Ocean Marketing vs. Penny Arcade

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People are getting bleeding heart over this guy? It's not like the internet is firebombing his house. Soon, the attention will slide to the next big stupid thing and good ol' Paul can get back to his bullying and wife-beating shenanigans undisturbed.

His life isn't ruined, but his silly little business certainly is.

Seriously, this meatsack is obviously a dumb, antisocial, narcistic piece of shit. I have no sympathy for people like him. The cosmos should get medieval on his ass. I'm with Mike on this one.
 
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wildeep said:
This whole thing is like a reversed version of "Its a wonderful life".

Up to this point, its pretty obvious that Paul Christoforo has been hopping through life without much care for anyone else around him.

Life has let him be as mean as he wanted to be, and ultimately to victimize weaker people around him. Its apparent in the way he presents himself privately and professionally. Everything the internet has discovered about Paul illustrates the man that he is...or isn't, as you might analyze.

Paul just got the biggest wake up call of his life. The rest of us got this message in our teens. Behaving in fucked up ways and doing fucked up things ultimately bears fucked up consequences. Rather than learn this, accept it, and move on to a productive and healthy adulthood - Paul skipped the lesson. That didnt make the lesson any less true though.

So now, Paul is getting that lesson..but instead of learning it somewhat gently over the course of a decade of teenage mistakes, its all been saved up for this moment..to be delivered in one huge dose.

Is it the business of the internet to serve this dose? I don't know. But its happening.

Its a philosophical point - When do we have to answer for the evils that we do? We've all done something. Some of us have done lots. When is that bill due?

Paul's bill came due on Dec 16th 2011.
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And that's the whole point of this. I prefer to put it a far more crass way and simply say that some people a dicks till somebody beats the stupid out of them. The people who are pitying this guy seem to neglect the fact that this is the first time a person complaining about the guy's behavior has resulted in any kind of outrage. I've read the records of two other people who've had run ins with Ocean Marketting just from this thread.

One is a slip, two is a coincidence, three is a pattern. And let's not forget, not everyone is willing to throw out their grievances in lengthy detail to the entirety of the internet. How many other people had issues with him that haven't spoke a word about it other than saying 'yeah, there was this total dick I had to deal with while I was trying to get my controller'? How many simply brushed it off and decided that waiting would be the best option? I don't know, I don't think anyone does. The more you read, the more that comes up, the more you find that this guy is one of those people who've gone through life without facing any opposition, without facing anything to make them back down...hell, without facing anything that makes them truly empathize with others.

You go through life and eventually you'll run into someone who won't back down, who won't roll over and let you be a jerk. The consequence of that in real life is a shove or a punch, and the realization that you are never the biggest fish in the pond. Paul, Paul has the entire feel of someone who's never faced that, from the bearing of his other online personas to the way he treats others, to the way he is willing to so easily bandy about names of others, even impersonate others...he has no sense of respect, no sense of empathy for the way he treats other people, he doesn't see them as being worthy of the simplest of respect.

Perhaps I'm being very analytical, perhaps I'm merely acting the part of an internet therapist, but tell me, what would people call someone who treats -everyone- else as merely pawns, things to be used for a goal? He drops the names of major members of the industry, belittles others he considers less powerful, when faced with opposition, dismisses it. When he is faced with an unassailable obstacle he uses lies and masquerades as someone else. He can't associate anything except in the context of how it affects him, how it impacts him.
 
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xXxJessicaxXx said:
If anything it shows PR firms that they better be careful how they treat customers because these days word of mouth is a damn sight quicker.
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More that you don't cross Penny Arcade. This guy had screwed over people before and it was NEVER a big deal previously.
 
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evilneko said:
This screencap shows how much he deserved all this...



Really?

REALLY?

http://twitter.com/#!/oceanstretagy/status/151810591013617664

Yeah. I'm surprised he didn't delete it...
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Wow. Dem's not just fightin' words, dem's da kind of words dat get youse in trouble w/da copz.

