Not-So-Micro Transactions

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sXeth

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While doing my research on For Honor (still haven't figured out just how game altering those premium gear packs are but probably combined with everything else, enough to make it a solid pass for me), I happened across the interesting figure of what a single cosmetic outfit cost. Which was 34 Euros. About 43-45 of our Canadian dollars, so probably closing on 35-40 US.

For a single skin.

Now, I'm not unfamiliar with this sort of thing, I play Paragon (which is free-to-play, so a grain of salt), but remember the similar sense of WTF when they had a Bundle Sale in December for all available skins, and at a sizable discount, it was still 100 some odd dollars. Smite which I've also played was pseudo free-to-play (You had to pay 40, or about half a full AAA price to unlock all heroes), has single skins up in the 15-20 dollar ranges.

Others I'm familiar include Evolve, which for all the bad press it got, had drastically cheaper cosmetics. MY memories pretty vague as I only maybe opened the store once but I think they were in sort of an old standard of 5 bucks or so. The other end of course is Overwatch's gambling machine, where getting a skin you want is somewhere between 5 and 500 hundred dollars based on RNG.


Most of these also mask their prices by using ingame currencies, which serve to mask how much actual money is being spent. 5 bucks will buy you 5000 of some ingame currency, which is operating on seeing the increase in numbers as a deal. And when you see the thing you'd like, you'e forgotten that 25,000 is half the cost of a game.

As I mentioned, skins used to hover around 2-5 bucks. When the hell did the huge jump happen? Especially on full price games, and how is it not a controversy in itself, despite the "its only cosmetics" line. The free-to-play stuff is maybe more understandable, but still ludicrous when two "micro" transactions are enough to buy a full game (or two, if you squeeze an indie in).
 

Bob_McMillan

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That sounds fucking ridiculous, but when games out there actually charge more than 100 bucks for any kind of microtransaction, I suppose people don't care anymore.
 

The Madman

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Publishers would likely say that they're merely providing the service at a price players have proven they're willing to pay, and as contemptible as it might be they're not necessarily wrong. Enough people are buying these things at those sorts of ridiculous prices that there's no reason beyond charity to lower them.
 

baddude1337

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Yeah, micro's have been going to insane prices for quite a while. It always astounds me when I'm browsing the Apple app store and see the crazy high price bundles (?60+) are in the top 10 most purchased IAP's.

Still, ?40 for a single skin in an already AAA game really just rubs me the wrong way. The idea of full prices games having IAP's in general I find distasteful, but to have single vanity items cost almost as much as the whole game just seems plain wrong.
 

Michel Henzel

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Well I wouldn't call anything a microtransaction if it's more than a dollar or two. Five at the absolute max. Beyond that, it's no longer a microtransaction.
 

Maximum Bert

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They are just going to keep pushing it to see how far they can go. Personally I am against any sort of micro transaction simply because while I feel it can be done right its a very slippery slope that business is all to happy to push you down.

I will put up with purely cosmetic stuff if the game has a fair amount already and its not all front loaded i.e they are adding stuff months and years after the game release but boosts and game altering stuff is pure bs and does a great job in discrediting the game imo.
 

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I dunno man, I feel like they could still up the price. When I buy a skin, I do it so everyone can see my big, swinging wad of cash. "Ha HA! Look at me, I have money." Which of course means that I have value as a person.

Really what they should do is have multiple tiers of over-priced skins, so we can tell the casuals from the real players.

But seriously, yeah it is kinda insane. The only justification I can think is the fact that games are still 60$ after all these years. Something had to give at some point. Games are really expensive to make, it's not getting any cheaper, and you can't depend on selling enough copies to make your money back. So all them whales pay so we can have fancier games.

(hey, actually 500 dollar skins!)
http://www.pcgamer.com/mechwarrior-online-announces-clan-collection-with-500-gold-mechs-ui-2-0-still-coming/
 

Prime_Hunter_H01

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Schtimpy said:
The only justification I can think is the fact that games are still 60$ after all these years. Something had to give at some point. Games are really expensive to make, it's not getting any cheaper, and you can't depend on selling enough copies to make your money back.
Has anyone else typed the price of games in to an inflation calculator, it may not feel like it but games are getting cheaper than ever.

About 2005 and the Xbox 360 is where I remember games went from 50 to 60 as a standard, that 60 today is rounding up, 75 dollars.

I am fine with needing to make up the money somewhere as with the internet age a price hike like we last saw would be met with a decent backlash, though there definitely needs to be better ways to go about it.
 

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People are willing to put up with it so why shouldn't the company charge that much? I don't like it, but since people are retarded and burn their money on that, companies will gladly give them "options".

Just 2 or 3 days ago Blizzard announced something that will basically increase the cost of keeping up with hearthstone release by over 30%. If you want most cards, a whole $200 more per year, from ~$400 to ~$600 a year. The change with the information we have no makes it literally impossible to keep up as a free player even if you grind the game for over 5 hours a day to get the maximum gold you can on a daily basis. Even as a paying customer you will have a much harder time keeping up. What is the community doing? Praising Ben fucking Brode for it because we need MOAR!!!! cards. What? Quality cards? Nah, just more cards. The quality obviously won't change at all and 70% of all cards will be filler trash. Anyone complaining? A filthy subhuman f2p player with false sense of entitlement.

So the better question is really why wouldn't companies start turning those micro transactions into macro transactions?
 

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BiH-Kira said:
People are willing to put up with it so why shouldn't the company charge that much? I don't like it, but since people are retarded and burn their money on that, companies will gladly give them "options".

Just 2 or 3 days ago Blizzard announced something that will basically increase the cost of keeping up with hearthstone release by over 30%. If you want most cards, a whole $200 more per year, from ~$400 to ~$600 a year. The change with the information we have no makes it literally impossible to keep up as a free player even if you grind the game for over 5 hours a day to get the maximum gold you can on a daily basis. Even as a paying customer you will have a much harder time keeping up. What is the community doing? Praising Ben fucking Brode for it because we need MOAR!!!! cards. What? Quality cards? Nah, just more cards. The quality obviously won't change at all and 70% of all cards will be filler trash. Anyone complaining? A filthy subhuman f2p player with false sense of entitlement.

So the better question is really why wouldn't companies start turning those micro transactions into macro transactions?
Because pretty soon they will be carving up whole games to sell in pieces? Continually complaining about it is the only way to try and mitigate this disaster. That and not buying the nonsense. The more people that do it, the worse it gets for all of us.
 

Tanis

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If the whales are willing to pay for it, then the devs are willing to charge it.

I, personally, think it's fucked up...so I don't buy it.

BUT...if it's something that can actually change the balance of a game, then I just stop playing the game.
Fuck those pay-to-win games.