Nostalgia Goggles

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Adam Locking

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Primal on the PS2 suffers most from nostalgia goggles for me. It was a great game when it came out, but it has aged really poorly. One of those that it's better to just live with the memories than replay
 

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D-Class 198482 said:
conkers bad fur day
conkers bad fur day
CONKERS BAD FUR DAAAAAAAAAAAY
i love that game so much
I got that game recently... It's making me chuckle a little bit that's for sure, but over all the game isn't really doing that much for me. I think without the humour the game would fall apart.
 

Calibanbutcher

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I think I am not allowed to call out "nostalgia" yet, seeing as I mostly played PS2 and PSP games.
BUt some of my favourites of all time:
Burnout Revenge (PS2)
Resident Evil 4 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 3 (Ps2)
Spiderman 2
Tiger and Dragon
Black
GTA San Andreas
Dragon Quest VIII
FFXII

gonna play some PS2 now...
 

Verzin

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Baldur's Gate.
Final Fantasy (all of them for the nes, snes, PS &gameboy advance)
Starcraft.

like...every mario game and 60% of all n64 games.
 

jisouserious

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Calibanbutcher said:
I think I am not allowed to call out "nostalgia" yet, seeing as I mostly played PS2 and PSP games.
BUt some of my favourites of all time:
Burnout Revenge (PS2)
Resident Evil 4 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 2 (Ps2)
Spiderman 2
Tiger and Dragon
Black
GTA San Andreas
Dragon Quest VIII
FFXII

gonna play some PS2 now...
Nostalgia isn't necessarily time based, it's more of an association with the memories you have of playing that game, and often it's a feeling which obscures an opinion which would otherwise be formed more fairly on a competing product. Like let's say, Banjo Kazooie versus mario 64, both similar concepts, but one definitely came out on top when the nostalgia is removed.
 

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bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Hmm, I'm positive there was another one of these threads less than a week ago. Oh well, I'll say the same thing I said in that one.

Fucking this.
This game alone showed how bad ass Boba Fett was, flying into arenas on his own. Man I am nostalgic about this, forcing people into the Sarlacc Pitt. This along with Jedi Power Battles - but that game only because I had a cheat disc that gave you the feeling of actually being a jedi. Without it that game was insanely difficult for me.

Still, I fear to tread down nostalgia road as I don't think I could handle the games now. Battlefront 2 is about as far back as I allow myself.
 

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Syndicate. The original. Had a big emotional investment in it.

Bought it off Good Old Games... and shut it down after a couple of minutes.

Nostalgia goggles indeed...
 

jisouserious

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Metalhandkerchief said:
So many games... So many...

But the answer I feel like giving today is:



Bad Mojo. The adventure game where you play as a roach. Still one of my favorite games. I had been gaming for about 3 years when this came out, in 1996. The nineties were great on the Mac. (This one has a Windows version too)



Jimmy T. Malice said:
Morrowind always seems to invoke nostalgia goggles, with many people saying it's the best Elder Scrolls game. But it really isn't. The combat is awful and button-mashy, the graphics are eye-searing (although that can be forgiven for a 2002 game), and even moving around is tedious thanks to the snail-like walk speed. The NPCs are even worse than Oblivion, with pretty much every one having exactly the same dialogue. And don't get me started on the vague quest directions.
You're wrong. Morrowind is the best TES game simply because it rates higher for the reasons that TES fans care about. Combat is not one of them. For example, Morrowind still has the best art direction of anything in the series, with only Shivering Isles, an Oblivion expansion to come close (because essentially, they tried making it the same look)

Morrowind had the most exploration content, the most hidden mysteries to stumble upon, the very very very best music of the entirety of gaming history except Age of Conan, and it had a vibrant conflict going on between ashlanders, their gods and the civilized people of Vvardenfell that no TES game has come close to. Oblivions' and Skyrim's plots were "hurr durr" in comparison.

Morrowind is simply the most complete Elder Scrolls experience. And you have to have played it at the time it came out to truly appreciate it, because at the time, it's graphics were the best in the business. That has nothing to do with nostalgia, that is the brain's reaction to inversion of technology, it simply can not fathom visual enjoyment from aged realism-based graphics when you have experienced better, newer products beforehand.