Seriously, even if it's just idle talk on Twitter. That's the kind of thing that you just don't say, not only if you want to remain in business but if you don't want police knocking on your door in an hour.
 
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With the exception of whatever is happening to his wife and child(if it's actually true, mind you), I'm glad this is happening. This wasn't a case of someone making a mistake and popping off. He has a consistent pattern of being a complete asswipe, criminally so in more than one case, and should be treated as such. Taking pity on him and chewing everyone else out is fucking ridiculous. Thank god most people understand this and reserve their sympathy for people that actually deserve it.
 
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The Amazon-bombs are pretty awesome.
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Honestly that is the worst thing about all of this. See this guy runs a marketing firm, his company does not actually make the controller. But the company who hired him is getting some of the hate for him being bad at his job. And they do not deserve that. Will they use a different firm from now on? No doubt. But they do not deserve to lose sales because this guy was an ass.
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The company that makes the controller made a calculated risk in hiring this guy, they deserve everything they get. Spend peanuts, get monkeys.
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No, it was not a calculated risk. That implies there was a good chance (even 1% is good in this instance) of something bad happening. They hired a "Professional" Firm to do marketing for them. Now the original manufacturer has to go to court and sue this PR firm. Much time trouble and expense.
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It was totally a calculated risk, one that should have been highlighted by the fact that their other PR firm dropped them after REPEATEDLY COMPLAINING TO THEIR CLIENT THAT CHRISTOFORONO WAS COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL.
 
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michiehoward said:
Wowza!

That is some serious shit! Total bullshit, yet serous at the same time.

"I do run Pax, but I also run a website called penny arcade. It?s kinda popular."

LMFAO

and to everyone saying this customer service guy doesn't deserve to have his life ruined

He brought this on himself by:

A: Running he mouth, like he's a tough guy.

B: When proven that he was actually a little weakling, he ran his mouth off to the site owner and the person who runs PAX

C: Realizing what a moron on he was being, he backed out. When he should have done that in the first place.
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Please read what you wrote again. He deserves to have his "life ruined" for that? Youve NEVER run your mouth ever? Youve never got mad and said stupid shit? Youve never had to apoligise? If the answer to any of these is no go ruin your own life. Its only fair. Or provide me with personal details so i can fairly ruin your life please. Id like telephone numbers, emails and addresses please. Can you post them? Thanks in advance, im sure B will happily ruin your life for you. Justice can be restored! It will also help if you describe the time you once accidently were a douche. That would be great.

This guy was an asshole. He deserves to be fired. But this is too far. We have become the bullies. Christ people can be dicks, but this is far worse than what he did. People trying to ruin him should be ashamed. Ashamed. You are worse than him by a fair margin. What he did was heat of the moment assholery. What you are doing is sadistic and unneccessary. The inernet and nerds in general are bad at this, me included. We pounce on a single person and RUIN them totally out of proprortion. Its sick. Its wrong, and its fucking disgustingly hypocritical. You just want petty revenge because assholes like this guy have been dicks to you (not you mr quotee just everyone) and this is NOT the way to maturely deal with it.

Grow up internet. Logde complaints to the company. Dont ruin his life. Dont ruin the product. How OLD are you people? Christ. Im fucking sickened by this. Sickened. Everyone trying to ruin him should be ashamed. He deserves to lose his job as hes evidently crap at it. But he doesnt deserve other shit. Nor does the company.


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@vmearl [Because] he knows how many fans PA has and he knows how they will react when properly motivated."

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RT @aegies we should definitely try to ruin someone's life because of bad customer service. totally."

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@vmearl So do I, but it's the company's job to discipline him, not the internet's."

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@devilherdue Geeks have a real issue with bullying and being bullies. It's a shame we aren't more aware of how we interact with others."
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this man deserves everything that comes to him as it has always been my beleif stupid should hurt or at least have consequences. Just so you know this man can a should be tried and sent to jail for what hes done.
 
