ODST's=Spartans ?

[Zersy]

Now i'm pretty sure most of you have seen Halo:ODST gameplay so no need for a intro. On to the Discussion.

I can't help but shake that the ODST soldiers are not like what we expect, i'll admit that they are highly trained and experianced war vets and that from what we've seen the game has been played on easy yet still how can a ODST be strong enough to beat down a brute within 2 or 3 melee attacks or how can one use a gravity hammer or even carry around turrents , there not one many army's like Master Chief who is 8 foot tall and has a huge amount of enhancements. the only thing that seems to match the ODST's feel is that their is fall damage. I'm not saying that ODST is gonna be a bad game because there more powered then we expect (ODST will be a great Halo game that we will all enjoy) i'm only saying that don't you think that ODST soldiers should be weaker and rely on stealth, squad work and ambushing rather then confront the enemy head on.

Just my opinion. Whats yours ?

 

[Ninja_X]

That would be a change wouldn't it?

Acctualy seeing some original gameplay from halo at all might make it more interesting.

 

[Zersy]

That would be a change wouldn't it?

Acctualy seeing some original gameplay from halo at all might make it more interesting.

I like the Blandness of Halo it just has this flow and feel that can make it fun. Although i do think that games should focus on originality.

 

[DrunkWithPower]

I agree with you, being overpowered should be left to the chief. If the ODSTs are "cut from the same mold" as Master Chief then that takes away what make MC less special.

 

[Ninja_X]

That would be a change wouldn't it?

Acctualy seeing some original gameplay from halo at all might make it more interesting.

I like the Blandness of Halo it just has this flow and feel that can make it fun. Although i do think that games should focus on originality.

I can kinda see what you are saying.

I just hate games that make you a practically invincible super space marine wearing enough power armor to build a tank.

Master Chief is overpowered,

 

[Kruxxor]

I really don't care for ODST, looking at it makes me think Halo 3, it looks as though nothing has changed (although hopefully The Flood aren't in this one)

It's as if they've just released Halo 3 again but slapped a different name on it.

I wonder if Halo Reach will be like this too?

 

[Kermi]

So many assumptions. ODSTs can haul around a turret so automatically that means they're equal to Spartans in strength?
Maybe we should all wait two more weeks and play it before we start commenting on the gameplay.

 

[Hexenwolf]

So many assumptions. ODSTs can haul around a turret so automatically that means they're equal to Spartans in strength?
Maybe we should all wait two more weeks and play it before we start commenting on the gameplay.

Uh, yea actually. The ODSTs are supposed to be normal human. Highly trained, with battle armor and advanced weapons perhaps, but ultimately just humans. Now you go and show me someone that can carry and effectively use a mounted turret like that.

And for the record, I think adding stealth elements would be a terrible idea. Just because they're not Master Chief doesn't mean they shouldn't fight head on, after all, ODST stands for Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Absolutely nothing about that phrase implies any level of stealth.

 

[Megacherv]

That would be a change wouldn't it?

Acctualy seeing some original gameplay from halo at all might make it more interesting.

Apparently it's gonna be more strategic, possibly a bit like Rainbow Six, but that would require thought. Halo would be more enjoyable from a regular soldier's point of view, with more strategy involved, a bit less linear perhaps. that would be more enjoyable.

 

[Kermi]

Uh, yea actually. The ODSTs are supposed to be normal human. Highly trained, with battle armor and advanced weapons perhaps, but ultimately just humans. Now you go and show me someone that can carry and effectively use a mounted turret like that.

A mounted turret in Halo 3 is basically your typical vehicle-mounted minigun, which is possible to use unmounted (though impractical). Maybe Scrawny Jimmy Average couldn't haul one around, but a marine who's undergone weight and fitness training, yes, yes he could. Stop nitpicking.

And for the record, I think adding stealth elements would be a terrible idea. Just because they're not Master Chief doesn't mean they shouldn't fight head on, after all, ODST stands for Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Absolutely nothing about that phrase implies any level of stealth.

So you've played the game and drawn these conclusions reasonably based on first-hand evidence? Sweet!

From what I've seen, there's plenty of head-on action. I haven't seen ODST described as a stealth shooter except by people on the internet, who know approximately as much as I do - they're just more willing to draw conclusions that may or may not be accurate. The difference between ODST and regular Halo is that you can't just duck behind a corner and wait for your shields and health to regenerate. You need to consider each situation before leaping in, deciding where and how to strike rather than charging in.

