No because that's incredibly rude. It's not that hard to excuse yourself rather than just walking off. You don't have to event an excuse, telling them your just not interested is far better.
No, I'm not seeking validation. I was just curious if others did similar stuff as well. I couldn't care any less whether someone validates what I do or not. I don't do it to my friends for two reasons. 1. They are my friends and while I have wanted to before I don't because they are my friends. I don't do it to family either. 2. They don't usually waste my time with small talk or stuff I don't care about. When we do make small talk we make a little as humanely possible and move onto talk about more important stuff. I told them straight up about the stuff I don't care about and if they want to talk about that stuff they need to speak with someone else about it. Politics being one of the biggest things.Spider RedNight said:So you're... what, looking for validation? There's no excuse for being a dick because you didn't care.
I lack social tact too but I was taught when I was really young that you don't do stuff like that. I don't know how you managed to make friends with two people who don't really care that you do it because if I had a friend who chose to walk away instead of listen to me (no matter the importance), I'd feel incredibly offended.
(Despite the sexy icon) I try really hard to go by the "do unto others" rule; if I'm taking a giant risk by talking to someone I don't know and they walk away from me mid-conversation and it's not for something intense like needing to projectile vomit (not that I'd know), I'd feel crushed and my self-esteem would clip even further into the ground.
So no. If you aren't planning on causing actual, physical damage if you remain in a conversation with someone, I'd never do that. It's rude and demeaning and saying "well I TRY not to do it" is about as valid as someone saying "well I TRY not spit in your food" and then do it anyway.
I mean... damn.
You keep tossing around the phrase "I don't care", which makes it more curious that you even bothered making this thread at all; if you care so little then you shouldn't be curious about whether other people do disrespectful things like this.Bat Vader said:No, I'm not seeking validation. I was just curious if others did similar stuff as well. I couldn't care any less whether someone validates what I do or not. I don't do it to my friends for two reasons. 1. They are my friends and while I have wanted to before I don't because they are my friends. I don't do it to family either. 2. They don't usually waste my time with small talk or stuff I don't care about. When we do make small talk we make a little as humanely possible and move onto talk about more important stuff. I told them straight up about the stuff I don't care about and if they want to talk about that stuff they need to speak with someone else about it. Politics being one of the biggest things.Spider RedNight said:So you're... what, looking for validation? There's no excuse for being a dick because you didn't care.
I lack social tact too but I was taught when I was really young that you don't do stuff like that. I don't know how you managed to make friends with two people who don't really care that you do it because if I had a friend who chose to walk away instead of listen to me (no matter the importance), I'd feel incredibly offended.
(Despite the sexy icon) I try really hard to go by the "do unto others" rule; if I'm taking a giant risk by talking to someone I don't know and they walk away from me mid-conversation and it's not for something intense like needing to projectile vomit (not that I'd know), I'd feel crushed and my self-esteem would clip even further into the ground.
So no. If you aren't planning on causing actual, physical damage if you remain in a conversation with someone, I'd never do that. It's rude and demeaning and saying "well I TRY not to do it" is about as valid as someone saying "well I TRY not spit in your food" and then do it anyway.
I mean... damn.
....It is their fault. They're leaving the conversation of their own accord and letting the other person know that their time isn't wanted. It's not entitlement when someone's trying to be friendly and you just step on their feelings.Abomination said:Rude my ass. You're under no obligation to hold a conversation with anyone unless you attempted to engage in the first place.
What is rude is expecting to be entitled to someone else's attention and/or time and believe that someone ignoring you is THEIR fault.
If someone doesn't want to pay attention to you then YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THEIR ATTENTION.
The idea that you MUST acknowledge or engage in conversation with someone you do not want to is ludicrous.
