ODST's=Spartans ?

[Trivun]

Now i'm pretty sure most of you have seen Halo:ODST gameplay so no need for a intro. On to the Discussion.

I can't help but shake that the ODST soldiers are not like what we expect, i'll admit that they are highly trained and experianced war vets and that from what we've seen the game has been played on easy yet still how can a ODST be strong enough to beat down a brute within 2 or 3 melee attacks or how can one use a gravity hammer or even carry around turrents , there not one many army's like Master Chief who is 8 foot tall and has a huge amount of enhancements. the only thing that seems to match the ODST's feel is that their is fall damage. I'm not saying that ODST is gonna be a bad game because there more powered then we expect (ODST will be a great Halo game that we will all enjoy) i'm only saying that don't you think that ODST soldiers should be weaker and rely on stealth, squad work and ambushing rather then confront the enemy head on.

Just my opinion. Whats yours ?

The whole point of the new game is that we see the combat from a new aspect, and the game does revolve more around stealth rather than head on attacks. That said, stealth is often a more useful element anyway in the original trilogy, especially on Hardcore mode. But I digress. Besides, according to the related Halo media, the ODST's will still have the strength to carry stolen Gravity Hammers around and so on, because their power armour is (according to the novel The Fall Of Reach) simply a very early version of MJOLNIR armour, so although they're nowhere near the strength and speed and so on of Spartans, they still have better skills and attributes than your average UNSC Marine. So it isn't as bad as you think. They still maintain all the stealth aspects and so on because I can't see a single ODST being able to take down a squad of Jiralhanae (Brutes) without either a lot of backup or a rocket launcher, or maybe a sniper rifle. One, maybe, head-to-head, but not a whole squad. But rest assured, all this is handled correctly in the game, according to the press releases from Bungie and Microsoft.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

It's been said before, toting around a machine gun is realistic enough as is using a Gravity Hammer. Maybe the ODSTs are doing it a little better than they should be able to but as far as I'm concerned that's just gameplay, and gameplay is often unrealistic.

I just hate games that make you a practically invincible super space marine wearing enough power armor to build a tank.

Spartans barely wear enough power armor to build a suit of power armor

Spoiler: see?

Strip that whole thing for parts and you might have enough metal for a moped.

And saying "practically invincible" is about as much an exaggeration as your quarter-ton tank.

Oh and one quick side note. the gun the ODST uses is the SMG with many enhancements and add on's like the SURPRESSER and from what i've seen and read of preveiws "The gun feels alot more powerful and fires LOUDER"

I've never seen anyone say it's louder, and I've read a lot of previews. From what I've seen it's quieter, maybe the preview person never fired a Halo 3 SMG with his TV loud enough?

 

[maddawg IAJI]

If an ODST can use a Spartan Laser then I'm pretty sure they can deal with the recoil from the Gravity Hammer.

It dosen't take much to rip those turrets off, If the stand that it's on falls down the damn thing will break on it's own. As for the ability to carry it, They proably added those additions to your strength to Balance Firefight out. I wouldn't want to have to fight a bunch of hunters if I couldn't use a Turret.

 

[quack35]

Maybe you'll have to use stealth because you can't absorb very many bullets.

They're going back to the Halo 1 health system.

 

[MercurySteam]

If ODST can bring some new things to the franchise I'm not complaining.

 

[The_Ghost_Ninja]

No That's a loudener, I saw one at a Gun store, There was another Attachment for Police helicopters.

I spy a Simpson's reference

Not for long if he gets the Loudener.

Oh thanks for noticing (sp?) Well anyways, I just loved Halo 1, For it's Health system And Potent Weaponry, viva Classico! lol

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I think everyone is forgetting that Halo 3 begins with Master Chief plummeting from space into the surface of a planet and survives perfectly. In any case, you're going to play as someone weaker than Master Chief.

 

[Sixties Spidey]

I think everyone is forgetting that Halo 3 begins with Master Chief plummeting from space into the surface of a planet and survives perfectly.

Yeah I actually laughed my ass off when that happened. I was like, "WOW! What the fuck is your armor made out of to protect you from a fall like that when it can't protect you worth a shit against other, less dangerous falls in Halo 2?"

 

[Sixties Spidey]

Halo 1 had a more classic edge to the series that makes it seem well, harder than the last two sequels in the trilogy. Going back to the classic formula would work wonders. If everyone is willing to adapt to the change. Hell, if it worked for Halo Wars it can work here, right?

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I think everyone is forgetting that Halo 3 begins with Master Chief plummeting from space into the surface of a planet and survives perfectly.

Yeah I actually laughed my ass off when that happened. I was like, "WOW! What the fuck is your armor made out of to protect you from a fall like that when it can't protect you worth a shit against other, less dangerous falls in Halo 2?"

Exactly Especially when they say 'The gel layer absorbed most of the crash.' How fucking strong is this gel?!

 

[TheLefty]

Just because they're not Master Chief doesn't mean they shouldn't fight head on, after all, ODST stands for Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Absolutely nothing about that phrase implies any level of stealth.

It's something about the background canon. I'm a huge halo fan and don't read the books or anything but supposedly the point of the "dropping" if so they can get behind enemy lines and take them out from within. That's what I read on the Halo wiki.

 

[Sixties Spidey]

I think everyone is forgetting that Halo 3 begins with Master Chief plummeting from space into the surface of a planet and survives perfectly.

Yeah I actually laughed my ass off when that happened. I was like, "WOW! What the fuck is your armor made out of to protect you from a fall like that when it can't protect you worth a shit against other, less dangerous falls in Halo 2?"

Exactly Especially when they say 'The gel layer absorbed most of the crash.' How fucking strong is this gel?!

About as strong as what some kid uses to gel his hair back (read: Piss weak), yet strong enough TO SUSTAIN FALLING FROM FUCKING SPACE!

Yeaah.. Realism isn't really one of Halo's strong points, yet people use it as a scapegoat for why games are becoming realistic.

 

[Godavari]

I think that the melee attack is significantly weaker this time around - I'd have to check, though.
As for the turrets and hammers, I really don't know what to say. They can't hold two pistols but they can rip off a mounted machine gun? Seems a little odd to me. : /
EDIT: just for clarity, I do think that they could hold it, but it's a question of whether or not they could:
a) rip it off it's stand
b) lug it around without using up stamina.
c) shoot it without having to drop it from the recoil

 

[The Hairminator]

those videos you have seen are probably played on easy. The real men will play on Heroic/Legendary for the best ODST experience.

 

[lostclause]

i'm only saying that don't you think that ODST soldiers should be weaker and rely on stealth, squad work and ambushing rather then confront the enemy head on.

How I wish that that were true. A little variety and a good stealth game would be great. However it seems like they've just returned to Halo 1 gameplay, dropped duel-wielding and equipment and put the health bar back in. Even the overpowered pistol seems to be back.

 

[Overlord_Dave]

I'm not that much of a Halo fan, so my knowledge is limited. But, from the trailers, the ODST troops do just seem like mini Master-Chiefs