Notch Tweets Rage Over Minecraft Party Sexual Assault

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Do4600

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Therumancer said:
But hey, that's parties.
The single sickest, saddest comment I've ever seen on this site.
Clearly, you didn't see the thread where people said they'd let a human drown for a pet.
Oh yes.

I know people say things like: "made me lose faith in humanity" etc. That thread made me depressed for a week, even made me reconsider the studies about video games making people apathetic and socially amoral.
 

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That line sounds like something out of a very tasteless comedy. What a fuckwit.



But that poor girl, I give her huge props for not ruining the atmosphere of the party on the shoulders of some douche bags problems, but she should have gone straight to the police and at least filed a complaint when security failed at...being security, public displays like that are not okay. I hope Notch does help find this creep and finds a way to reprimand that Sec-officer for not at least throwing the little shit out on his arse. What you're so 'busy' you can't apprehend an insecure little man-child who's got his cock out on display? WELL THEN, YOU FAIL AT YOUR JOB SIR.
 

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Do4600 said:
Oh yes.

I know people say things like: "made me lose faith in humanity" etc. That thread made me depressed for a week, even made me reconsider the studies about video games making people apathetic and socially amoral.
Ironically, most people who say that probably voted to save the pet.

And same, although I realized that these attitudes have been around for decades, and hence could not be created by video games or the internet, although they may have been strengthened by it.
 

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Charli said:
That line sounds like something out of a very tasteless comedy. What a fuckwit.



But that poor girl, I give her huge props for not ruining the atmosphere of the party on the shoulders of some douche bags problems, but she should have gone straight to the police and at least filed a complaint when security failed at...being security, public displays like that are not okay. I hope Notch does help find this creep and finds a way to reprimand that Sec-officer for not at least throwing the little shit out on his arse. What you're so 'busy' you can't apprehend an insecure little man-child who's got his cock out on display? WELL THEN, YOU FAIL AT YOUR JOB SIR.
Pretty sure they couldn't find the man after the incident. Security didn't have to be a prick about it though
 

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Call me a sexist misogynistic pig if you must, but reading over this thread it seems like everyone is confused.
Those of us who don't see what happened to her as that big of a deal aren't sexist, quite the opposite in fact, it's all of you who joining the lynch mob who are the real sexists.

hear me out...

A common theme amongst those who don't see the big deal is that they've placed themselves in the victims shoes, and responded based on how THEY would have reacted. In essence they're treating the victim as a perfect equal. They see no difference between her and themselves, and while that may be a little insensitive given that men and women see things fundamentally different, it isn't sexist, perhaps a little childish though.

Everyone else on the other hand seems to be treating the victim as a delicate flower that needs to be shielded from harm at all times, that she can't possibly look after herself, and it's up to us [men] to ensure things like this never happen to poor women like her. The over reaction of situations like this show people still hold women in lesser regard, that they're such innocent and gentle beings that it takes an horrific monster to commit such an act and the only ones that can make a difference are men.

just saiyan.
 

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acosn said:
Don't go to parties with a bunch of strangers.

Don't drink yourself into a state of mild inebriation if you do go against common wisdom, and do go to parties with a bunch of strangers.

This especially applies to parties associated with video games. I mean, have you seen what people pass off as perfectly normal / acceptable behavior online? Now put them in a room with alcohol.
Don't take your dick out in public.

Don't make strangers touch your dick without their consent.

DON'T TAKE YOUR DICK OUT IN PUBLIC.

LOOK I SOLVED THE WHOLE THING WITHOUT PUTTING THE VICTIM AT FAULT...FUCKING AMAZING...I DESERVE SOME KIND OF NOBEL PRIZE.
 

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She should have laughed at him when he got his knob out and told him "oh yeah, I see your problem it is kind of small".

That would hurt far more than any punishment from the law. He would deserve it too, you don't go around waving your wang at people like that.
 

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mirasiel said:
acosn said:
Don't go to parties with a bunch of strangers.

Don't drink yourself into a state of mild inebriation if you do go against common wisdom, and do go to parties with a bunch of strangers.

This especially applies to parties associated with video games. I mean, have you seen what people pass off as perfectly normal / acceptable behavior online? Now put them in a room with alcohol.
Don't take your dick out in public.

Don't make strangers touch your dick without their consent.

DON'T TAKE YOUR DICK OUT IN PUBLIC.

LOOK I SOLVED THE WHOLE THING WITHOUT PUTTING THE VICTIM AT FAULT...FUCKING AMAZING...I DESERVE SOME KIND OF NOBEL PRIZE.
It really needs to be said that what he did was inexcusable?

