Nvidia sheild console ?150 Nintendo Switch ?280???

[votemarvel]

The games. If you want to play a Zelda game or a Mario game (legit) on the go, you will have to choose one of Nintendo's handhelds. I prefer not to carry a Vita around but if I want to play Final Fantasy X on the go, I will.

The thing is that like many in today's game market Nintendo also need to compete against the more extra legal avenues that people can take.

I can play Nintendo games up to the GameCube on a device I already own and am already going to be carrying with me, and the peripherals are a fraction of the price of those sold for the Switch.

What are Nintendo offering to make someone like me want to carry around an extra device? As has been said 'graphics don't make a good game' and there are a wealth of older Nintendo games available to play.

That for me would be the temptation of the Switch if it were to happen. Imagine Nintendo getting their back catalogue of titles, from the NES and GameBoy up to the GameCube, onto the Switch's digital storefront at reasonable prices. I'd be snapping their hands off the get hold of one.

Sadly though that seems to be something Nintendo want to avoid doing. They have one of the best game libraries in the business and yet they hoard them like a miser.

 

[WeepingAngels]

The games. If you want to play a Zelda game or a Mario game (legit) on the go, you will have to choose one of Nintendo's handhelds. I prefer not to carry a Vita around but if I want to play Final Fantasy X on the go, I will.

The thing is that like many in today's game market Nintendo also need to compete against the more extra legal avenues that people can take.

I can play Nintendo games up to the GameCube on a device I already own and am already going to be carrying with me, and the peripherals are a fraction of the price of those sold for the Switch.

What are Nintendo offering to make someone like me want to carry around an extra device? As has been said 'graphics don't make a good game' and there are a wealth of older Nintendo games available to play.

That for me would be the temptation of the Switch if it were to happen. Imagine Nintendo getting their back catalogue of titles, from the NES and GameBoy up to the GameCube, onto the Switch's digital storefront at reasonable prices. I'd be snapping their hands off the get hold of one.

Sadly though that seems to be something Nintendo want to avoid doing. They have one of the best game libraries in the business and yet they hoard them like a miser.

So you can play Nintendo games on your phone up to Gamecube and you want Nintendo to compete with free. As far as Virtual Console, after 3 devices Nintendo has shown that they are completely incompetent in this area.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

You do realize that Nintendo will sell more than 15 million Switch devices in Japan alone?

This is replacing 3DS in Japan by early 2018 and that's what matters over there - not specs. There is like 3.5 mil Wii U sold in Japan and 4 mil PS4s, compare that to 22 mil 3DS and 7 mil Vitas. As soon as Switch gets Splatoon2, Minecraft, DQ, MH and Pokemon Stars nothing else will matter.

I had to laugh. 15 million, and replacing the 3DS. Firstly, what are you basing that projected number on, and secondly, Nintendo have stated that the Switch won't be replacing the 3DS.

 

[totheendofsin]

You do realize that Nintendo will sell more than 15 million Switch devices in Japan alone?

This is replacing 3DS in Japan by early 2018 and that's what matters over there - not specs. There is like 3.5 mil Wii U sold in Japan and 4 mil PS4s, compare that to 22 mil 3DS and 7 mil Vitas. As soon as Switch gets Splatoon2, Minecraft, DQ, MH and Pokemon Stars nothing else will matter.

I had to laugh. 15 million, and replacing the 3DS. Firstly, what are you basing that projected number on, and secondly, Nintendo have stated that the Switch won't be replacing the 3DS.

I feel like I should point out that they also said the ds wouldn't replace the gameboy. They say The Switch isn't replacing the 3ds because they don't know if it will do well enough to replace it, if it succeeds the ds line will be replaced with the Switch line (though they may try to make one that's more "portable into console" than "console into portable") if it doesn't then we'll get 3ds 2

 

[votemarvel]

So you can play Nintendo games on your phone up to Gamecube and you want Nintendo to compete with free. As far as Virtual Console, after 3 devices Nintendo has shown that they are completely incompetent in this area.

Why not. Valve manage it perfectly well with Steam on the PC and as I'm sure you'll agree, they make gamers happy and make a rather substantial profit while doing it.

The difference for Nintendo would simply be that all money is going directly to them instead of having to pass through a third party.

 

[Las7]

I had to laugh. 15 million, and replacing the 3DS. Firstly, what are you basing that projected number on, and secondly, Nintendo have stated that the Switch won't be replacing the 3DS.

Switch is more attractive than 3DS at launch. 3DS at launch's biggest game was Ace Attorney, it cost Y25,000, 3D didn't work well, DS was still around. Nintendo has sold over 60 million 3DS ofcourse they will continue to support it with smaller titles. But at launch 3DS was far worse of a value than Switch. 3DS had a worse launch year lineup. 3DS had a worse gimmick. 3DS sold around 4 million in Japan first year and I expect at minimum Switch to do a similar amount. Minecraft and Splatoon are bigger than any title that came out on the 3DS first year.
Sales will completely slow down as soon once a new Pokemon, MH or DQ is announced as an exclusive on the Switch.

 

[Paradine]

Give this a watch, i've been following this guy for a few months now and he really does know his stuff. He gives unbiased news on all the platforms and this one inparticular covers the Switch.

 

[WeepingAngels]

You do realize that Nintendo will sell more than 15 million Switch devices in Japan alone?