You keep talking about your friends. You do realize that the way you make friends is by communicating with them right? And that at some point they were strangers, and you had to initiate a shared activity/conversation to become friends? That's kind of what socializing is, and going out to a public place, that is designed to let people mingle and socialize is sort of a recipe for being talked to by strangers. It kind of comes with the territory. Assuming you keep those same friends forever, (which I don't, because friends can change a lot over time), then I guess you can just brush off whoever you want. But you might lose those friends at some later date, and you would have to go find new ones, which would mean speaking to people you don't know. So maybe learning how to politely end a conversation would be a good skill for you to learn. It's not really a Herculian effort to end a conversation in a polite way, of course, it requires the person actually wanting to be polite about it, which you clearly don't.Bat Vader said:No, I'm not seeking validation. I was just curious if others did similar stuff as well. I couldn't care any less whether someone validates what I do or not. I don't do it to my friends for two reasons. 1. They are my friends and while I have wanted to before I don't because they are my friends. I don't do it to family either. 2. They don't usually waste my time with small talk or stuff I don't care about. When we do make small talk we make a little as humanely possible and move onto talk about more important stuff. I told them straight up about the stuff I don't care about and if they want to talk about that stuff they need to speak with someone else about it. Politics being one of the biggest things.Spider RedNight said:So you're... what, looking for validation? There's no excuse for being a dick because you didn't care.
I lack social tact too but I was taught when I was really young that you don't do stuff like that. I don't know how you managed to make friends with two people who don't really care that you do it because if I had a friend who chose to walk away instead of listen to me (no matter the importance), I'd feel incredibly offended.
(Despite the sexy icon) I try really hard to go by the "do unto others" rule; if I'm taking a giant risk by talking to someone I don't know and they walk away from me mid-conversation and it's not for something intense like needing to projectile vomit (not that I'd know), I'd feel crushed and my self-esteem would clip even further into the ground.
So no. If you aren't planning on causing actual, physical damage if you remain in a conversation with someone, I'd never do that. It's rude and demeaning and saying "well I TRY not to do it" is about as valid as someone saying "well I TRY not spit in your food" and then do it anyway.
I mean... damn.
I'm curious if other people do it. Nothing more than curiosity. I don't care if people think I am rude for doing it.Spider RedNight said:You keep tossing around the phrase "I don't care", which makes it more curious that you even bothered making this thread at all; if you care so little then you shouldn't be curious about whether other people do disrespectful things like this.Bat Vader said:No, I'm not seeking validation. I was just curious if others did similar stuff as well. I couldn't care any less whether someone validates what I do or not. I don't do it to my friends for two reasons. 1. They are my friends and while I have wanted to before I don't because they are my friends. I don't do it to family either. 2. They don't usually waste my time with small talk or stuff I don't care about. When we do make small talk we make a little as humanely possible and move onto talk about more important stuff. I told them straight up about the stuff I don't care about and if they want to talk about that stuff they need to speak with someone else about it. Politics being one of the biggest things.Spider RedNight said:So you're... what, looking for validation? There's no excuse for being a dick because you didn't care.
I lack social tact too but I was taught when I was really young that you don't do stuff like that. I don't know how you managed to make friends with two people who don't really care that you do it because if I had a friend who chose to walk away instead of listen to me (no matter the importance), I'd feel incredibly offended.
(Despite the sexy icon) I try really hard to go by the "do unto others" rule; if I'm taking a giant risk by talking to someone I don't know and they walk away from me mid-conversation and it's not for something intense like needing to projectile vomit (not that I'd know), I'd feel crushed and my self-esteem would clip even further into the ground.
So no. If you aren't planning on causing actual, physical damage if you remain in a conversation with someone, I'd never do that. It's rude and demeaning and saying "well I TRY not to do it" is about as valid as someone saying "well I TRY not spit in your food" and then do it anyway.
I mean... damn.
....It is their fault. They're leaving the conversation of their own accord and letting the other person know that their time isn't wanted. It's not entitlement when someone's trying to be friendly and you just step on their feelings.Abomination said:Rude my ass. You're under no obligation to hold a conversation with anyone unless you attempted to engage in the first place.
What is rude is expecting to be entitled to someone else's attention and/or time and believe that someone ignoring you is THEIR fault.
If someone doesn't want to pay attention to you then YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THEIR ATTENTION.