No. No it doesn't. As if what he did being illegal wasn't enough, it doesn't even register on the radar of acceptable social behavior.
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
.................... *goes on for eternity like that*...

Why wouldn't you go get help? Why would that effect you so badly? Why didn't the security guard do SOMETHING (even if it was to offer solace)? Why wasn't there a better investigation where you could get a sketch of the dude or security photage? just WHY?!

To be honest, a part of this sounds fishy to me. Almost like the girl is fabricating the whole thing. BUT I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE... well... Who just walks away after a creepy dude puts his dick on you? NO NO, who let's themselves be in that situation?

I'm sure that there's a bunch of people who could jump all over me for what I just said. But honestly? It's really a whole lot less about what I just said, and a whole lot more of "WHY?!" This whole thing's just bizarre.
I was in a similar situation once. My mom had to force me to report it, because I just wanted to forget about it.

Something like that, no matter how small, freaks you out internally. For *years* afterward, I went out of my way to avoid the place it happened, disrupting my daily schedule. I can't explain why, there was no logical reason. I just didn't want to remember or deal with it anymore. I wanted to stop being traumatized and get on with my life.

It's not a matter of 'letting' yourself be in that situation. It just happens. Sometimes so fast it's only a half-hour later that you snap out of your shock to realize what happened.

So, dude gets drunk and does something inappropriate. Girl gets understandably upset and informs security. Security does nothing, and girl is subject to accusations of lying. I want to be shocked and disgusted, but I can't even be surprised by it anymore.
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
littlealicewhite said:
Mimsofthedawg said:
.................... *goes on for eternity like that*...

Why wouldn't you go get help? Why would that effect you so badly? Why didn't the security guard do SOMETHING (even if it was to offer solace)? Why wasn't there a better investigation where you could get a sketch of the dude or security photage? just WHY?!

To be honest, a part of this sounds fishy to me. Almost like the girl is fabricating the whole thing. BUT I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE... well... Who just walks away after a creepy dude puts his dick on you? NO NO, who let's themselves be in that situation?

I'm sure that there's a bunch of people who could jump all over me for what I just said. But honestly? It's really a whole lot less about what I just said, and a whole lot more of "WHY?!" This whole thing's just bizarre.
I was in a similar situation once. My mom had to force me to report it, because I just wanted to forget about it.

Something like that, no matter how small, freaks you out internally. For *years* afterward, I went out of my way to avoid the place it happened, disrupting my daily schedule. I can't explain why, there was no logical reason. I just didn't want to remember or deal with it anymore. I wanted to stop being traumatized and get on with my life.

It's not a matter of 'letting' yourself be in that situation. It just happens. Sometimes so fast it's only a half-hour later that you snap out of your shock to realize what happened.

So, dude gets drunk and does something inappropriate. Girl gets understandably upset and informs security. Security does nothing, and girl is subject to accusations of lying. I want to be shocked and disgusted, but I can't even be surprised by it anymore.
OH MY EFFEN BUDDHA GOD FROM SATANIC HELL, I WAS NOT ACCUSING HER OF LYING! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'm just going to rage quit these forums. This is absurd.

On a FORUM, which she probably is not apart of, but even if she was, I was not saying it directly to her, I made mention that the facts of her story seem odd, as though they don't add up. Good lord do I also know the trauma of sexual assault. it took my current gf YEARS before she told me what happened to her once, and it has totally effected her in the worst way possible. several ex gf's, my sister, best friends, etc. etc. etc. Go down the line. I've had friends and have helped them through it. I'm not a misogynistic ass of a guy that just doesn't get it. That's not the point. I feel sorry for her. I would give anything to help, and believe me my heart goes out to her and if I met her face to face I would comfort her, be disgusted, and want to offer my support.

But these things just don't add up completely. Venues like that are FULL of security. the guards there aren't rent a cops, they're professionally trained to deal specifically with situations like that, ESPECIALLY situations like that. Given the nature of the event, with a good sketch, etc. it would probably be easy to track the guy down. No security guard would jsut "shrug". Never mind the fact that many events like that are invite only, with hardly any breathing room. The very notion she was in a room alone with a guy like that during an event that was would have been so packed is odd. I can go on. All I'm saying is that those things don't entirely add up. Then there's the fact that she went to twitter. So you're telling me that you wanted to just forget it, pretend it never even happened etc., right? I'd expect that. That's what normal people do. Normal people avoid the subject. They don't go blabbering about it to the entire world. I'm not saying that normal people SHOULD avoid it (it's not my place to say if they should or shouldn't). It's that, as I said, my gf herself couldn't tell me she had been raped by her sister because of how embarassed she was. I can't fathom her expressing that on her twitter account.

