I live in the U.K. and had access without the begging. So my abstaining has no effect on the overall success of Operation Rainfall. None of you can call me a bad gamer.
Not sure why people in the states are interested in Xenoblade Chronicles. It's a really, really mediocre JRPG. They'd be better off petitioning to play a great game instead.
 

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Didn't Scott Plgrim do well on DVD/Blu-ray? Because I know a lot of people (who aren't exactly gamers) who have seen the film. In fact, I think I read something about it being one of the Top 10 best-selling DVDs on Amazon in the UK in the week after release. So yeah, I'd say EarthBound (even though half the reason for it's failure in the USA seemed to be it's godawful advertising campaign).
 

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Totally just played through Earthbound again last week, I will always to this day thank my 12 year old self for buying such an awesome game.
 

uneek

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UNHchabo said:
esperandote said:
I didn't like Scott Pilgrim, I thought it wasn't much more than gamers fan services.
Yeah, Scott Pilgrim seemed to me to be the same kind of pandering to geek culture as The Big Bang Theory. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it looked like to me.
Now see, I disagree with both those statements. I'm not that much of a gamer and understood very few of the references it was making. I still Scott Pilgrim as more than just a "gamer's fanservice" IMHO, it had a pretty original story with great characters and great humor. The references are just part of the style and it wasn't distracting at all.

Also, while I'm not a bib fan of Big Bang Theory(the only parts I find interesting are the ones with Sheldon), I still don't see where the idea that it's some huge Shout-Out-fest comes from. I only ever hear 1 or 2 references in each episodes, and they're usually so mainstream a non-gamer would get them.
 

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theheroofaction said:
Scott Pilgrim VS The World on the other hand had two possible audiences
1)people who had no idea what it was, and so had no reason to see the movie.
OR
2)people who read the same story in comic format, and so had no reason to see the movie.

The problem was, not many people had any idea who Scott was unless they already read the comic.
They could have seen the movie to learn about him. You don't go to every movie knowing who the characters are.
 

theheroofaction

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uneek said:
He has raised a dead thread, Surely he is the forum messiah.

Anyhow, whilst you do have a point,it still leaves the movie with a much smaller audience than if Scott Pilgrim was more well known.
 

uneek

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theheroofaction said:
uneek said:
He has raised a dead thread, Surely he is the forum messiah.

Anyhow, whilst you do have a point,it still leaves the movie with a much smaller audience than if Scott Pilgrim was more well known.
The last reply was April. I didn't think it was that old. This isn't something I could get banned for, right?

Also, Agreed.