I tried to play the original StarCraft single player campaign a year or so ago.
Maybe if I'd have had the foresight to dig out an old CRT monitor beforehand, it wouldn't have been so bad.
If I'd had the wherewithal to mod the game into a higher resolution it might not have been so bad either.
What I was left with instead was a futuristic war as pictured by some pixel Picasso during his cubist/sci fi phase.
Picture in your minds eye, if you will, a 640 by 480 game stretched out onto a modern monitor.
It was as if the whole battle had been reskinned as a mosaic.
I tried playing it in a window, but my nose was almost touching the screen trying to make out what was going on.
That's just the graphical side of a game that I can still remember being genuinely impressed with on release.
Exposure to the foibles of old style RTS games was probably minimized as StarCraft was a well designed title.
Even so, it still felt a little creaky by comparison to more recent titles.
Since then I've vowed to leave the past shielded securely behind the rose tinted nostalgia hardened safety glass barrier.
There is a mod for Starcraft 2 that puts the single player campaign from sc1 and brood war INTO starcraft 2 its called "mass recall" I would recommend checking it out.
Earlier this year I decided to try Half-Life 2 again, even though I hated it the first time I'd played it, finding it overly difficult and dull. I don't know what past me was thinking. That game is great and I was stupid.
Been a bit broke lately (Side venting: "oh did we write down 25 hours for you this week? we actually meant 16 lel, but we wont tell you this till you have wasted the gas showing up." FUCK RETAIL) I have been digging back into my older games, and I have actuly been disappointed a few times.
Final Fantasy IX: Still great, but dear god does it drag at the beginning. What is it with JRPGs and the game refusing to start for three hours?
Megaman X Command Mission: I remembered loving every element of this as a kid, but I'm starting to suspect that was just because I had yet to be exposed to better games. The combat is the most simplistic, stripped down execution of early FF style turn based combat I can think of, and the voice acting, while not going on any worst ever lists, is quite poor.
Time Splitters: How the fuck did kid me actually manage to control GoldenEye style FPS-es? Post spoiled by Halo 3 me just cant manage.
Soul Nomad: I honest to god do not remember this being a hard game, but suddenly I'm getting my ass kicked only a few levels in. Time will tell if a reversed difficulty curve threw off my memory, or if something just clicked last time that I'm missing now.
Metroid in general (Bar 1 & 2): On the opposite end of the spectrum I do not remember breezing through these games without any appreciable resistance, but here I am clearing Fusion in about and hour thirty without dying and crushing every boss in prime without effort.
There is a mod for Starcraft 2 that puts the single player campaign from sc1 and brood war INTO starcraft 2 its called "mass recall" I would recommend checking it out.
The Simpsons games for NES. Bart vs the world and... Bart vs Aliens or something.
How did I actually play these games to completition as a kid? And loved the aliens one?
Well, obviously because they and Super mario 1&3 where the only games I had...
I used an emulator to try and play the original Ninja Turtles arcade beat 'em up. Back in the day, the game looked awesome, but now, the game's appearance is almost a deal-breaker for me, and as a really old beat 'em up, it really doesn't have anything to offer gameplay-wise that other beat 'em ups can't do better.
I haven't had this problem with video games, but I did recently experience this with books.
I grew up reading the Pern novels by Anne McCaffery. I loved them from the first moment I picked one of them up.
And even as a kid, I realized one thing that was unique in them was a consistent cast of strong female protagonists and support characters. This was something even at 8 years old, annoyed me about a lot of entertainment, how 2 dimensional female characters were. But not the Pern novels! Man I loved them, and the whole world, and the society she set up for it's progressive nature!
....and then I read them again as an adult and realized "Holy shit...she's actually writing some of the most cliche female characters I've ever seen. Having to have a man to support her, being sexually prudish, having the classic male/female societal roles being reinforced by the society, all kinds of stuff. Which is even more disturbing if you consider the origin of the series
That they are colonists from earth, who left earth to try and start a new world. They are presented in the book Dragonfall, as a very democratic, equal opportunity group of people, from all walks of life. Women and men shared societal roles at equal levels of importance, and this was considered normal. And then they somehow devolved back into a patriarchal society, where women are the property of their fathers, until they are sold off to be wed, and then property of the husband. They have no say in their place in society, and if they tried to push out of their roles, they were shunned and sometimes exiled by their culture. Hell one character was left to be maimed by her mother, because she was talented at music, and wanted to be a Harper, and that is a traditionally male job. Because FOR SHAME, you thinking you could be a Harper?! The scandal!!
Not to mention the role of "drudges" in their society, which were always described as stupid people who were good for nothing more than menial tasks to support their feudal system of Lord Holders and Dragonriders.
It was actually kind of disturbing, to see these books through eyes with 30+ years more of life. I was tempted to start checking out her other books again, the Rowan series, the Crystal Singer, etc, but I'm afraid they will end up being cut from the same cloth as the Pern novels.
Recently replayed Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. They are just as amazing today as they were back when I was a teenager. I have replayed Secret of Mana... not so much for it. It's still good, but not as great as I remember.
I haven't had this problem with video games, but I did recently experience this with books.
I grew up reading the Pern novels by Anne McCaffery. I loved them from the first moment I picked one of them up.
And even as a kid, I realized one thing that was unique in them was a consistent cast of strong female protagonists and support characters. This was something even at 8 years old, annoyed me about a lot of entertainment, how 2 dimensional female characters were. But not the Pern novels! Man I loved them, and the whole world, and the society she set up for it's progressive nature!
