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Westaway

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Signa said:
1> Get soul trap, drain health, weakness to magicka spells
2> Get Asura's Star
3> Join Mage's guild to access enchanting
4> Enchant dagger with Drain 100HP for 1 second, Soul Trap 1 Second, Weakness to Magicka 100% for 1 second

Win game.

I'm sure a lot of that doesn't make sense at first glance, but all it takes is just hunting for those few spells (faqs and wikis will help you) and a common iron dagger to win the game. Every strike you land on an enemy momentarily reduces his HP, but every strike after (if within 1 second) reduces it by 2x the last strike. First it's -200HP, then -400, then -800, -1600.... it doesn't take much to kill the strongest enemies in the game. And the soul trap effect will allow you to keep this going for every non-human/humanlike demon you kill.
One problem: I'm not magic oriented at all.
 

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Enemies do have health bars, you don't gain exp. because that's the way TES has always been, idk why, ask Todd Howard, and it's hard because it's a bit unbalanced before you hit level 8-ish. It's an older style of game so the difficulty is pretty high, Morrowind, it's predecessor is even harder.
 

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To the person who mentioned poisons: I bought the game on release, played it through half-way (gave up in frustration with the levelled enemies and loot), then bought it again on Xbox (lost the disc for pc) and completed it.
Yet it was only this week on a third playthrough, on PC again,that I even discovered poisons, and even THAT was by accident (made one - thinking it would just hurt me when I drank it - purely to help with levelling alchemy)

To the OP: I really would make a new character and start again, after thinking about what skills you have been using the most and selecting those as your major ones, either by creating a custom class or by picking a premade that uses most if not all of the ones you have been using.
If you go the custom class route, though, I personally would not select Alchemy as a major skill, because you might not be able to find enough ingredients that make it really viable in combat, but YOU will find a bunch of food and make fatigue potions a lot, then end up being a high level character with weak combat skills, and you WILL get destroyed.
I've also decided to make a new magic only char. Thanks for the tip.
 

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So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?
played it too could not stand it i like fallout better but i will give skyrim a try
 

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Timedraven 117 said:
Sup I said:
So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?
played it too could not stand it i like fallout better but i will give skyrim a try
I also like Fallout, so I just presumed I'd like Oblivion. So far my main gripe is the auto scailing enemies, and what seems to be a empty world.
 

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I'm with OP on this. I was level 5 when I happened upon the first oblivion gate and the game was impossibly difficult then, apparently because I didn't min/max my skills. I also don't feel I should have to crank down the default difficulty setting of the game to make it enjoyable.
 

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I've also decided to make a new magic only char. Thanks for the tip.
While mages are my favorite class to play, I HIGHLY recommend you start off with a melee character. Mages are great and all but they cannot take much of a hit until later on when you start being able to enchant clothing with powerful shielding spells. A melee-focused character is the easiest entry point into the game world, allowing you to get used to how the world works with a simple character before you start trying the more interesting, and more difficult, playstyles.
 

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Why do people like this game?
2 tips for ya:

1. Turn difficulty down. Levelling in Oblivion is notoriously broken.

2. Don't just follow the main story - wander off into the middle of nowhere and see what you find, or talk to people in the towns for side quests. That's where the real rewarding stuff in Oblivion happens.
 

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Duskflamer said:
Sup I said:
I've also decided to make a new magic only char. Thanks for the tip.
While mages are my favorite class to play, I HIGHLY recommend you start off with a melee character. Mages are great and all but they cannot take much of a hit until later on when you start being able to enchant clothing with powerful shielding spells. A melee-focused character is the easiest entry point into the game world, allowing you to get used to how the world works with a simple character before you start trying the more interesting, and more difficult, playstyles.
I can't seem to gripe melee though. I allways get knoked back and getting up close and personal with some of dem monstas creeps me out. Also, you can summon stuff. I NEED some sort of follower/friend with me in this kind of game.
 

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Sup I said:
Timedraven 117 said:
Sup I said:
So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?
played it too could not stand it i like fallout better but i will give skyrim a try
I also like Fallout, so I just presumed I'd like Oblivion. So far my main gripe is the auto scailing enemies, and what seems to be a empty world.
i find it boring annoying and hard to level because it doesent even explain how to
 

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Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?
If you grab the Fighter's Stronghold [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fighter%27s_Stronghold] DLC, you're a simple fight (with allied NPCs) away from having some knights to follow you around, though you can only ever have 1 follower at once.
 

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I can't seem to gripe melee though. I allways get knoked back and getting up close and personal with some of dem monstas creeps me out. Also, you can summon stuff. I NEED some sort of follower/friend with me in this kind of game.
You're getting knocked back because you're attacking when they're blocking, turn the tables on them and hold down the block button, wait for their attack to bounce off your shield/weapon, then attack while they're staggered.

Though if you're so inclined, you could make a custom class that's mostly melee focused, but includes Conjuration magic. If you take Conjuration as a class skill then Summon Skeleton will be instantly added to your spell list, and you can get better summons later on, and as a mage I can vouche for how useful it is to have an extra blade on hand.
 

