Norwegian Mass Murderer Defends Gaming Habits

[Treblaine]

describe cold blooded murder of almost 80 unarmed people as self-defence

Well, if you think he is deranged for it, you should lobby to capture and put most american politicians into mental institutions as well.

Many have argued similar for other murders. If the victim is left or not white, it's usually excused like this. That's why Breivik is doing it, he's copying a defense strategy that works.

In fact, I remember people on this very side downplaying gun violence as not a big deal. HMMMM.

Precisely WHICH american politician ordered that ANY unarmed non-combatants - who had NO PART in any military or violent infrastructure - should be deliberately killed with premeditation with the sole intention of taking the lives of these innocent non-combatants? And how much has be been punished or marginalised for even suggesting such a thing?

Frankly I am insulted that you could compare the killing of notorious terrorist leaders, to the act of slaughtering a whole island full of children. You are trying to contrive a political comparison in a case clearly of utter deranged lunacy. You are taking a stance AGAINST the Norwegian prosecution (they are arguing for insanity) and playing right into Brevik's hands of contrived political legitimacy.

The killing of Usama Bin Laden is IN NO WAY SIMILAR AT ALL with the crimes of Brevik. I thought ONLY BREVIK would think that, it seems he is not alone in his twisted delusions of equivalence. Though I think your delusions is rather than for absolution be recrimination, that perhaps Obama should be put on trial for the raid on Usama Bin Laden's compound. Would you like that? To see America's first Black President in the dock for ridding the world of one of the most despicable and virulent mass murderers of the 21st century? If so, DO NOT CITE BREVIK IN THIS ISSUE!

What do you mean "this very side" Brevik doesn't have a "side" he is a lone lunatic that has precisely ZERO popular support, the only person he vaguely has on his side is a court-appointed defence lawyer.

Do NOT politicise this issue, that is PRECISELY what this lunatic want, he wants to back up his delusions with politics, but his motivations are from deep in his twisted brain, not any outside political movement in the wider will of the people.

 

[Fluffythepoo]

Clearly hes lying and games drove him to to kill those people.

 

[MetalMagpie]

Yes... because shooting 60-ish unarmed teenagers and blowing up a building is totaly self-defence... seriously who the fuck does he think will possibly fall for that?

I'm assuming no one. Pleading guilty would shorten his trial, giving him less of a platform.

The BBC's coverage gives me a picture of his "plan" as something like this:
1. Be incredibly xenophobic/racist.
2. Get world-wide media attention by killing a lot of innocent people.
3. Have aforementioned world-wide media hang on every word as you explain why you did it in court.
4. Preferably become a martyr. (He has already stated that the government should execute him, and called a long prison sentence "pathetic".)

The prosecution appear to be trying to derail this scheme by arguing that he's insane and should be put in a nut-house rather than go to prison. He has already stated that being declared insane (which would remove all meaning from his actions) would be "worse than death".

 

[MetalGenocide]

The guy ain't right in the head, brother! I can appreciate some good, honest craziness. But that guy? He's got something broke inside.
-Tychus Findlay

 

[Eleima]

I've never held a gun, but I'm willing to bet that firing a gun (let alone an AK-47) is a lot different from holding a mouse and clicking away.
You don't need to be a brain surgeon to figure that out, it's common sense...

 

[OniaPL]

Do people still give a fuck about this incident? I got bored ages ago. Just throw the dude into prison, be done with it and move on. Everyone's tired of acting outraged already.

 

[ElPatron]

At least until that last part. If I was into conspiracies, I'd be calling shenanigans on him suddenly admitting that he used CoD as a training tool. But I'm not.

"Suddenly"? We have known his claims about Modern Warfare for months.

why are all these mass murdering always blaming Islam in all their manifestos??

Because of the "let me live in your country and tell you how you should do things" that pisses everyone off. Not enough to kill, but just read the manifesto if you're so interested. It's not going to control your mind or anything.

I've never held a gun, but I'm willing to bet that firing a gun (let alone an AK-47) is a lot different from holding a mouse and clicking away.

Depends. I don't know what you mean with the "AK47" part, because they are extremely rare and Breivik did not use one, he used a Mini-14.

It helps building some habits and it gives you the ability to mentally handle the action of shooting at humans.

I am very willing to bet that people exposed to first person shooters make more efficient shooters.

 

[minimacker]

Mass-murderer denies that video games influenced his hating racist murders. Media claims the exact opposite.

 

[tjarne]

Yes... because shooting 60-ish unarmed teenagers and blowing up a building is totaly self-defence... seriously who the fuck does he think will possibly fall for that?

He claims it was an preemptive strike to defend the European nations.

Edit: Not European nations as in EU but the actual countries

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Aside from this, I think he knows he's going to get life in prison and he's just going to keep feeding the media bullshit because why not?

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Anyone else thinks it sad that it's the unrepentant mass murderer who's speaking more logic than the media?

I know. It's disconcerting, like finding out you share Hitler's taste in curtains or something...

