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GrimTuesday

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When watching something be it on TV or a movie we often find ourselves wondering aloud, "what the fuck were you thinking you fucking moron, its fucking wrong". When this happens we're stuck with two choices, either go with the Mystery Science Theater 3000 course of action and repeat to yourself that its just a show, and you should probably just relax, or, my perfected choice, ***** about it loudly.

So the question I put to you, what are some examples that make you take the latter path, (be it obvious mistakes the character makes, problems with the accuracy of the movie, obvious scientific wrongness, canon rape, etc.)?

For me, its historical inaccuracies. For example, every time I see Braveheart and it comes to the Battle of Stirling Bridge and there is no fucking bridge, I can't help but spend the next few minutes bitching about the fact there is no bridge. Also, (although this is much more minor) when I see movies with King Richard the Lionheart in them, and he is talking in a British accent and speaking about how much he loves England, I can't help but be irritated by the fact that that's not how he was in actuality (if the historical sources are to be believed). Supposedly, he spoke mostly French, and spent something like 4 months in England over the course of his 10 year reign (Granted he was off crusading most of it, but that's neither here nor there.).

So what are some examples of things that piss you off when watching movies or TV shows?
 

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Blatant disregard for the laws of physics.

In Spider-Man 2, There is a sun. In an room. With people in it. There is an object with sustained nuclear fusion in the centre of a not too massive room, and there are living people occupying that same room for more than thousandth of a second. Nevermind the fact that something that hot just left out in the open would melt a city block with not all that great difficulty, but you actually have people watching this in the SAME ROOM.

And the start of 2012, Neutrinos? Causing the whole Earth to bonkers? Dafuq? That is like me saying that the sun (a pretty average, stable star) has just decided to scrap that whole "weak nuclear force" thing and do whatever the F*** it likes. NO 2012 directors, just NO.

And there was some stupid movie with Owls, "legend of the Guardians" or something like that, in which these little owls wore HUGE METAL MASKS. And not thin ones either. Yet they had agile dogfights all over the show.

So annoying...
 

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Hollywood does not know how computers, or computer games, work.

This does not stop them from creating their own games, hackers, computer experts, hardware, etc.

Particularly with games, I understand, licensing costs money. But seriously, you could put a little more effort into it...


This, and scenes like it, are what really grind my gears.
 

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I hate how only the main character know how to use a weapon properly, and those 50 million bad guys were just hired today straight out of grade school.

There was one western movie that had a shootout I loved. It lasted about 5 seconds,the 4 badguys died, and the 2 good guys ended up severely wounded. When asked what happened, one responded "everyone knew how to shoot."
 

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Hah hah hah hah... Whenever I'm up against such a thing that matters (like history or physics in a media that's trying to be serious), I snark therefore I am...but I do not dwell on it. Hollywood got it wrong or let it play by rule of cool.

EXAMPLE: Right, so in the MST3K episode "Radar Secret Service", you have a boring movie being joked about in which men of the 'RSS' proclaim boldly the incredible power of radar. Well, radar IS handy, but IT CAN'T READ A SCHOOL OF FISH IN DEEP WATER. That's sonar and sonar's lucky if it can pick up something like that. I joked over the guys a bit on this because it was pure stupidity, but it did not ruin the film for me.
 

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brandon237 said:
Blatant disregard for the laws of physics.
And the start of 2012, Neutrinos? Causing the whole Earth to bonkers? Dafuq? That is like me saying that the sun (a pretty average, stable star) has just decided to scrap that whole "weak nuclear force" thing and do whatever the F*** it likes. NO 2012 directors, just NO.
If you've never seen this bit, it illustrates just how silly that line is.


Another thing I dislike is when they use explosives that create the wrong effect. Its like when they have "plastic explosives" and whatever they're blowing up bursts into flames, which is what happens when gasoline explodes. Yeah, I know they do it because the big mass of fire looks a lot cooler than a giant puff of smoke, but still, its just infuriating.

Also, anytime someone throws a sword, you do not ever throw a sword, EVER!!!!! I'm looking at you The Last Samurai.
 

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GrimTuesday said:
brandon237 said:
Blatant disregard for the laws of physics.
And the start of 2012, Neutrinos? Causing the whole Earth to bonkers? Dafuq? That is like me saying that the sun (a pretty average, stable star) has just decided to scrap that whole "weak nuclear force" thing and do whatever the F*** it likes. NO 2012 directors, just NO.
If you've never seen this bit, it illustrates just how silly that line is.


