Notch Tweets Rage Over Minecraft Party Sexual Assault

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Jadak

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Rocklobster99 said:
Andy Chalk said:
"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.
No kidding, I know this is supposed to be a serious topic, but reading that just made me burst out laughing.
 

Cid Silverwing

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Fuck the dickhead, fuck the pig guard, and sort-of fuck the victim for not causing a scene and alerting everyone to it.

Everyone loses. Squee to Notch for being pissed at this.

Captcha: bigger in texas... Wait, WHAT.
 

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chadachada123 said:
Lyri said:
2: So from what you're saying is that it's insulting to you because they assume you'd suffer like they did?
You're not very empathetic are you? Someone who has gone through those very experiences probably couldn't see how you wouldn't react like they did.
There is some serious arrogance in your statement, you could only guess how you would react and not say for definite.

3: Do you even realise how far you're running with such a minor point right now? Someone assumed you would need help if you were to suffer such an attack and you're actually reacting like they're infringing upon you somehow? lol
As I said, delicate flower.

4That analogy is completely off and it isn't over generalizing it's just an assumption. Either way, none of those two are insulting.

5: Because you're calling "You would probably suffer just as much as anybody else" insane. That's why.
Again, it belittles nobody so stop playing that card.
Empathetic is not equivalent to saying that someone WILL go through the very same experience. I'm very capable of empathy. I'm very capable of looking at someone's situation and seeing how THEY could suffer from it.

She said I will absolutely be traumatized. She didn't say probably. She didn't say most likely. She said that I absolutely will.

If she would back off and just say "not everyone is alike, but most people yada yada," then we would have never had this problem to begin with.

Number five is the most hilarious and most incorrect of your points, because she did not say "You would probably suffer." She said I WILL suffer.

If you can't see the major distinction between the two (between PROBABLY and ABSOLUTELY), then there's no sense in continuing this conversation since we're clearly speaking separate languages.
It shouldn't matter what anybody said. Were you traumatised by an event relating to this discussion? No. Was she? Yes. Surely you could have just dropped it, or apologised for being so tactless.
 

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matthew_lane said:
Glass Joe the Champ said:
Wow, it's already hard enough to prove gamers aren't socially dysfunctional misogynists without freaks like this showing up. (the guy that is, not the girl of course)
/facepalm. Him being a gamer doesn't make him any better or worse by distinction of being a gamer. I could change around your statement to read

NOT Glass Joe the Champ said:
Wow, it's already hard enough to prove people who eat cereal for breakfast aren't socially dysfunctional misogynists without freaks like this showing up.
And it would be no less of a silly connection to make.
It don't mean that him being a gamer makes any difference to the story, what I mean is that the news media could easily twist the story into a narrative about the "horrible things videogames do to people" or whatever, like they've done in the past. I'm not saying it makes any logical sense, but it's still something that could sway some of the thicker folks out there.
 

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FelixG said:
BehattedWanderer said:
Get them. Get both culpable parties. Get the jerk who did it, and get the guard who dismissed it as nothing. This needs to be taken more seriously. Get them. Mike, Jerry, Notch, do whatever you guys need to do--find them.
it has been said before, but I guess ya missed all the times it was said, so I will say it again.

What exactly was the guard to do? There were no witnesses, she had been drinking, and her best description was 'a small asian guy.'

Legally all you can do as security is shrug. At the worst the security officer is guilty of being insensitive. If he had witnessed the act, then it would be a different story, but as it stood it was hearsay and not actionable.

Edit: Changed the tense, damn not sleeping enough
He could have done a lot. He could have reported it, followed through, gone to the area where it happened to see if the guy was around. He could have taken it to any one of the event organizers, sought more information about the person (for instance, hair length, color, clothes being worn, notable facial features), or just pass along the information to someone more helpful, instead of shrugging it off as just a thing. So sexual harassment is fine, when there are no witnesses and someone has been drinking? No. No it most definitely is not, in case there was any doubt in your mind. These kinds of events absolutely need to be reported, and the people responsible need to be held accountable. Even if the guard had no legal option, he could have called for someone that has the legal power to help. Passing it off as "not my problem" or "what can you do" is part of the problem. Tolerance for this kind of thing is why it continues to happen, and in defending it, you defend all forms of sexual assault.
 