Well, I guess there had to be at least one drop of common sense in that ocean of insanity and racism.

But once again, why should the fragile masses open up their minds to how unstable and abhorrent the human race they belong to is capable of being, when they can just use something they don't understand as a scapegoat? After all, facts and reason don't help Average Joe sleep at night, nor do they think of his children.

 

[SFMB]

When a total basketcase nazi supremist defends your favored pastime, you know your doing it right.

 

[Xifel]

Well, I guess there had to be at least one drop of common sense in that ocean of insanity and racism.

When a total basketcase nazi supremist defends your favored pastime, you know your doing it right.

He is not a nazi nor racist. He made it clear that he do not have anything against jewish people or people of other ethnic background. I actually think he wrote that he has no problem with homosexuals either. He sees Muslims as a threat, and the people of norway to be traitors for letting in muslim immigrants and refugees.

Damn, I looks like I'm defending him. I really really don't, I just wanted to point out that this guy is a new kind of extreme right nut, something we don't have a word for yet.

Just wanted to point out the complexity of the situation

 

[Jegsimmons]

he used COD to train?

ugh.....horseshit. video games dont help you train for shit, there's a difference between and xbox controller that vibrates a little to a god damn rifle that fire actual bullets.

no comparison, it anything he should be a worse shot, assuming he didn't train with the rifle first, and i doubt he did in Norway.

that and COD cant even name their fucking guns right or put them in the right category. they for damn sure cant train anyone with a fully equipped ar-15.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Well, I guess there had to be at least one drop of common sense in that ocean of insanity and racism.

When a total basketcase nazi supremist defends your favored pastime, you know your doing it right.

He is not a nazi nor racist. He made it clear that he do not have anything against jewish people or people of other ethnic background. I actually think he wrote that he has no problem with homosexuals either. He sees Muslims as a threat, and the people of norway to be traitors for letting in muslim immigrants and refugees.

Damn, I looks like I'm defending him. I really really don't, I just wanted to point out that this guy is a new kind of extreme right nut, something we don't have a word for yet.

Just wanted to point out the complexity of the situation

I never called him a Nazi, but he is insane and a racist. I'd say that anyone who thinks that all Muslim immigrants should die, along with anyone who collaborates with them, fits that description whatever half-baked justification they have for their actions.

 

[Xifel]

Well, I guess there had to be at least one drop of common sense in that ocean of insanity and racism.

When a total basketcase nazi supremist defends your favored pastime, you know your doing it right.

He is not a nazi nor racist. He made it clear that he do not have anything against jewish people or people of other ethnic background. I actually think he wrote that he has no problem with homosexuals either. He sees Muslims as a threat, and the people of norway to be traitors for letting in muslim immigrants and refugees.

Damn, I looks like I'm defending him. I really really don't, I just wanted to point out that this guy is a new kind of extreme right nut, something we don't have a word for yet.

Just wanted to point out the complexity of the situation

I never called him a Nazi, but he is insane and a racist. I'd say that anyone who thinks that all Muslim immigrants should die, along with anyone who collaborates with them, fits that description whatever half-baked justification they have for their actions.

No, you didn't call him a nazi, the other guy I quoted did, just put it in the text together. Although I can't agree with you, as I don't consider muslims to be a race. Islamophobe is what he is.

I don't think he is giving a justification for his action, I think he really believe in what he did, and that he has a severely messed up view of the world. And that makes him even more horrible.

Death penalty would be to lenient. Better he sits in an isolation cell for the rest of his life. If he was killed he would consider himself a hero or martyr in the end. In a cell maybe he will realize what his done, and the memories would be a much much more fitting punishment. Also consider that he will be all alone in prison, since they can't put him with other convicts, as he would be killed at once...

 

[Exterminas]

Wow. Great.

Either this guy is not insane, and we have a monstrous person saying "It is not a habit, it is a hobby. Also, would you like to know about my racial purficiation plans?"

Or this guy is insane and they are not going to take his words serious and chop gaming up to being dangerous.

I appreciate the effort of this guy to be straight about his crimes, instead of bubbling it up with dribble about the problems of his childhood. That kind of honesty is awefully rare amongst psychopaths.

... Is that a wierd thing to appreciate?

 

[Xifel]

Wow. Great.

Either this guy is not insane, and we have a monstrous person saying "It is not a habit, it is a hobby. Also, would you like to know about my racial purficiation plans?"

Or this guy is insane and they are not going to take his words serious and chop gaming up to being dangerous.

I appreciate the effort of this guy to be straight about his crimes, instead of bubbling it up with dribble about the problems of his childhood. That kind of honesty is awefully rare amongst psychopaths.

... Is that a wierd thing to appreciate?

No, it is not. This is one of the most significant events in a long time. This possibility to have an insight into the mind of a somewhat sane terrorist and extremist. This could help the world to understand the threat the right-wing, christian fundamentalists really pose.

Note: I, of course do, not find any connection between this guy and normal christians, it just that this is what he presented himself as.