Another thing I dislike is when they use explosives that create the wrong effect. Its like when they have "plastic explosives" and whatever they're blowing up bursts into flames, which is what happens when gasoline explodes. Yeah, I know they do it because the big mass of fire looks a lot cooler than a giant puff of smoke, but still, its just infuriating.

Also, anytime someone throws a sword, you do not ever throw a sword, EVER!!!!! I'm looking at you The Last Samurai.
Oh good lordy I rofled!
And I just watched the original clip again. They suddenly act like microwaves. The neutrinos. Oh hell if I could throw lawsuits at people for blatant abuse of science those directors would be dead.

And explosives is a damn good point. You can actually use many types of explosives to remove the fire from an area, not add to it.
 

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GrimTuesday said:
For me, its historical inaccuracies. For example, every time I see Braveheart and it comes to the Battle of Stirling Bridge and there is no fucking bridge, I can't help but spend the next few minutes bitching about the fact there is no bridge. Also, (although this is much more minor) when I see movies with King Richard the Lionheart in them, and he is talking in a British accent and speaking about how much he loves England, I can't help but be irritated by the fact that that's not how he was in actuality (if the historical sources are to be believed). Supposedly, he spoke mostly French, and spent something like 4 months in England over the course of his 10 year reign (Granted he was off crusading most of it, but that's neither here nor there.).

So what are some examples of things that piss you off when watching movies or TV shows?
The King Richard thing is even worse than that. He bankrupted Britain with massive taxes to pay for those crusades! And there are records that he fucking hated Britain as a place :p


As for the ones that annoy me:

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leet_x1337 said:
Hollywood does not know how computers, or computer games, work.
I was going to say this!
It's when they create custom OS that it makes me laugh. CSI is particularly guilty of this.
Though one film to notably not do it is Contagion. The lab machines in that is using modified Windows 2K, which is probably accurate!


Science in film in general. Has anyone seen Dara o Brien talking abo-
GrimTuesday said:
GODDAMMIT!

How about idiocy driven horror films? No one? Yes, I have some originality left!
I was watching Insidious last night (for laughs; at it not with it - don't judge me). And everyone in that film is fucking stupid. Really fucking stupid. Innfact, it's fair to say that I'd do a much better job at protecting myself from demons and I don't even believe in fucking demons!
Even in supposed "truestorybro" films like 'The Haunting in Connecticut' everyone is so fucking stupid! The house is haunted you say? Ghostly apparitions you say? Move out! Leave the fucking lights on! Don't wander off on your own! Jesus Christ!
 

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leet_x1337 said:
Hollywood does not know how computers, or computer games, work.

This does not stop them from creating their own games, hackers, computer experts, hardware, etc.

Particularly with games, I understand, licensing costs money. But seriously, you could put a little more effort into it...


This, and scenes like it, are what really grind my gears.
In one law and order episode I belive a fat women says she met her gaming husband at a "xbox convention in south Korea"...theres so much wrong in that statement that it caues a black hole of WTF

or for another NCIS episode where one lady held the "highschore" for every MMO ever......thats impossible unless your a timelord or god (and lets not get started on what "highscore" actually means)

anyway..for me its the assumption that guys are just goofy and fun loving who like to do whacky things where as women are miserable shrews who want to ruin your fun and make you have a family (and no videogames)
 

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Blatant disregard for historical accuracy is my bug-bear. I walked out half way through U-571 because it was just so terrible. The only reason I didn't walk out of Pearl Harbor was because it wasn't worth the wrath I would have to fave for leaving the missus alone in the pictures.
 

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I don't know if this counts but...

Every detail that M. Night Shyamalan got wrong in The Last Airbender.

I could write a fucking minute-by-minute review of that film and point out every minor and major fault with that film.

As for the portrayal of hacking, computers, video games/gamers and all that, yeah, that's why I stopped watching NCIS. That, and the "US Marines are the greatest humans in the world" bullshit that was rampant in that show.
 

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I like the magic software that can get turn 10 pixels into a crystal clear image. It has become so common in movies that at this point, we're not even supposed to question it.

Or how the only smart and reasonable (at least, to an extent) person is the bad guy.
I saw "Thor" not too long ago and Loki (or whatever his name was) was the only character I could root for. I didn't care for the blond jock who started a war because he was bored, his dumb father who chose him to be the king or his gang of blind followers who, instead of questioning his reckless behaviour, just went along for a killing spree with him.
I guess Thor was supposed to learn a lesson on Earth and become a better person but he just found a bland love interest and fought a giant robot. There was no real arc. He was just as much of an asshole at the end of the movie as he was at the beginning.

I don't care much for historical accuracy or real life physics. As long as everything is consistent within the reality of the movie, it's OK.
I also don't care about staying true to the source material, contradictions etc.
 

