@Notch and the 'F-bomb'

[ramboondiea]

anyone actually see his twitter (notchs) where he slags the yogcast of for several posts...now did anyone else notice his liberal use of swears? because if he is getting all up in arms about swearing in front of kids maybe, just maybe he should think about what he posts on one of the most popular social networking sites....just my thoughts on the matter

 

[Terrara]

Well then... be offended.

But seriously, I went on internet at a very early age and I don't have any problems with people playing idiots on the web or trying to troll. I am a 'chick' and I do not get offended when someone chats about 'banging chicks' (god knows 'chicks' can talk about a lot of stupid crap, we are just not as open about it as you guys). I don't know about gay/lesbian community though.

And to be honest, do you really think that kids that got their hands on minecraft (internet download only on some obscure site that is advertised BY the youtube trends) AND then went on to LAS VEGAS for minecon are not exposed to swearing already? They can probably cuss better then notch himself. Stop trying to pretend that you want to protect children by wrapping them in wool at this point. It is bloody Las Vegas, people don't go their to eat ice cream after a Sunday mass with the whole family.

 

[Steve the Pocket]

I don't see a problem with his reaction. Minecraft is a pretty kid friendly game, I think that part of its designs was on purpose. Makes sense Notch would want to keep his convention kid friendly too.

Yes people usually hold child friendly conventions at Sin City. Scumbag Notch.

Mmm, yes. I lived in Las Vegas for a couple years, and aside from the strip (a very small part of the city) Las Vegas is mostly inhabited by normal people with normal jobs who occasionally have *gasp of shock!* children.

Believe it or not.

But but but it's LAS VEGAS! Gambling and prostitution are legal there and stuff so obviously it must be a wretched hive of scum and villainy, right? I saw The Hangover and CSI so obviously I know more about it than you! I mean, if we can't justify our arrogant opinions using our thinly-veiled cultural prejudices, then what can we use? *childish pout*

You using "that's gay" to describe things that are merely pathetic rather than of a same-sex screwing thing... that is homophobic.

Why has the black culture transformed the n-word into something that does not carry the old pejorative meaning but we can't take the homophobic out of "gay"?

I don't get mankind at all.

Except white people don't go around calling each other "******" for doing something they think is pathetic. And by the way, if they did, they'd get a hell of a lot more flak than they do right now for using "gay" that way.

My feelings about censorship, like my feelings about the concept of "community," people who say "n-word" instead of "******," and now apparently my feelings about Notch, can be summed up in three words: Fuck. That. Shit.

Wait... "the concept of 'community'"? Now I'm curious what you mean by that. Judging by your attitude, I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean what it sounded like to me.

 

[latiasracer]

This may seem way off the topic...

What is Yogcast?

. They are 2 British gamers who got famous for their Minecraft series, but started out doing Wow tutorials. They are genuinely pretty funny...( More so that most main-Stream comidians today) Personally I find it hard to believe that they would write "Fuck off" on somebody's autograph... but Hey.

 

[Treblaine]

Queer, on the other hand has always been pejorative, though arguably the gay community changed that with chants like "we're here, we're queer. Get used to it!"

I thought it was:

"we're here, we're queer, and we don't want any more bears!"

And I agree, if there is going to be any man-lovin' I don't want to see an inch of bodyhair!

Some more info: http://i.imgur.com/v4TrW.png

Not sure how true it is, almost certainly exaggerated to some degree. Might want to edit it into the OP.

err, i think the OP may be bullshitting us. He may be confusing "insulted people" with "general cussing"

Because they are NOT THE SAME.

You can swear without insulting, you can insult without swearing. For example, if I said you were a "liar and charlatan with tiny genitalia", that would be insulting but not a single swear word used. or you can say "Holy shit, you are a bad ************ defeating that boss in 5 minutes".

 

[The Lugz]

Considering the Yogscast said "The F-Bomb" (Oh no?) and yet Notch jokes about having sex with Simon's mother and masturbation in Yogscast's "Notch Minecon" interview. I think the pot is calling the kettle black here.

notch and simon and lewis are the quintessential man-child, yogscast are totally unprepared and incapable of dealing with the audience they have and act like the vulgar people on the internet around them

none of this is news to anyone who's been on youtube, the pretentious petty squabbling, is probably due to notch being over sensitive about his creation and how yogscast wanted paying for the trip over to him.

neither yogscast or notch truly earned their fame, and they do all act like spoiled divas
it's a definite case of the pot calling the kettle black and
the current twitter rubbish is just an exercise in being childish and hypocritical

 

[Radeonx]

You using "that's gay" to describe things that are merely pathetic rather than of a same-sex screwing thing... that is homophobic.

Why has the black culture transformed the n-word into something that does not carry the old pejorative meaning but we can't take the homophobic out of "gay"?

I don't get mankind at all.






Anyway, Notch probably reacted this way to save face and not be associated with people who swear in front of children.

Probably because most gay people don't go around saying "that's gay", where as 90% of the current population that says ******/nigga is black.
The use of these terms by black people started with the gangster rap movement (At least, that's when it blew up), because a lot of rappers felt the need to show that nobody can really get to them, even if they do call them niggers. At least, that's what one of the members of the NWA described it as, and they are the NWA.

And honestly, I don't see gay people starting a gangster movement to bring back the word gay to show that you can't fuck with them.
Especially since gay is the common term for homosexuals, where ****** is NOT the common term for black people.