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hooksashands said:
anthony87 said:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY
No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.
Well I'm flattered and all that but if you go back a page or two you'll see my post about the time some gay dude shoved his tongue in my ear, it very clearly outlines that I'm not into that kinda stuff.
 

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hooksashands said:
anthony87 said:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY
No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.
How against sexual harassment can you be when you threaten people with rape?
 

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hooksashands said:
I'm calling all three of you out. Your attitudes are indicative of this whole situation and each echos the same toothless sentiment:

"Oh well, not my problem."

Except it is your problem. It's her problem. It's the creeper's problem. And it's most definitely the security guard's problem.

It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it.

-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."
-"She was drunk."
-"It was a large crowd."

...are not valid excuses. By extension of this shitty logic, rapists are totally in the clear unless the victim is sober and being violated in plain sight of an authority figure.

I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his ***** during your inevitable prison sentences.
"It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it."

Nobody has denied that there SHOULD be consequences, but the reality of the situation is that there most likely won't be because the situation is what it is. Sexual harassment cases and similar things are always difficult to deal with, and this one crosses the threshold in both difficulty to investigate and prosecut and harmlessness to society that it most likely won't be seen in court.

This is the reality of the situation; if you can't see it, either you know nothing of the subject or close your eyes and go "lalalalalala".



-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."

Then do tell, with your superior knowledge about the authority and job description of the average security guard, what action could he have taken? Other than calling the police, which she could have done by herself, there was nothing that he could do, expect turn vigilante, become batman and catching him.

-"It was a large crowd."

But this is a valid reason. The police can conduct a search for this man, and maybe find him and bring him to justice, but the security guard can't. Again, take it to the police.

"I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his ***** during your inevitable prison sentences."

What does this have to do with anything? You launch an attack at me, telling I am scum, without apparently even reading my post or understanding my point. Classy, dear sir.
 

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Go Notch! Shame Ky probably will forget what this arsehole looks like.
 

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OniaPL said:
"It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it."

Nobody has denied that there SHOULD be consequences, but the reality of the situation is that there most likely won't be because the situation is what it is. Sexual harassment cases and similar things are always difficult to deal with, and this one crosses the threshold in both difficulty to investigate and prosecut and harmlessness to society that it most likely won't be seen in court.

This is the reality of the situation; if you can't see it, either you know nothing of the subject or close your eyes and go "lalalalalala".



-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."

Then do tell, with your superior knowledge about the authority and job description of the average security guard, what action could he have taken? Other than calling the police, which she could have done by herself, there was nothing that he could do, expect turn vigilante, become batman and catching him.

-"It was a large crowd."

But this is a valid reason. The police can conduct a search for this man, and maybe find him and bring him to justice, but the security guard can't. Again, take it to the police.

"I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his ***** during your inevitable prison sentences."

What does this have to do with anything? You launch an attack at me, telling I am scum, without apparently even reading my post or understanding my point. Classy, dear sir.
Awh don't go and LOGIC him! He'll run off talking about how he's on probation as if it's some sort of big deal if you go ahead and do that!
 

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Should have ripped his little, insecure Asian penis off.

That is, if it was big enough to have a grip. I don't care if the guy was drunk, is it so hard to hire a prostitute these days?

blalien said:
I am getting more and more fed up with the Escapist community with every post about sexual assault getting more jokes than anger in response. I sincerely hope the guy responsible gets caught and punished to the full extent of the law, and the security company issues a public apology immediately.
And I am getting fed up with the need for people to turn every threat in the Escapist in a "gender issues" battleground.

I prefer jokes over rage fuel that only piss me off.

Evil Smurf said:
Go Notch! Shame Ky probably will forget what this arsehole looks like.
Yeah, plus those Asian guys always look the sa... nvm.
 

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The Plunk said:
hooksashands said:
I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his ***** during your inevitable prison sentences.
hooksashands said:
anthony87 said:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY
No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.
"You have a different opinion from me because you are not automatically sympathetic to people that claim to have been sexually assaulted, therefore you should be raped."

Wow, I'm really quite impressed. Hypocritical moralfags usually have much worse spelling than this.
You....you don't happen to post on the Dead Baby Jokes page on Facebook do you? Because your post is EXACTLY like the posts that you'd see on that page.
 

chozo_hybrid

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See, this is why we can't have nice things!

In all seriousness, this sucks and I hope they somehow catch the guy, maybe he'll show up at the next one and she will be able to point him out and they can do something about it.