And the move speed is upgradeable. Level up athleticism. How? By running. That is another part that made Morrowind amazing. It was the first game to set aside mob kill XP in favor of a better system, that makes sense. Do stuff and get better at it by doing. Simple and clever, and much better than anything before it.
You can't judge an opinion on the grounds of wrong or right. What may be great to you, will not be great for some. I find it hard to get along with narrow minds; this person is fine to say he didn't like Morrowind just as you're fine to think the opposite. Always remember that at the end of the day, an opinion can never be fact.

In my opinion the entire elder scrolls series is over rated, and a little lack luster at best. To me, games should be well thought out in every single way, and there's something about Bethesda games that just don't feel thought through enough. Sure there's something to do, but there's never incentive to do it... which would be okay if it were minecraft, a game which pushes the players imagination, but the elder scrolls series need to paint a much better world and goals. Why is that hill there? Why must I climb it? Some may argue to Elder Scrolls manage to give the player these questions, but to me there is no clear enticement... only pretence.

As I said though, this is merely an opinion, as is anyone elses thoughts. In the grand scheme of things, it counts for very little.
 

jisouserious

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Metalhandkerchief said:
jisouserious said:
You can't judge an opinion on the grounds of wrong or right.
Except he wasn't stating an opinion. Look again:

Jimmy T. Malice said:
Morrowind always seems to invoke nostalgia goggles, with many people saying it's the best Elder Scrolls game. But it really isn't.
He makes the false assumption that the reason people like Morrowind is because of nostalgia goggles, which is why I said he was wrong, which he is. Morrowind is rated by TES fans simply because it scores better in categories TES fans find important than Oblivion, and to some, even Skyrim.
Then you both constructed opinions on the grounds of wrong and right. Still doesn't make my point any less valid.
 

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Donkey Kong 64, the Megaman Battle Network series (preferably 2 or 3). Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, Super Mario 64. Really, there's no end to what you can review.
 

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Metalhandkerchief said:
jisouserious said:
Then you both constructed opinions on the grounds of wrong and right. Still doesn't make my point any less valid.
You don't know the difference between an accusation and an opinion and you argue for the sake of it. Far as I'm concerned, this discussion is over.
You accused somebody of being wrong with an opinion and about an opinion. Comment to me how disgusted you are all you like; I can only wish you all the best in your apparent end to this conversation. I for one feel you address people poorly and advise you respect others in future. In the same vein though, I won't be offended either way, it's your life, and I don't care about what advice you heed. I just give it.
 

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The Lazy Blacksmith said:
Donkey Kong 64, the Megaman Battle Network series (preferably 2 or 3). Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, Super Mario 64. Really, there's no end to what you can review.
Super Mario 64 is the first episode in question so far. I've written a few drafts so far, and I'm going to try to avoid spoilers, though I will say it at the very least hasn't aged very well. The review focuses more on competing games on the market as a fair comparison of a good or bad game relevant to the time of release. This way it's not simply a look back in retrospect.
 

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If you are asking for reviews ideas, I whole heartily suggest that you review Star Fox Assault for the Gamecube, as I feel that it is the most underrated game from the previous generation, mostly due to people's own nostalgia over Star Fox 64 on the N64.
 

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jisouserious said:
The Lazy Blacksmith said:
Donkey Kong 64, the Megaman Battle Network series (preferably 2 or 3). Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, Super Mario 64. Really, there's no end to what you can review.
Super Mario 64 is the first episode in question so far. I've written a few drafts so far, and I'm going to try to avoid spoilers, though I will say it at the very least hasn't aged very well. The review focuses more on competing games on the market as a fair comparison of a good or bad game relevant to the time of release. This way it's not simply a look back in retrospect.
I'm surprised that you would say that. Games like DK 64 haven't aged well, but I would imagine that Mario 64 would withstand the test of time.

EDIT: I've noticed a lack of 2d platformers being mentioned. Maybe you could review Super Mario All-Stars for the SNES? It's a compilation of Mario's NES adventures, with a 16-bit graphical overhaul. Maybe you could do some kind of super-review-conglomeration-thing.