 

[Caliostro]

Seriously? THAT is what that drama shit was about? By the way he talked I thought someone had, completely unprovoked and out of the blue, called someone a fag... But seriously, all of that because someone said "fuck"?


It's a word. Fuck off and grow up Notch.

 

[Radelaide]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

 

[The Funslinger]

Queer, on the other hand has always been pejorative, though arguably the gay community changed that with chants like "we're here, we're queer. Get used to it!"

I thought it was:

"we're here, we're queer, and we don't want any more bears!"

And I agree, if there is going to be any man-lovin' I don't want to see an inch of bodyhair!

I may not be gay, but being a... shall we say, rugged northern lad, I take offense to that remark!

 

[flaming_squirrel]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

That sounds like complete and utter rubbish, they've been to quite a few big events and have never had any problems. Fail to see why they'd cause a scene at Notch's party without him doing something dickish to antagonise the situation. Also his response lacks any professionalism whatsoever, at this rate it'll just turn into a slagging off match between the two parties.

Oh and on Notch paying them to attend, if he wasnt that set on them being there, he wouldnt have paid in the first place.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

Yeah I was just gonna bring these into it, it's not the F-Bomb, which is one thing, it's acting like entitled pricks.

That's my issue here, swearing's all well and good but it's being wankers to everyone around them that really grinds my gears.

 

[Cenequus]

<quote=Direct from Notch's Twitter>Yogscast repeatedly insulted people, talked behind their backs, refused to cooperate, and acted like total spoiled divas nonstop

They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid).


And they claim they're the reason minecraft is big and that we should thank them more than anyone else in the community. They're total dicks


A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.

Sounds like Yogscast are acting like gits.

Not gonna say he's telling lies or not but that doesn't sound at all like them.It takes 5 secs to go to youtube and make a search of their stuff and see they're just 2 brits having fun.Sure dry humour is not for everyone but some one here is exagerating alot. This is why I always stayed away from Minecraft,idolizing someone like it happened with Notched could only lead to stuff like this.

Also if it's one thing I hate is people feeling offended on behalf of others.Like really in our society he thinks 14 yrs are saints who would blush at the word fuck? Dunno to me he's making a fool of himself and reveals that after all he's a big douche too.

 

[ExodusFlame]

The thing is as you mentioned your son watches the Yogscast Here is the thing THEY SWEAR ALL THE TIME NOT JUST IN PUBLIC! if your offended by now then you've kind of caught on a bit fucking late and at the age of 9 they will know all of the swear words in the book. So why be offended? you allow your kid to watch them at home where is the difference at a public event hell if its that big a problem think of all the people that watch they're videos on Youtube over 1 million subscribers and only recently is this considered a problem.

Anyways with the Yogscast most of it does not sound like they're sort of behavior at all although one or two things may be misdirected humor some of it hit and miss in 1 case maybe a miss but don't ask me have a look at what Totalbiscut had to say the man who made the Yogscast fan base much much larger than it previously was.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mkjci/hate_insults_and_threats_are_flooding_in_from/c31oib6

The link is from someone who commented a few posts before me i just thought it needed to be posted again and partly because i thought something else needed to be explained like who Totalbiscuit is if nobody has heard of him and why his comments are more relevant than Anybody's on the matter.

Totalbiscuit is an other British verity gaming commentator/Youtuber who makes many videos featuring games and even talks allot with his fans about issues in gameing and does lets-plays/featurettes of games and is essentially partly the man who made the Yogscast famous in the first place when he did things such as do his series "the Yogscast and Totalbiscut play Magika".

Also i think sometimes Notch needs to be reminded YOU ARE A FUCKING INDIE DEVELOPER! not a AAA gaming company such as the ones trying to sue you such as Bethesda if they were to act like trolls and regular people like you do on most occasions they would lose a giant portion of they're fan base and consumers for pulling the sort of crap you pull sometimes just like anyone else.

Fuckups happen get over it everything is always a bit hit and miss especially when it comes to comedy it varies usually from where people come from as well what may be the funniest joke in Germany might not even get a peep from an american audience or a British audience what is acceptable in the UK might not be in the US.

 

[cgentero]

From what I understand the Yogscast people were being dicks the entire time at MineCon, a person who worked there posted on Reddit they were acting like self entitled brats, it wasn't just the swearing that got Notch upset.

From Notchs Twitter

A kid wanted them to sign something I had signed, and they said they'd cross it out and put "fuck you" there instead.

I'm surprised the kids father didn't punch them for that.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

This may seem way off the topic...

What is Yogcast?

. They are 2 British gamers who got famous for their Minecraft series, but started out doing Wow tutorials. They are genuinely pretty funny...( More so that most main-Stream comidians today) Personally I find it hard to believe that they would write "Fuck off" on somebody's autograph... but Hey.

Well they might. Characters yelling "FARK OFF" (because of the accent, see) to children is one of the recurring jokes on their podcast.

 

[gavinstaceyvg]

The Youtube 'community' is one of the deepest cesspools of casual racism, homophobia, sexism and just plain ignorance on the internet.

it really, really isn't. I'm not saying there aren't all of those things on youtube but it really isn't one of the worst. I can think of hundreds of websites that are far worse. In my opinion a huge amount of the youtube community (there's really no need quotation marks there - it is a real community) works for good causes and adds a lot to thousands of different areas. Just like there are disagreeable people on the escapist forums there are on youtube but don't tar them all with one brush. You don't get to do that. No one does.