Obama proposes requiring students to stay in high school

[Marcus Kehoe]

No it prevents persons under 18 from making a choice that will more than likely alter their lifestyle for the worse.

You know screw it if these kids want to make their own decision that will severely limit their choice of work then go ahead. I know that there are plenty of kids that do just fine dropping out, and I know that their are kids that really have no choice but to drop out. But I also know that most kids do very poorly when they dropout and end up with very low paying job's, end up on government support, or worse revert to crime.

So, you are helping them against their will. You are saying that you know what is better for them, and not them and their parents.

The fact that their are hundreds of social workers that have to check on family's to see if parents are treating their kids properly is enough answer for your question. To further answer it no, A lot of the time I don't think parents have their kids best interest at heart when they drop out. And how is it that me thinking that a kid should finish high school just my opinion, I think that most people believe that kids should finish high-school.

I don't know what's for best for every individual student when it comes to these issues, but for most it's best if they finish highschool, and if this law is implemented then of course their should be special exceptions and maybe kids who wouldn't have been able to finish their schooling will get a chance too.

 

[GistoftheFist]

I'd rather make it so that if you don't want to go to school, you can drop out with no enforcement. It's almost always the people who drop out that cause problems for the rest of us anyway. One less person to breathe the same air you are in a no-windowed classroom of 35.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

The fact that their are hundreds of social workers that have to check on family's to see if parents are treating their kids properly is enough answer for your question. To further answer it no, A lot of the time I don't think parents have their kids best interest at heart when they drop out. And how is it that me thinking that a kid should finish high school just my opinion, I think that most people believe that kids should finish high-school.

I don't know what's for best for every individual student when it comes to these issues, but for most it's best if they finish highschool, and if this law is implemented then of course their should be special exceptions and maybe kids who wouldn't have been able to finish their schooling will get a chance too.

So what counts as a special exception? What if a teen is offered a high paying job far away, and can't attend school because of it? Should he be forced to pass it over? What about people who actually have plans in order?

Maybe I'm just especially pissed because I'm still in High School. But America is supposed to be the land of the free, and if someone is deemed by the country to be old enough to get shot at for oil, they should be able to choose to attend school or not.

As soon as your 18 your free to do what you want, it says that at the beginning of the article, and no matter what I think once your 18 your free to do what you want.

 

[TheEndlessGrey]

Whether we want to admit it or not, there are plenty of jobs that do not require any kind of education, and someone has to do those jobs. Sure, the kids who are forced to stay in high school until they are 18 may or may not actually graduate, but if they don't, why are we paying for them to waste time? Just let them go on and get a head start on that Lead French-Fry Preparation Engineer position so they can start paying taxes rather than consuming them.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Yes, you can join at 17, but you get trained at that time, it's not that often that 17 year old's are sent to die right away. Most are trained till this finish high-school then get sent off.
Why do people say the US sucks when kids can be provided with an education for the most part free of charge. If kid drops out of school all the time and money spent teaching him is on paper made null and void. And in time's such as these where cyber schooling gives great alternatives to kids under different circumstances to learn, the reason's for dropping out become less and less yet still continue to rise.

Can you honestly tell me that you don't think that a country that could have the worlds best education system is doing quite poorly when compared to other countries should just let it happen? I f you have a better idea ten please let me hear it because I don't like the idea of forcing people to do anything but the dropout rates are ridicules now-a-days.

 

[DubMan]

As long as federal stipends for education are still directly tethered to the conditions of No Child Left Behind, forcing idiots with no motivation to finish school will artificially lower test scores, and in effect, school funding.

 

[FernandoV]

I REALLY hope the Democrats aren't actually going to stand behind such a stupid idea...

 

[Legiondude]

I think this would only be good if they could back American student culture with some motivation [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Q7-PY_m6Q]

Seriously, it feels absolutely terrible to go to class sometimes, and yet politicians wonder WHY we hate public school so much.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Yes, you can join at 17, but you get trained at that time, it's not that often that 17 year old's are sent to die right away. Most are trained till this finish high-school then get sent off.
Why do people say the US sucks when kids can be provided with an education for the most part free of charge. If kid drops out of school all the time and money spent teaching him is on paper made null and void. And in time's such as these where cyber schooling gives great alternatives to kids under different circumstances to learn, the reason's for dropping out become less and less yet still continue to rise.

Can you honestly tell me that you don't think that a country that could have the worlds best education system is doing quite poorly when compared to other countries should just let it happen? I f you have a better idea ten please let me hear it because I don't like the idea of forcing people to do anything but the dropout rates are ridicules now-a-days.

If a kid does indeed just want to drop out because their lazy, how is another year going to help? Do you honestly think they will say "Well, I was just gonna drop out, I mean, I have F's in every subject anyway, but since they are forcing me, I might as well try twice as hard!"

Hopefully them knowing they can't just dropout may make them actually work. And if they are actually unable to do the work due to difficulty they can join a special class that will help them( Throughout grade school I had to take them so I know they work). If a kid can hardly get through high-school then how do you think their gonna do in life after school.

 

[DRes82]

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/politics/2012/01/24/sotu-obama-education.cnn

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In his state of the union speech, Obama got on the topic of education. One of the biggest things that got me listening was obama requesting that states make laws that require kids to finish high school or until they turn 18.

What do you guys think of this? Should kids be required to finish high school?

Absolutely. I think this would be more likely to sway my vote than an empty promise about a moon base. Its terrifying to think that the current generation of children will one day run our country.

 

[Rule Britannia]

Yes, this is fine, it makes perfect sense to get people educated as much as you can get them to be before starting off by themselves.

 

[GenericAmerican]

You can force them to stay, but it won't change a single damn thing.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Hopefully them knowing they can't just dropout may make them actually work. And if they are actually unable to do the work due to difficulty they can join a special class that will help them( Throughout grade school I had to take them so I know they work). If a kid can hardly get through high-school then how do you think their gonna do in life after school.

That's ridiculous! If you take away someone's right not to do something, it will inspire them to do it better?

They are not adults at the time, their are a lot of right's they don't have. But wasting their right to a free education is just as sick as making the the kid stay another year. and by then they will likely be 18 so then the issue is dropped.

You know what I don't care anymore, yes it's their freedom to quit but it a statistical fact that most will suffer for it in their later. If they wanna dropout for a reason no other than laziness fine, I just don't wan to see them lining up for free government support.

Yes high-schools today suck, I had one of the worse one's. But you know what I did I changed my situation, I went to a cyber school and liked it more. Kids almost anywhere can do the same but they don't they just quit because they think it will be better, but it most likely won't be.

 

[Choppaduel]

Nope. Everyone should finish high-school, but I'm not gonna pay to try and keep your stupid kids in school when they are going to make every effort to get out. Got my own problems. Additionally, many people would be better off being cut lose at 16 and learning a trade, higher education is not for everyone.

Also, how do you not notice the conflict of interest here? THE SCHOOLS ARE STATE RUN.