Obesity Discrimination

[JochemHippie]

It has a stigma of laziness and greed. Which in most cases, is fairly accurate.
Personally I find it very unpleasant too look at. I'm talk obese here though, a little chubby is more then appreciated.

 

[doggy go 7]

according to science, being morbidly obese is linked with stupidity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-hB-sZIPBIk&list=UUlFSU9_bUb4Rc6OYfTt5SPw#t=234s , and there are actuall newspapers in the links if you don't want a man talking to you). So it's possibly not bias against very fat people, but very fat people also share a large section of quite dumb people. Perhaps. Maybe.

 

[miketehmage]

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You can't be born fat, you can be born so that you need to do more exercise to get thin. But you can't be born fat, and stay like that. Also, those surgeries cost thousands of dollars, so people don't pick on other people for not having them because of course they can't afford it. Let me ask you something, how much is it to go for a run? How much is it to go to the local park and do some exercise? How much is it to do about fifty push ups each day to keep fit. If you awnsered nothing, then you are correct. They may not be able to afford healthy food, but they can definetly afford to do exercise. I just hate it when I see people going "Stop making fun of me for my weight, it's who I am!" when all they are doing is trying to justify having a lifestyle that will kill them early. There is no reason why a person can't do exercise (unless of course they are disabled) so why should we let fat people get off it because we don't want to hurt their feelings? Also, if you become fat enough you become disabled you deserve everything that you get, you aren't unlucky or a victim of anything. You brought it upon yourself by not exercising and eating fast food every day of the week when you could easily afford to make your own nice and healthy meals.

I'm fat, and I accept all of what you said as true. I also don't make any excuses for it. And I'm not going to pretend I'm proud of it. But I simply can't be bothered to do those 50 pushups a day. I'm aware this is shortening my lifespan and I'm sure at some point I'll get around to actually exercising (some point soon). But I'm doing it because I want to be fit enough to play sport, and run longer, and fit into clothes.

My point here, is that you said people don't pick on you for not being able to afford operations. And you then go on to ask how much exercise costs. (of course free).

Does this mean they pick on me because I simply choose not to exercise? What's it to them? Why would I give a flying fuck about whether or not someone else wants me to exercise? I'll do it for me, and I'll do it when I am good and ready. Not cause some jackass just thinks I should.

As a side note: Outside of junior school I've never ever been given shit for being fat though. So my point was purely hypothetical. It just seems like you were annoyed at the mere existence of fat people.

 

[applesandoranges]

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[spartan231490]

they do, but I don't think it's undeserved. *raises flame shield*

 

[x-machina]

Isn't majority of the population overweight here in North America?

Is it even possible to discriminate against the majority of the population?

 

[Dags90]

Fuck exercise (though that is good). If you really want to lose weight then cut your food intake, I lost 3 and a half stone in about 3/4 of a year just by cutting down on snacks and reducing portions and cutting out fizzy drinks.

I laugh inside whenever I hear a Brit call sodas "fizzy drinks", it's even better than "pop". Thank you for that.

I think they probably do, but I haven't seen any studies showing the real economic impacts of it. I do wonder how much factors secondary to obesity, like self esteem or health, might be a part of it.

 

[mrhappy1489]

I honestly do not care what anyone says, fat people while causing multiple problems for our society (especially Australia and the US), they shouldn't be discriminated against. As much as I hate the amount of money spent upgrading facilities to accommodate fat people, I think discrimination is a step backwards in terms of where the world is going. While this is a self imposed problem and I do not feel sympathy for these people, I don't think going out and abusing them is really the right idea. OT, I do think that a large percentage of people are discriminant against fatty's, but in saying that I can understand where they come from, but would rather they didn't.

 

[mrhappy1489]

Isn't majority of the population overweight here in North America?

Is it even possible to discriminate against the majority of the population?

Study a bit of IR (International Relations), you'll understand that it is more than possible to discriminate against a majority population.

 

[nitetrain8]

As a fat person in the process of losing weight (start 225, down to 190 in 6 months atm @ 5'11), I no longer have sympathy for fat people. Losing weight is incredibly easy. My weight loss isn't even significant compared to what some people are able to accomplish, but its been easy as hell. A bit of research to understand how food works, a few hours of designing a diet, and poof! Magic? No, common sense.