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srm79 said:
Blatant disregard for historical accuracy is my bug-bear. I walked out half way through U-571 because it was just so terrible. The only reason I didn't walk out of Pearl Harbor was because it wasn't worth the wrath I would have to fave for leaving the missus alone in the pictures.
Your missus must be fearsome indeed if Pearl Harbor was preferable to any amount of wrath!

But seriously, U-571 is just terrible. For anyone else interested, this a non-exhaustive list of inaccuracies in that film:
The Poles Captured the first enigma machine in 1939 and sent it to the Brits and the French. The Poles also did an awful lot of the groundwork that led to later allied breakthroughs
The British HMS Bulldog captured the first Naval Engima machine in May 1941
The wartime enigma machine was broken in 1940, successive variants were broken later.
Of 15 Enigma Captures during WW2 13 were British, one was Canadian, and one was American in 1944 - after the codes had been broken for years
U-Boat crews did not attack seacrew who's boats had been sunk. In fact on several occasions they rescued them. The Kriegsmarine mostly hated Hitler, so trying to make them look like Nazis so ignorant viewers would make the connection was just foul.
The real U-571 wasn't captured at all - it was sunk by the RAF
Submarine on submarine kills were next to unheard of during WW2

Das Boot anyone?


Captcha: "Exceedingly well read" - Well, I don't like to brag....
 

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Pretty much half the stuff that happens in the CSI episode ' Fur and Loathing'
 

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I will tell you what consistently annoys me is when people making killer shark or killer prehistoric monster or killer whatever else do absolutely NO research on them at all. Like none.
For instance in Deep Blue Sea, there is a scene where someone lowers what the characters claim to be a tiger shark except that it looks nothing like a bloody tiger shark.
Tiger sharks have square heads and they are grey, that thing was a pointy headed great white that had been painted yellow and given stripes. You seriously couldn't even google image search the bloody things?
Plus then there are the false information given in movies like this. For instance as much as I loved The Grey, it's very problematic that the behavior of the grey wolves depicted in this movie is so innaccurate to their actual behavior in the real world. When they had only just escaped extinction because of people killing them for their undeserved fierce reptutation it's not great that a movie then brings it right back again.
To be fair the filmmakers did put proper information about the grey wolf on the official website so that's a point to them.
But still I see this happen so much its insulting, movie makers make up facts about animals. Like in that crappy movie Primeval (about Gustave the killer crocodile), ignoring the fact that they were taking a real life horror and making it into cheap popcorn entertainment for Western Audiences, they again, have no idea how crocodiles actually are. They aren't that fast moving and they don't need to eat very much.

It annoys me because a lot of animals have a bad enough reputation as it is, without movies getting facts wrong and making it worse. The movie Jaws almost caused the extinction of the Great White Shark and it worries me what other movies might do the same later on.
 

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When someone gets shot by a gun held by someone the same size, and they fly 12 feet backwards and the shooter does not.

Men in Black actually got this right...for laughs. The "Noisy Cricket" has the power to blast a great big hole in things, so naturally Will Smith gets hits by a hell of a lot of recoil. Ok, in reality the gun would be torn out of his hand (or hand from wrist) rather than him being picked up and tossed about, but still.

Ok, recoiless guns or munitions that do their own thing after leaving the weapon (accelerate in the case of rockets, explode in the case of artillery shells), fine, shooters who are much more massive than the target, fine. Otherwise no.

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But it really pisses me off when a movie is based on true events. You aren't just making shit up, you are making shit up about actual people.
 

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OneCatch said:
How about idiocy driven horror films? No one?
Me to, YEY, I'm not original
I watched three of the Halloween movies least ummm Halloween (I think it was those movies, Michel mires was the bad guy), it was the first, fifth and sixth I think, by the time the time he's pulled the same shit six times shouldn't someone realise that he's probably not dead. one of them ended with him being electrocuted and burnt (after being kicked out of a first floor window) and they thought he was dead, fair enough assumption, but this was Michel Miers, why didn't the protagonists just smash his head in with a fucking sledgehammer, until its been ground into a fine past and then just burn whatever left. Problem solved.

Seeing as I'm not an expert in history, science or IT, I don't really notice when they mess up in that regard, But I do really hate it when things don't adhere to their own logic or any kind of realism, The show Bones for example, I like the show but seriously, how the hell can Angela do all that stuff with that computer, instant 3D models from photographs is as far as I know impossible, and why is she their in the first place, she isn't even a scientist she just acts really condescending towards people who are vastly more intelligent then her.