At this point I don't even care. And I'm just so pist that people would attack me for wanting to apply some logic to this situation. And I also don't know why I'm even bothering to reply. People are going to read what they want, and clearly it's going to be nothing good. I'm just so sick of how judgemental people are. How defensive they are. They drop true care and compassion at the door for petty causes and politics, talking a good talk but never truly acting in upstanding ways. This is bull shit. Reply if you want. I'm hitting hte delete button when it hits my inbox.
Whoa man whoa, I can only hope you don't delete this and give it a chance, you need to calm down. Yes people misunderstood your comment, but that does not mean that you should act like everyone's against you, if you are that irritated, than edit your original post so that your point is a bit clearer. In fact, as far as I was concerned you were a voice of reason on this thread, and then you hit the fucking roof and just attacked everyone and lashed out for no real reason. I said it to someone else, and now I'm saying it to you, when you tell people your pissed, think this is all bullshit, and tell people you don't care what they think and that if they respond you won't care, than you need to step back, breath, and take a nice therapeutic bath.
 

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littlealicewhite said:
So, dude gets drunk and does something inappropriate. Girl gets understandably upset and informs security. Security does nothing, and girl is subject to accusations of lying. I want to be shocked and disgusted, but I can't even be surprised by it anymore.
I don't think anyone is accusing her of lying. What is being said is that there isn't enough proof of what happened to warrant an arrest.

A misdemeanor requires the arresting party to have actually witnessed first-hand the crime committed (by direct sight or through surveillance equipment). If the girl had wanted to make a citizen's arrest, she certainly could have, but the security guard had no legal authority to arrest the offender.

Yes, this sucks in this particular situation, but it is a protection put in place so as to prevent wrongful arrests. American law always presumes innocence, and if we have to let a few perverts get off the hook in order to prevent the arrest of innocents, so be it.

I do feel it would have been appropriate, had the girl been able to identify the guy, for the guard to explain the situation to his supervisor, who could have then discretely asked him to leave the premises. If he refused, then he could be arrested for trespassing.
 

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You know what I do when women pushes my hand into her breasts or vagina?
1. I pull my hand back
2. I tell her to get away from me
3. I shrug it off
4. (optional) I get a drink
5. I DO NOT run around and tell everyone that I was sexually assaulted
Why?
Because at this point I pretty much accepted that this world is full of jerks, and if I'll stop and complain every time I've been done wrong, I wouldn't get anywhere or accomplish anything.
Not that I'm defending that dick-flapping a-hole.
But right reaction would be to start hysterically laugh and then say that this is actually tiny dick :D

captcha: I like humans
NO I DON'T!!!
 

Vault101

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I'm done with this forum. I can't handle the sexism here anymore. I don't know about you guys, but I'm going back into the real world, starting with my upcoming enlistment in the Navy.

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you may be gone by now...but I'm a little insulted at the "real world" acusation

I hate it when people throw around that BS phrase
 

mirasiel

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acosn said:
mirasiel said:
acosn said:
Don't go to parties with a bunch of strangers.

Don't drink yourself into a state of mild inebriation if you do go against common wisdom, and do go to parties with a bunch of strangers.

This especially applies to parties associated with video games. I mean, have you seen what people pass off as perfectly normal / acceptable behavior online? Now put them in a room with alcohol.
Don't take your dick out in public.

Don't make strangers touch your dick without their consent.

DON'T TAKE YOUR DICK OUT IN PUBLIC.

LOOK I SOLVED THE WHOLE THING WITHOUT PUTTING THE VICTIM AT FAULT...FUCKING AMAZING...I DESERVE SOME KIND OF NOBEL PRIZE.
It really needs to be said that what he did was inexcusable?

No. No it doesn't. As if what he did being illegal wasn't enough, it doesn't even register on the radar of acceptable social behavior.
Well apparently you needed to be told and so did he.

Here's a hint, the person who needs to modify their behavior in this situation...its not the girl, which is what you seem to be implying.
 

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Rainboq said:
The guard could have sealed it, called the party to a halt and had the men form a lineup and have her pick out the guy, or seal the place and call the police. Doing nothing was the absolutely worst thing he could have done.

Damn, I know that some people live in their bubbles without any sort of idea what the real world is like, but this takes it to a whole different level.

Where do you live? Narnia or Neverland? Or perhaps You are one of Santa Claus' little helpers? :D