I've talked to some people and they mention they could never diet because they couldn't give up the sweets. In my opinion, if you don't have the willpower to give up a bit of sugar to lose weight, then you don't really care about losing weight, and you don't deserve to lose it.

 

[JEBWrench]

It's perfectly okay to discriminate against fat people such as myself. It's my fault.

I accept being judged for my own actions.

 

[him over there]

I honestly do not care what anyone says, fat people while causing multiple problems for our society (especially Australia and the US), they shouldn't be discriminated against. As much as I hate the amount of money spent upgrading facilities to accommodate fat people, I think discrimination is a step backwards in terms of where the world is going. While this is a self imposed problem and I do not feel sympathy for these people, I don't think going out and abusing them is really the right idea. OT, I do think that a large percentage of people are discriminant against fatty's, but in saying that I can understand where they come from, but would rather they didn't.

So you agree that you can still discriminate against something that isn't absolutely innate or concrete about you (which I agree with by the way)? I totally understand where you're coming from and I don't understand how people simply say that the problem being self inflicted makes it okay to abuse people. It's like saying that I accidentally cut my hand off because I got distracted and it's okay to mock and verbally harass me for it because I wasn't paying attention. Or like how people say it isn't discrimination regarding religion because you can pick it. Yeah it isn't like it's a heavily culture based belief system that influences many aspects of your life, if people hassle you for it just change it! I know I'm kind of stretching and obesity can be countered with simple willpower and education but many people simply don't have that. This is met with "you're not motivated, that's your problem get motivated" but it isn't like you can just get willpower or motivation out of thin air, that's a whole new problem all together. For many people "excuses" is actually is actually a vicious cycle that they need support, not stigma to break.

Whatever I'm rambling.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Yeah, people love to hate fat people, but I swear it's not as much as fat people love to hate fat people. It's like if a skinny person makes a fat joke, a fat person will get offended because they didn't make it fast enough themselves. And this is coming from a thin guy with very low self esteem. I used to think the anti-fat thing was overblown, but fat people happen to get (privately) made fun of the most at my workplace and I think it's because I work with a couple fitness-obsessed individuals. They actually get mad because fat people aren't trying to work out. I don't understand it. I really don't like to hear fat people constantly make excuses for their weight, especially when no one asked. That does get annoying.

Personally, I don't think I've ever specifically disliked someone because they were fat. I've avoided smelly people (which can be related), but having worked with more fat people, I've learned that they don't necessarily have to be stinky if they don't want to be. Also with the exception of one other person, by entire extended family is fairly rotund, so I'd say obesity is likely in my future.

 

[Byzantinium]

If being a land whale was solely or even mostly caused by genetics, land whales would be evenly spread across the entire population of the Earth.

They aren't.

Discriminate away. And I say this as a fatty who's dropped two jean sizes because I stopped shoveling food into my piehole.

 

[Byzantinium]

Edit: Double.

 

[Farseer Lolotea]

I know of at least two families that can eat like pigs, smoke and don't exercise, but everyone is slim as hell.

If Bell's Curve is real (and usually is), the opposite is true for people with stunted or extremely slow metabolism that require few times more exercise to even stay at same weight, much less lose it.

Fun fact: You know the typical weight-loss regimen? If someone within the socially-acceptable weight limits adopts such habits, that's usually considered symptomatic of body dysphoria, an eating disorder, or both.

Know what I'm saying?

 

[tobi the good boy]

Honestly, people should discriminate against fat people. I used to be really fat, and I did something about it,and I should keep going, so I don't die when I'm 40. If there wasn't any stigma, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

I would rather be picked on than dead, or immobile.

See that doesn't really work, I used to frequent my local gym (Exams stopping me right now I'll be back in once they're over) and often I would see large people come in and try to get their act together but they would have to deal with so many snide remarks from meat heads and (for the lack of a better term) Bitches that they end up leaving because the environment was so hostile. Heck I used to think they just left because they gave up putting in the work but I've seen fully grown men in tears because of the shit they have to put up with.

 

[TheSuperiorXemnas]

Save the whales, harpoon a fat chick

[sub]Can't remember where I heard that line but it's freakin' terrible [/sub]

Being fat is associated with greed and/or a lack of self control/discipline.

Besides, there's a difference between being a bit chubby, and being obese.

Hey! It can also mean just a Love for extremely tasty Foods (Oh, Sea-Salt Ice Cream, How I love thee)