This is replacing 3DS in Japan by early 2018 and that's what matters over there - not specs. There is like 3.5 mil Wii U sold in Japan and 4 mil PS4s, compare that to 22 mil 3DS and 7 mil Vitas. As soon as Switch gets Splatoon2, Minecraft, DQ, MH and Pokemon Stars nothing else will matter.

I had to laugh. 15 million, and replacing the 3DS. Firstly, what are you basing that projected number on, and secondly, Nintendo have stated that the Switch won't be replacing the 3DS.

Whether or not the Switch replaces the 3DS will be determined by the succes of the Switch. Nintendo has a history with this sort of thing. They once said the DS wouldn't replace the Gameboy line, and then the DS was successful.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Switch is more attractive than 3DS at launch.

3DS has a better battery.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Whether or not the Switch replaces the 3DS will be determined by the succes of the Switch. Nintendo has a history with this sort of thing. They once said the DS wouldn't replace the Gameboy line, and then the DS was successful.

The DS had more power and allowed them to do more. People like the idea of more powerful hardware.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Whether or not the Switch replaces the 3DS will be determined by the succes of the Switch. Nintendo has a history with this sort of thing. They once said the DS wouldn't replace the Gameboy line, and then the DS was successful.

The DS had more power and allowed them to do more. People like the idea of more powerful hardware.

We weren't talking about why the DS succeeded, we were discussing that Nintendo was less than honest about the future of the Game Boy line.

 

[totheendofsin]

ok, here's the thing, once a monster hunter game gets announced for the Switch it will be a success in japan, that is not even a question at this point, portability + MH equals selling gangbusters in Japan. They will admittedly have more difficulty being successful in the western market, but I can see it happening.

 

[Las7]

Switch is more attractive than 3DS at launch.

3DS has a better battery.

The battery duration will vary depending on screen brightness and usage. The average duration will be 3-5 hours when playing Nintendo 3DS software, and 5-8 hours when playing Nintendo DS software.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-3DS-2DS/FAQ/Hardware/How-long-does-the-battery-last-/How-long-does-the-battery-last--242771.html

The battery life at launch was mocked, same with the specs, same with the price, same with the launch lineup, same with the 3D. 3DS was an abject failure until the holidays when it dropped in price and there was actual games coming out. Yet despite the horrible launch it sold more in it's launch year than the Wii U's entire lifespan.
Switch is actually a lot better it combines console/handheld lineup, it is an exponential upgrade compared to past dedicated handhelds, the price could have been better but it's basically $50 more than 3DS at launch. While the gimmick of local multiplayer on the go that you can share with friends who don't own the handheld. People keep forgetting 3DS was awful at launch and that Switch and the joycons are so much more comfortable than the clunky 3DS for a child, especially for showing and actually allowing multiple people to enjoy the same device at the same time.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

The average duration will be 3-5 hours when playing Nintendo 3DS software, and 5-8 hours when playing Nintendo DS software.

And what about Switch software? It has a crap battery, which means people probably won't be buying it for the portable features, which means it is a 3rd rate console. And with no decent 3rd part support, it will fail.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

We weren't talking about why the DS succeeded, we were discussing that Nintendo was less than honest about the future of the Game Boy line.

If the Switch fails, they won't want to replace their current handheld with it. The DS succeeded so it made sense to replace the outdated handheld. In order for the Switch to be a viable consideration as a replacement for the DS lines, it has to sell better than them.

 

[WeepingAngels]

We weren't talking about why the DS succeeded, we were discussing that Nintendo was less than honest about the future of the Game Boy line.

If the Switch fails, they won't want to replace their current handheld with it. The DS succeeded so it made sense to replace the outdated handheld. In order for the Switch to be a viable consideration as a replacement for the DS lines, it has to sell better than them.

That's what I said. Nintendo though, won't come out and admit that the future of the 3DS is dependent on the success of the Switch.

 

[totheendofsin]

The average duration will be 3-5 hours when playing Nintendo 3DS software, and 5-8 hours when playing Nintendo DS software.

And what about Switch software? It has a crap battery, which means people probably won't be buying it for the portable features, which means it is a 3rd rate console. And with no decent 3rd part support, it will fail.

they've said 3-6 hours for the Switch, plus the Switch uses USB C so portable chargers will be able to extend that

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

The average duration will be 3-5 hours when playing Nintendo 3DS software, and 5-8 hours when playing Nintendo DS software.

And what about Switch software? It has a crap battery, which means people probably won't be buying it for the portable features, which means it is a 3rd rate console. And with no decent 3rd part support, it will fail.

they've said 3-6 hours for the Switch, plus the Switch uses USB C so portable chargers will be able to extend that

I think people are really underestimating the portable battery issue.

Those guys aren't really that expensive these days. We sold a crap ton of them at inflated Truck stop prices.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

they've said 3-6 hours for the Switch, plus the Switch uses USB C so portable chargers will be able to extend that

Most portable charges are 10-20,000mAh. I am not confident that one of them will be capable of fully recharging the Switch.

 

[votemarvel]

The important thing people are forgetting about the battery life of the Switch is that it is as good as it is because when portable the system's power is cut by 40%.

It is as I've said before are developers going to make games for the Switch when it is docked and then take the time to make sure it runs well when undocked, or is it more likely they will make the games for the undocked Switch.