The idea that you MUST acknowledge or engage in conversation with someone you do not want to is ludicrous.
So yes, there's a difference between someone feeling entitled and trying to be friendly and you just walk away from them without something like "I'm bored now". Two wrongs don't make a right and all that jazz.
Also y'know. Never know if you just randomly walk away from that ONE person who was just hoping someone would listen and they pull out a gun and shoot you in the back. So... there's that. Not that I'd know.
ADDENDUM: It's perfectly okay to do this when someone is flirting with you and making you extremely uncomfortable. And I only say that because I've done it but this is after they won't take a hint and keep talking and it makes me want to have a nosebleed.
I am perfectly willing to communicate with someone as long they don't make small talk. A very small amount is tolerable but when I try and steer the conversation into something more conversation worthy and the person continues to make small talk I write that person off.Happyninja42 said:You keep talking about your friends. You do realize that the way you make friends is by communicating with them right? And that at some point they were strangers, and you had to initiate a shared activity/conversation to become friends? That's kind of what socializing is, and going out to a public place, that is designed to let people mingle and socialize is sort of a recipe for being talked to by strangers. It kind of comes with the territory. Assuming you keep those same friends forever, (which I don't, because friends can change a lot over time), then I guess you can just brush off whoever you want. But you might lose those friends at some later date, and you would have to go find new ones, which would mean speaking to people you don't know. So maybe learning how to politely end a conversation would be a good skill for you to learn. It's not really a Herculian effort to end a conversation in a polite way, of course, it requires the person actually wanting to be polite about it, which you clearly don't.Bat Vader said:No, I'm not seeking validation. I was just curious if others did similar stuff as well. I couldn't care any less whether someone validates what I do or not. I don't do it to my friends for two reasons. 1. They are my friends and while I have wanted to before I don't because they are my friends. I don't do it to family either. 2. They don't usually waste my time with small talk or stuff I don't care about. When we do make small talk we make a little as humanely possible and move onto talk about more important stuff. I told them straight up about the stuff I don't care about and if they want to talk about that stuff they need to speak with someone else about it. Politics being one of the biggest things.Spider RedNight said:So you're... what, looking for validation? There's no excuse for being a dick because you didn't care.
I lack social tact too but I was taught when I was really young that you don't do stuff like that. I don't know how you managed to make friends with two people who don't really care that you do it because if I had a friend who chose to walk away instead of listen to me (no matter the importance), I'd feel incredibly offended.
(Despite the sexy icon) I try really hard to go by the "do unto others" rule; if I'm taking a giant risk by talking to someone I don't know and they walk away from me mid-conversation and it's not for something intense like needing to projectile vomit (not that I'd know), I'd feel crushed and my self-esteem would clip even further into the ground.
So no. If you aren't planning on causing actual, physical damage if you remain in a conversation with someone, I'd never do that. It's rude and demeaning and saying "well I TRY not to do it" is about as valid as someone saying "well I TRY not spit in your food" and then do it anyway.
I mean... damn.
But hey, you say you don't care at all, so feel free to ignore what I've said if you want.
It's classic introvert behavior actually.Burned Hand said:It's not autistic. People with autism don't have trouble caring about rudeness, they just have trouble reading the social map. The OP is saying clearly that he's not confused or having trouble understanding the situation, he just doesn't care.visiblenoise said:That transcends rude, that's borderline autistic behavior. Even solicitors generally get told "no," often even a "no thanks." If you're going to be rude, don't be a wuss about it.
That's not autistic, that's antisocial.
I am an extreme introvert. Being in any kind of conversation just drains me extremely quickly.Nimzabaat said:It's classic introvert behavior actually.Burned Hand said:It's not autistic. People with autism don't have trouble caring about rudeness, they just have trouble reading the social map. The OP is saying clearly that he's not confused or having trouble understanding the situation, he just doesn't care.visiblenoise said:That transcends rude, that's borderline autistic behavior. Even solicitors generally get told "no," often even a "no thanks." If you're going to be rude, don't be a wuss about it.
