As an American citizen may I add this?Mr.K. said:This is why people think most Americans don't have all their nuts in one basket, or in his case any nuts at all.
The amount of stupidity that one man can utter truly astounds me.
"Act now, and don't question what or why."There'll be time for talk and debate later. This is the time, this is the day for decisive action.
We can't wait for the next unspeakable crime to happen before we act. We can't lose precious time debating legislation that won't work. We mustn't allow politics or personal prejudice to divide us. We must act now.
So very correct.Atmos Duality said:Obvious political bandwagon is obvious.
School shooting occurs, politicos blame video games instead of the actual perpetrator (the psycho(s) who went on a murder spree) because they need to wash their hands of any social negligence in order to pin it on something convenient.
Same goddamn song and dance I've seen most of my life.
I especially love this nugget. One of the American classics, for sure.
"Act now, and don't question what or why."There'll be time for talk and debate later. This is the time, this is the day for decisive action.
We can't wait for the next unspeakable crime to happen before we act. We can't lose precious time debating legislation that won't work. We mustn't allow politics or personal prejudice to divide us. We must act now.
Yeah, this is sensationalist bullshit on par with CNN punditry; a complete appeal to pathos without an ounce of logic behind it.
I'm not losing sleep over their statement, though it saddens me that there are people; a lot of people, who will eat this shit up on the spot.
Then email/call/write him and tell him to knock it off. You're a member, and it's your responsibility to stand up to crap like this. If they don't change, it becomes your responsibility to stop giving them money.theevilgenius60 said:Damn it Wayne! It's not the video games' fault that this happened. I'm a member of the NRA and this is the wrong thing to come out and say. That guy was messed up in the head. Hell, for all we know, the games were the only thing that kept him in check for as long as he was. Video games don't cause crime, criminals do. All of the NRA members I know also play games. This probably isn't indicative of the majority of the membership, but it's true just the same. They also(myself included) aren't dangerous. They practice good gun safety, and generally just target shoot and hunt deer. That said, games aren't some virtual reality murder training seminar. Most play to blow off steam or experience a story as part of the dramatis persona. Yes, some people are more serious than that, but some people are that way about model kits, comic collecting, squeezing every last drop of power of their computer, and yes, their gun collection. It's called a hobby, Wayne. I know you want to deflect some of the criticism aimed at us gun owners, and you should. But aim the criticism at the real culprit(the horrible state of the American mental healthcare system) and not at the popular red herring that is video games.
Should say that America counts of the vast majority of western violent gun deaths and if you discount drug wars (Mexico) and civil wars (Syria and parts of Africa) going on most violent gun deaths period.Ronack said:Let's look at some interesting fact:
Violent Videogames in Europe: Yes
Gun Violence in Europe: Minimal
Violent Videogames in America: Yes
Gun Violence in America: Accounts for the vast majority of the world's percentage in violent deaths due to guns.
NRA: 0 - Ronack: 1
Oh don't worry, I did. It was a more cordial version of what I wrote here(no "dammit Wayne"). I pay dues for them to keep the second amendment intact, not to have them misrepresent me(them being the spokesmen, lobbyists, etc.).delroland said:Then email/call/write him and tell him to knock it off. You're a member, and it's your responsibility to stand up to crap like this. If they don't change, it becomes your responsibility to stop giving them money.theevilgenius60 said:Damn it Wayne! It's not the video games' fault that this happened. I'm a member of the NRA and this is the wrong thing to come out and say. That guy was messed up in the head. Hell, for all we know, the games were the only thing that kept him in check for as long as he was. Video games don't cause crime, criminals do. All of the NRA members I know also play games. This probably isn't indicative of the majority of the membership, but it's true just the same. They also(myself included) aren't dangerous. They practice good gun safety, and generally just target shoot and hunt deer. That said, games aren't some virtual reality murder training seminar. Most play to blow off steam or experience a story as part of the dramatis persona. Yes, some people are more serious than that, but some people are that way about model kits, comic collecting, squeezing every last drop of power of their computer, and yes, their gun collection. It's called a hobby, Wayne. I know you want to deflect some of the criticism aimed at us gun owners, and you should. But aim the criticism at the real culprit(the horrible state of the American mental healthcare system) and not at the popular red herring that is video games.
You forgot:Ronack said:Let's look at some interesting fact:
Violent Videogames in Europe: Yes
Gun Violence in Europe: Minimal
Violent Videogames in America: Yes
Gun Violence in America: Accounts for the vast majority of the world's percentage in violent deaths due to guns.
NRA: 0 - Ronack: 1
1) NBK is a work of fiction, and so using it to argue a point on gun violence is pretty silly. That being said,Arslan Aladeen said:Wasn't the whole point of Natural Born Killers about the media glorifying violence? At least a strong theme in it. I don't know, just seems sorta funny that he would be using that movie as an example. As far as the whole issue is concerned, I don't see movies or games or whatever capable of turning anyone into a psychopath, aside from those who already would've been one anyway. And I don't see why people are so uptight about stricter rules for owning something which the sole purpose of is to kill.