Nobody worships guns like America does

[AntiChri5]

There is always variation in design, yeah. Whether for specialization or legal reasons.

But are you seriously going to argue that guns aren't lethal weapons?

I think i read somewhere that more then 90% of gunshot wounds in America are nonfatal. Mostly because almost all are just one or two low caliber rounds from a pistol and modern medicine is awesome.

So yeah, guns aren't magical hellspawn that always instakill everything. I get that. But they are dangerous.

I have been quoted by way too many people, i think we are going off on a thousand barely relevant tangents. If people want to continue then i will, i don't wanna be one of those passive agressive assholes who refuses to respond. But i wanna get back to my basic argument and strip away the extraneous bullshit.

My argument is, essentially, that weapons are dangerous as a basic and deliberate function of their design. As such, they cannot be properly compared with many other items which are not.

 

[Ryotknife]

There is always variation in design, yeah. Whether for specialization or legal reasons.

But are you seriously going to argue that guns aren't lethal weapons?

I think i read somewhere that more then 90% of gunshot wounds in America are nonfatal. Mostly because almost all are just one or two low caliber rounds from a pistol and modern medicine is awesome.

So yeah, guns aren't magical hellspawn that always instakill everything. I get that. But they are dangerous.

I have been quoted by way too many people, i think we are going off on a thousand barely relevant tangents. If people want to continue then i will, i don't wanna be one of those passive agressive assholes who refuses to respond. But i wanna get back to my basic argument and strip away the extraneous bullshit.

My argument is, essentially, that weapons are dangerous as a basic and deliberate function of their design. As such, they cannot be properly compared with many other items which are not.

Well of course guns are dangerous. But lets be honest here, a lot of things are dangerous even if they are not meant to be.

Cars, hammers, knives, fire, gas, electricity, but if I started debating about how electricity should be heavily restricted and reduced you would probably look at me like im a loon.

Now don't get me wrong, I can understand where people from other countries are coming from. They are not near guns and so see it as exotic and dangerous. Let me tell you a little story.

Im from North East USA. For three years I lived and worked in the deep DEEP South. Now, the North doesn't have any animals that people would consider dangerous (although technically the two most dangerous animals in the US in terms of deaths are bees and deer, not wolves, bears, aligators, sharks, or poisonous critters). My job was mostly outdoors rummaging through enclosed equipment that sometimes hasn't been touched in over twenty years and we have safety meetings every once in awhile about possible dangers. Including poisonous snakes, black widow nests, and brown recluse.

Now me? Ive never been around poisonous critters. Hell the snakes we have are tiny. The thought that the areas I'm working in are very likely to have these animals nearly gave me a panic attack. Hell, my actions to an outsider observer would appear to be one of extreme paranoia. But to the people who lived down there? No big deal, they think nothing of it. Still dangerous, of course, but nothing to concern yourself with. I would hear stories all the time about how they would grab or swat a poisonous animal away from them and not be disturbed by it, even the brown recluse (whose bite causes necrosis!).

Now, ive gotten a little better being around the constant threat for awhile, but I will admit I don't think I will ever get used to being in an area with those kind of critters around. Don't you think the same situation might be applying to people's fear of guns?

Hell, look at how much crap Australia gets on these forums thanks to their wildlife (and ill admit im one of them). Meanwhile the Australian escapists are looking around with a "what the hell is the problem with these people?"

funny enough the same wisdom for poisonous/dangerous animals also apply to guns. Don't start #$%^ and you wont get #$%^

 

[AgedGrunt]

> I just don't understand the psychology of gun culture, or car culture for that matter, because they place a lot of value on things that are basically just dangerous tools, means to an end, that can't be used for their originally intended purpose unless one plans on breaking the law...

>> I also don't understand why gun culture is so widespread in the United States when compared to the rest of the world.

> There are many kinds of gun owners; reasons/interests vary. If you ask me there's a psychology of paranoia with guns. They require safety and responsibility like no other, but that's something we can easily have if we try. Accidents will happen and criminals will use them because they're the most powerful tools available. We can't change those facts, but we can change our attitudes.

>> We have a right to arms. We also began as a frontier nation (and have a history of war), so really we've always been familiar with them. Of course we have a massive industry, but I think it's just that we found something we like.

It isn't prejudice to recognize the difference between a weapon and a vehicle. There is nothing wrong with shooting for fun. There is everything wrong with forgetting that guns are designed to kill people with.

It's prejudice to judge guns as weapons for murder, and no one can really forget guns kill with these regards to them as assassins' tools. I don't care what people think they were designed for, it's not how the vast majority of them are used and that's not the mentality of the vast majority that have them.

 

[BoogieManFL]

Some people collect swords. Some people collect coins. Some people collect art.

This is no different.