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Duskflamer said:
Sup I said:
I can't seem to gripe melee though. I allways get knoked back and getting up close and personal with some of dem monstas creeps me out. Also, you can summon stuff. I NEED some sort of follower/friend with me in this kind of game.
You're getting knocked back because you're attacking when they're blocking, turn the tables on them and hold down the block button, wait for their attack to bounce off your shield/weapon, then attack while they're staggered.

Though if you're so inclined, you could make a custom class that's mostly melee focused, but includes Conjuration magic. If you take Conjuration as a class skill then Summon Skeleton will be instantly added to your spell list, and you can get better summons later on, and as a mage I can vouche for how useful it is to have an extra blade on hand.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
 

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Timedraven 117 said:
i find it boring annoying and hard to level because it doesent even explain how to
Even though I only just started replaying the game, I have played the intro so many times now that I honestly cannot remember how well done it is in terms of this.
Lucky for you that there is this thing called the Internet eh?
Seriously though, follow the same advice as the OP and give the game another try. Or, if you, unlike Will, are playing on PC, you could try that XP mod. Never used it myself, or knew it existed, but it might help you out.
Will: I won't tell you what class to play, but if you do want to play a mage, you could focus on Conjuration, that would allow you to summon critters AND armour/weapons. Not sure how easy those types of spells are to find, though.
Mind you, there really isn't anything to stop you skipping the main quest for now, heading to the nearest town, and getting started on the Mages Guild quests. That is where you will find people selling spells, and once you get into the University, will let you make your own spells.
You will also want to level Mysticism (I think?) so that you can get some decent soul catching going on, which is another fairly complex aspect of the game, in that you have to (successfully!) cast Soul Trap on a creature, have that spell active on the creature as it dies, and have an empty Soul Gem capable of storing that creatures soul. The filled gems are used to create and recharge enchanted items.
 

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Inithra said:
Timedraven 117 said:
i find it boring annoying and hard to level because it doesent even explain how to
Even though I only just started replaying the game, I have played the intro so many times now that I honestly cannot remember how well done it is in terms of this.
Lucky for you that there is this thing called the Internet eh?
Seriously though, follow the same advice as the OP and give the game another try. Or, if you, unlike Will, are playing on PC, you could try that XP mod. Never used it myself, or knew it existed, but it might help you out.
Will: I won't tell you what class to play, but if you do want to play a mage, you could focus on Conjuration, that would allow you to summon critters AND armour/weapons. Not sure how easy those types of spells are to find, though.
Mind you, there really isn't anything to stop you skipping the main quest for now, heading to the nearest town, and getting started on the Mages Guild quests. That is where you will find people selling spells, and once you get into the University, will let you make your own spells.
You will also want to level Mysticism (I think?) so that you can get some decent soul catching going on, which is another fairly complex aspect of the game, in that you have to (successfully!) cast Soul Trap on a creature, have that spell active on the creature as it dies, and have an empty Soul Gem capable of storing that creatures soul. The filled gems are used to create and recharge enchanted items.
well i probably will you know just dont know when. any way heres to hope of a new fallout game and skyrim
 

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Timedraven 117 said:
Inithra said:
Timedraven 117 said:
i find it boring annoying and hard to level because it doesent even explain how to
Even though I only just started replaying the game, I have played the intro so many times now that I honestly cannot remember how well done it is in terms of this.
Lucky for you that there is this thing called the Internet eh?
Seriously though, follow the same advice as the OP and give the game another try. Or, if you, unlike Will, are playing on PC, you could try that XP mod. Never used it myself, or knew it existed, but it might help you out.
Will: I won't tell you what class to play, but if you do want to play a mage, you could focus on Conjuration, that would allow you to summon critters AND armour/weapons. Not sure how easy those types of spells are to find, though.
Mind you, there really isn't anything to stop you skipping the main quest for now, heading to the nearest town, and getting started on the Mages Guild quests. That is where you will find people selling spells, and once you get into the University, will let you make your own spells.
You will also want to level Mysticism (I think?) so that you can get some decent soul catching going on, which is another fairly complex aspect of the game, in that you have to (successfully!) cast Soul Trap on a creature, have that spell active on the creature as it dies, and have an empty Soul Gem capable of storing that creatures soul. The filled gems are used to create and recharge enchanted items.
well i probably will you know just dont know when. any way heres to hope of a new fallout game and skyrim
I think I heard somewhere that Beth is working on Fallout 4, although I doubt they have much more then the location and the factions. Presuming the runmor was real in the first place.
 

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sethzard said:
Sup I said:
So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Turn down the difficulty, the game can be a bit unbalanced so just turn it down, it will make it more enjoyable.
Also you do get experience from a lot of things, including killing things, that's as long as the skill for whatever weapon you're using is a major skill of yours.
yeah, pretty much this man.

My motto is and has always been, "Never sacrifice fun for anything."
Fun will always win for me. I don't care is I look like a pussy, turning down the difficulty on the 5th mission of Black Ops, I would rather have fun than beat something that pisses me right off.