 

[Hexenwolf]

Uh, yea actually. The ODSTs are supposed to be normal human. Highly trained, with battle armor and advanced weapons perhaps, but ultimately just humans. Now you go and show me someone that can carry and effectively use a mounted turret like that.

A mounted turret in Halo 3 is basically your typical vehicle-mounted minigun, which is possible to use unmounted (though impractical). Maybe Scrawny Jimmy Average couldn't haul one around, but a marine who's undergone weight and fitness training, yes, yes he could. Stop nitpicking.

And for the record, I think adding stealth elements would be a terrible idea. Just because they're not Master Chief doesn't mean they shouldn't fight head on, after all, ODST stands for Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Absolutely nothing about that phrase implies any level of stealth.

So you've played the game and drawn these conclusions reasonably based on first-hand evidence? Sweet!

From what I've seen, there's plenty of head-on action. I haven't seen ODST described as a stealth shooter except by people on the internet, who know approximately as much as I do - they're just more willing to draw conclusions that may or may not be accurate. The difference between ODST and regular Halo is that you can't just duck behind a corner and wait for your shields and health to regenerate. You need to consider each situation before leaping in, deciding where and how to strike rather than charging in.

I think you misunderstood me, I have nothing against the game, in fact I have it pre-ordered.

And yes, it may be "nit-picking" in your opinion, but you tell me the last time a marine actually did that. There's a difference between being able to carry a weight and being able to use a heavy, oversized weapon like that. Unless you're ridiculously strong, you wouldn't be able to carry around and use a turret like that as effectively as a light machine gun or even a normal assault rifle (depending on the situation). However, this complaint is entirely from a lore standpoint, that being that the ODSTs are not superhumanly strong like Spartans, however, if it makes the game more fun, then I don't care. After all, the whole point of the game is to have fun.

In regards to the stealth talk, I was simply replying to the opening posts final suggestion.

 

[Vrex360]

I would like to see it focus on stealth tactics and squad manuevers and I am a little dissapointed to see that it isn't quite going to be like that. It should really feel like something completely different to playing as the Masterchief.

Personally I still want to see a game where you play as the Arbiter and link the ties between Halo 2 and 3 through his perspective.

 

[Zersy]

Personally I still want to see a game where you play as the Arbiter and link the ties between Halo 2 and 3 through his perspective.

Your Avatat reflects this perfectly

 

[Zersy]

Oh and one quick side note. the gun the ODST uses is the SMG with many enhancements and add on's like the SURPRESSER and from what i've seen and read of preveiws "The gun feels alot more powerful and fires LOUDER"

Ay ?? A surpressed gun is louder then a non surpressed ?

(Correct me if i'm wrong)

 

[The_Ghost_Ninja]

No That's a loudener, I saw one at a Gun store, There was another Attachment for Police helicopters.

 

[Snowalker]

So many assumptions. ODSTs can haul around a turret so automatically that means they're equal to Spartans in strength?
Maybe we should all wait two more weeks and play it before we start commenting on the gameplay.

Uh, yea actually. The ODSTs are supposed to be normal human. Highly trained, with battle armor and advanced weapons perhaps, but ultimately just humans. Now you go and show me someone that can carry and effectively use a mounted turret like that.

And for the record, I think adding stealth elements would be a terrible idea. Just because they're not Master Chief doesn't mean they shouldn't fight head on, after all, ODST stands for Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Absolutely nothing about that phrase implies any level of stealth.

Yeah, you know, besides the fact that ODST's in the cannon were always intended to recon groups.. Theres not one stealthy thing about that at all. I tell you what, this recruit should be able to go in there guns a blazing all by himself and take down the covenant.. I mean it only makes since..

[/sarcasm]

 

[TheFacelessOne]

I'm just glad I'm not a Spartan anymore. That was getting boring.

 

[UberMore]

That would be a change wouldn't it?

Acctualy seeing some original gameplay from halo at all might make it more interesting.

I like the Blandness of Halo it just has this flow and feel that can make it fun. Although i do think that games should focus on originality.

I can kinda see what you are saying.

I just hate games that make you a practically invincible super space marine wearing enough power armor to build a tank.

Master Chief is overpowered,

See, in the games, the Chief is overpowered. If he hadn't been a one-man army, the game wouldn't've sold so well.

However, in the books, the Chief isn't the god the games make him out to be: he's more stealthy and careful and is WAY less powerful then an Elite/Brute etc.
THIS is how the ODST troops should be.

 

[Hazy]

No That's a loudener, I saw one at a Gun store, There was another Attachment for Police helicopters.

I spy a Simpson's reference