....and then I read them again as an adult and realized "Holy shit...she's actually writing some of the most cliche female characters I've ever seen. Having to have a man to support her, being sexually prudish, having the classic male/female societal roles being reinforced by the society, all kinds of stuff. Which is even more disturbing if you consider the origin of the series
That they are colonists from earth, who left earth to try and start a new world. They are presented in the book Dragonfall, as a very democratic, equal opportunity group of people, from all walks of life. Women and men shared societal roles at equal levels of importance, and this was considered normal. And then they somehow devolved back into a patriarchal society, where women are the property of their fathers, until they are sold off to be wed, and then property of the husband. They have no say in their place in society, and if they tried to push out of their roles, they were shunned and sometimes exiled by their culture. Hell one character was left to be maimed by her mother, because she was talented at music, and wanted to be a Harper, and that is a traditionally male job. Because FOR SHAME, you thinking you could be a Harper?! The scandal!!
Not to mention the role of "drudges" in their society, which were always described as stupid people who were good for nothing more than menial tasks to support their feudal system of Lord Holders and Dragonriders.
It was actually kind of disturbing, to see these books through eyes with 30+ years more of life. I was tempted to start checking out her other books again, the Rowan series, the Crystal Singer, etc, but I'm afraid they will end up being cut from the same cloth as the Pern novels.
I had this exact same problem recently. My Dad used to read me all his old sci fi and fantasy stuff when I was a kid, and I remember really being into The Dragonriders of Pern, but man they just don't hold up once you've grown up into a progressive adult.
I had this exact same problem recently. My Dad used to read me all his old sci fi and fantasy stuff when I was a kid, and I remember really being into The Dragonriders of Pern, but man they just don't hold up once you've grown up into a progressive adult.
I know! The stuff with the dragons and their riders, and fighting thread, and all that discovery/exploration stuff of their world, that stuff still holds up just fine. But the social structure stuff was just, unsettling to see again. xD
capcha: change yourself. Well I did change, that's why it bothers me!
A lot of the classics I really love like Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil and Silent Hill(all of the original PS1 titles) just look evern worse than I remembered it. They play even worse too. Resident Evil with its awkward and stiff controls and backgrounds that look like washed-out .gif images, MGS with its fixed camera angles that forces you to play the game only by looking at the solition radar(not that the diarrhea of low-res polygons are that much of an improvement) and Silent Hill's textures that are so poor that playing the game for any significant amount of time results in seeing nothing but orange to brown triangles rotate.
But yeah, some things are better left the way you remembered them instead of revisiting them. However, I also recently played Super Metroid and A Link to the Past again and those games are still as good as they were like 23 years ago. Even without nostalgia.
Recently replayed Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. They are just as amazing today as they were back when I was a teenager. I have replayed Secret of Mana... not so much for it. It's still good, but not as great as I remember.
Chrono Trigger - Still awesome. It feels and looks just like I remember it (maybe a few pixels off).
Secret of Mana 1/2 - Even better than I remembered them (though 2 is still annoying as hell about the whole second specialisation)
Chrono Cross - Goddamn it's a chore. I've hated the random encounter system ever since FF3, and looking back I must have been patient like a rock to actually play through this massively long game.
babinro said:
Knights of the old republic 1 & 2
I still enjoy the story, characters, and combat systems of these games but actually playing them again is a chore. You really feel how large these zones are and how many hours of playtime are spent just running across large maps without all that much happening.
I have the urge to replay these games again but I just know that the experience will quickly turn to boredom/tedium due to the pacing.
My older brother actually still has the NES we used to play as kids, and now his kids (my nephews) are playing it.
A few weeks ago I was babysitting my nephews and playing some classic NES when they asked me to play DuckTales for them. I remember being pretty good at the game as a kid. I knew all the secrets to all the levels, even knew how to get to the secret ending where you have to race Glomgold by climbing a rope while he's being air-lifted by Magica. Never really had any trouble with the game and it was actually one of my favorites as a child.
Fast-forward twenty some-odd years and holy shit that game is impossible. o.o
Seriously, I don't know what happened, but trying to play that game now I get absolutely destroyed.
I don't know how I was so patient as a kid. Hell.. every time I try and return to a favourite game as a kid I find myself getting bored quickly.
The biggest one recently was Unholy War for the PS1. I used to play against the computer loads in that... now it's just spamming one of 3 attacks with little strategy until win.
One of my favourite games as a kid was Star Wars Episode I: Jedi Power Battles. I found it for cheap at a retro game shop a couple years back, and holy shit is that game terrible.
Fallout 1 & 2, I remember them fondly from playing them back in the 90's, went back this summer to replay them before the release of Fallout 4, forgot that those games easily give the worst of Bethesda releases a run for their money bugs/glitches wise.
Even after patching everything up, the games still suffer from a real lack of polish on the technical end, especially the frikken car in Fallout 2, that thing is apparently hardcoded to completely break my game at least once per playthrough. The story and choices are great, but the skills and SPECIAL system isn't nearly as engaging as I remember from my first time through.
Combat in those games has definitely shown its age as well, I'm actually a fan of CRPG games, and quite enjoyed the recent combat systems used in games like Shadowrun: Dragonfall and Divinity: OS, but even the combat systems I thought could use some improvement like Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity still feel light years ahead of the clunky slow mess that is combat in Fallout 1; 2 is an improvement, but still pales in comparison to many modern games in the genre.
I still have a fond nostalgic spot for the games, but its hard going back to them after all this time. Even the story and choices just don't seem as impactful as I remember them being from all those years ago.
Also, pretty much any early PS1 era games, I remember the graphics seemed amazing at the time, gawking at the FMVs in FF7 or the atmosphere of Metal Gear Solid, but sprite based games like Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger have held up infinitely better than any of those games graphically. I just can't play those PS1 era games as easily anymore, the boxy pasted on textures just bug the hell out of me now.
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