That's not autistic, that's antisocial.
http://m.atchuup.com/how-to-understand-introverted-people/
Finding dealing with people exhausting is an introvert thing, being an ass-hole about it is not.Nimzabaat said:It's classic introvert behavior actually.Burned Hand said:It's not autistic. People with autism don't have trouble caring about rudeness, they just have trouble reading the social map. The OP is saying clearly that he's not confused or having trouble understanding the situation, he just doesn't care.visiblenoise said:That transcends rude, that's borderline autistic behavior. Even solicitors generally get told "no," often even a "no thanks." If you're going to be rude, don't be a wuss about it.
That's not autistic, that's antisocial.
http://m.atchuup.com/how-to-understand-introverted-people/
I get that. What my advice would be is to talk to your friend who recognizes when you're being rude and enlist their help in figuring out an exit strategy. Even something along the lines of "i'm really sorry but i'm not feeling well" could give you an out that wouldn't come off as rude.Bat Vader said:I am an extreme introvert. Being in any kind of conversation just drains me extremely quickly.Nimzabaat said:It's classic introvert behavior actually.Burned Hand said:It's not autistic. People with autism don't have trouble caring about rudeness, they just have trouble reading the social map. The OP is saying clearly that he's not confused or having trouble understanding the situation, he just doesn't care.visiblenoise said:That transcends rude, that's borderline autistic behavior. Even solicitors generally get told "no," often even a "no thanks." If you're going to be rude, don't be a wuss about it.
That's not autistic, that's antisocial.
http://m.atchuup.com/how-to-understand-introverted-people/
I live in Northern Michigan so I could be considered a cousin of Canada.Nimzabaat said:I get that. What my advice would be is to talk to your friend who recognizes when you're being rude and enlist their help in figuring out an exit strategy. Even something along the lines of "i'm really sorry but i'm not feeling well" could give you an out that wouldn't come off as rude.Bat Vader said:I am an extreme introvert. Being in any kind of conversation just drains me extremely quickly.Nimzabaat said:It's classic introvert behavior actually.Burned Hand said:It's not autistic. People with autism don't have trouble caring about rudeness, they just have trouble reading the social map. The OP is saying clearly that he's not confused or having trouble understanding the situation, he just doesn't care.visiblenoise said:That transcends rude, that's borderline autistic behavior. Even solicitors generally get told "no," often even a "no thanks." If you're going to be rude, don't be a wuss about it.
That's not autistic, that's antisocial.
http://m.atchuup.com/how-to-understand-introverted-people/
EDIT: If you're not from Canada you can drop the "i'm really sorry".
Would I be pissed off if it happened to me? Not really. It has happened to me before and the only thing I was pissed about was that the conversation didn't end sooner.Grouchy Imp said:Really?
Wow.
Well ... look ... I get not being interested in what some people say, but that's no reason to drop your manners and just walk off on someone. If someone is trying to engage you in a discussion or manner you don't fancy, let them know - politely. Otherwise you are - I'm afraid - just being rude. Social Interaction 101 - Would you be pissed off if someone behaved in a certain way towards you or a friend of yours? Don't behave in that way to them or a friend of theirs.
Funny thing about that. It's happened to me before. Back in 11th grade there was a class clown in my math class that always seemed to annoy me because I either wouldn't laugh at his antics or just ignore him outright. One day he came over to annoy me and I completely lost it because a few seconds later he found himself picking his ass up off the floor. I was suspended for a few days but it was worth it. The little shit never bothered me again after that.Sanderpower said:To be perfectly honest, if somebody just rudely walked away from me mid conversation AND I see them on a semi-regular basis, then I would make it one of my goals in life to constantly annoy them. You're a co-worker or fellow student or whatever? Well i'm going to be chatting you up constantly. No matter how many times you tell me get lost, i'll be happily talking to you about all the most pointless things imaginable.
Sounds to me like you're a guy who is just inconsiderate of other people's feelings. In that case, that's a personal flaw that YOU have. It's not the fault of the people who you rudely walk away from. Social empathy is an important attribute to possess.