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Haha, I don't know anything about Ocean but I've heard of Penny Arcade. What a tool.
 
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If he were truly apologetic, I'd have some sympathy for Paul. If Paul had a history of this and he was just recently brought on as PR/Marketting (sic), then I'd have sympathy for N-Controller. Seeing as how he's been with them for over 8 months, I don't have sympathy for either and the more I think about it the more it really annoys me that N-Controller keeps trying to say "It isn't our fault."

Shipping/Manufacturing failures are N-Controller's problem, and that alone would be enough for me to not order them. Sure they might be neat, but if supply is that scarce, I personally could go without. In the end that means those that really want to keep putting up with these delays or literally can't play without that assistance will get one before I do, and that's okay.

Paul and Ocean Marketting happens to be the worst in marketting, but N-Controller doesn't seem to be a great company that can keep it's commitments either.
 
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Seriously I think people need to direct their anger towards just him not the actual product. He didn't invent it and bombing the actual product isn't hurting him it's hurting the folks who came up with the product...for disabled gamers.

I can only assume hackers are working as we speak to ruin the guy's life even further. Then again one of the few things that gets under my skin is shitty customer service. When I sell and buy stuff on ebay and half.com I have a simple motto don't ***k with my money and don't waste my time. In turn I do my damndest to do the same. He played around with peoples money and wasted their time so he deserves the internet's rage.

But seriously threatening his wife and child is a bit much, though I did laugh because I recalled the episode of South Park where Cartman ruins a kids life because he tricked him out of his money.
 
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But seriously threatening his wife and child is a bit much, though I did laugh because I recalled the episode of South Park where Cartman ruins a kids life because he tricked him out of his money.
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I'm not particularly at the ready to believe that people are targeting his wife and kid to the extreme he's trying to pull. Yes there's probably a poke here and there, but others have observed that he seemed quick to use them to shield himself.
 
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http://www.natesnetwork.com/Poor-customer-service

He's done this shit before, there's just nothing redeemable about his behavior. And his kid has bigger problems than some collateral internet hate - he's going to be raised by fucking Brucie from GTA 4.
 
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ecoho said:
this man deserves everything that comes to him as it has always been my beleif stupid should hurt or at least have consequences. Just so you know this man can a should be tried and sent to jail for what hes done.
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For bad PR? Maybe hes done other things. But as bystanders on the internet it is not our place to punish someone for illegal activities. It is the courts and the llegal system. As of now he will be punished in two ways, one by us vigilante justice, and one by the courts. This isnt right, it isnt our place to dole out punishment.

Stupid should hurt. He was fired. He has terrible terrible reputation. But to ruin his life is just OTT. Have you EVER run your mouth? Ever? You have, if you say no youre a liar. Youve said stupid shit. And although it damaged your reputation you most certainly didnt expect everyone who tangentally heard about the issue to go and "ruin your life".

He deserves some of whats coming to him, the proper llegal punishment. But not random internet attack. Thats just pointless.

evilneko said:
This screencap shows how much he deserved all this...



Really?

REALLY?

http://twitter.com/#!/oceanstretagy/status/151810591013617664

Yeah. I'm surprised he didn't delete it...
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This is slander. Ocean stretagy isnt him. Its someone pretending to be him and saying things to make him look bad. People IN THIS THREAD believe it. This is illegal. This is sick. Look at the lengths people are going to increminate him, even pretending to say illegal things to rile up more hatred. Doesnt that strike you as fucked up?
 
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I'm pretty surprised that he continues to lie on the msnbc interview about 'things that Mike said' that anyone who actually read the transcript could tell was a lie.

Saying that mike came at him aggressively.. complete lie.

http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/28/9770514-chastened-gaming-rep-responds-to-internet-infamy
 
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