OFFICIAL PS4 SPECS

[thetoddo]

Just in response to those who don't think Sony will sell at a loss, they will. None of the console manufacturers sell the consoles for what they cost to make. They sell them at a loss and then recoup the money by having a piece of the profit on every game that gets licenced/sold on the system. It's the way it's worked since the Xbox/PS2 generation at least.

 

[Silvianoshei]

8 CORE CPU of x86 architecture
8gb RAM
GRAPHICS CARD WITH GDDR5,176GB/S BANDWIDTH

State of the art,way more powerful than WiiU, comparable to modern high end pcs.

Actually, it's comparable to high-end PCs about 4 years ago. Still great, perfectly awesome, but not modern.

Modern high-end PCs run on CORE, not an APU. Dedicated graphics. My PC, with 2 680s in SLI, i7-3770K @ 4.6, and 32 GB of RAM (totally unnecessary amount, I know) is a high-end machine. It's not even the highest I could get it, it was only about $2k.

 

[DigitalSushi]

If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.

Actually a lot of us console gamers do care about the horsepower of our black boxes under the Tele, its just most of us prefer to sit on the sofa playing on a big plasma TV, that and the whole "faffing" about with a PC to get the game looking just right irks some of us.

Also of note is the price of entry for bleeding edge PC hardware, I'll leave you with an analogy;
not every petrol head has the money, resources nor inclination to buy and maintain a classic sports car. Same goes with gamers.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

I'm surprised the HDD is so small, especially in a world dominated by digital distribution. I thought anything between 500GB and 1TB was about standard for PCs these days, so why not the PS4?

If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.

Untrue. I'm a self confessed graphics whore and I can neither afford a top of the range PC nor can I be done with all the endless system tweaking needed to run some games. With a console it is (more or less) guaranteed that the game I buy will play on my chosen device.

That said, if either the PS4 or the Nextbox have an edge over the other graphically, I want to know because that's the one I will buy.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

Oops, double post.

 

[kurokotetsu]

So it isn't even better than a high end PC? Then I go with a high end PC. Yeah I cash out more, but I can run simulations (for my career that helps) and gradually upgrade. I was hoping that Sony did something different, unique, but a "high end PC" with a crappy Wii U knock off controler really doesn't sell it to me. Unless there are some great exclusives (and not eternaly delayed like The Last Gardian, which was the reason I was about to buy a PS3) I don't see anything special. A PC, teh Steambox seem better options now for me. At least with the Wii U I play somegames idfferently (and when I care abouthorsepower my PC is still standing).

 

[thejackyl]

System memory: 8GB
Video Memory: 2.2GB
CPU: 4x Dual Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (8 core)
GPU: AMD R10xx
HDD: 160 GB

My PC
System Memory: 4GB (I can upgrade to 32, if I wanted to)
Video Memory: 1 GB
CPU: Quad Core Intel i5
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 450 GTS
HDD: 500 GB

Looks like an upgrade from what I have on my PC (Sans the HDD). BUTby the time the PS4 launches, I could probably upgrade everything of mine to surpass it, and it would cost the same or less than a PS4.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

There are flaws to arguing video games on any site you go to. Hard to find a good debate.

Needless to say, you wouldn't do it on a Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo site. Can't be unbiased. Same for The Escapist, since they have the most elitist PC users on the planet. Steam Forums aren't as bad, and that says something.

Of course, less than 10 posts, the elitists are in at full volume, complaining that the PS4 isn't moddable, run everything 7 years in the future at the tech level of 7 years in the future, AND have a mouse and keyboard.

OT: I'd like to see more launch titles, and of course news on anti used games tech being exploited.

So much this^

I want a good debate and have always wanted one for quite a while now that doesn't simply devolve into "PC's are the master race, the end all to be all", but as we can see the majority on here are PC users with hybrids being few in between which does make it hard to form a debate let alone talk about one console without having the PC involved in it's discussion.

I've also been noticing the main problem coming from the PC crowd and it's to do with always having the bar of expectations from anything gaming set so high that they simply can't be debated with and that presents a massive problem for the future if more people carry on setting the bar to extreme levels without lowering for rational dicussion values.

That and I've noticed over the past year two camps of PC users:

One's that will always hate and blame consoles, spouting at how consoles will always keep them back even though PC only titles can get pushed to certain lengths as long as the devs are actually willing to.

And the other type who literally pigggy back consoles solely to see their own limits stretch while not giving a rats ass about the console that allowed those limits to stretch.

I consider myself a hybrid because I enjoy gaming across different consoles and my first rig is coming to completion but I'm not going to make it my main source of gaming and simply abandon the rest because i'm not setting my expectations bar to a high limit.

As long as I can enjoy the PS4 and Wii U I'll be happy because having fun is what counts and not graphics only in my eyes.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Ah, yes, but does it have red LEDs?

My PC has red LEDs.

Beat that, Sony.

The current generation of Sony Consoles (the Playstation 3) has red LEDs built into the controller (DualShock 3) and into the unit itself when in standby mode, while scanning it uses a blue LED and while switched on it defaults to a Green LED.

Sometimes we get a Yellow LED, BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT OK?

 

[Another]

The specs are mostly irrelevant part to a console. Now games.....real games, real footage of gameplay, that is all a care about. They can boast all they want about power, but if all we get are shiny versions of last gen games then whats the point in a new gen console? Off the top of my head, what about a new GT game with full realistic car damage and cockpit view for every car? What about a more open world WW2 shooter that isnt based on corridors. I mean if they can do that with Far Cry 3 and Fallout 3 - why not a WW2 based game in a destroyed german controlled city? Use the power to make games more epic in scale, not just for shinier graphics.

I feel the same. For all the arguing about specs and such, games are what matter, and frankly I wasn't too impressed. Most of the stuff looked like tech demos, and the rest were already well known or already released (Diablo 3) games. And tech demos mean nothing to me. Need to get some gameplay up in here!

And it's easy to do Sony, just say the words "Last Guardian on PS4 and here's a gameplay trailer" and its a done deal.

 

[theultimateend]

if nintendo can maintain their sales they can just release the wiiu2 a couple months after sony and ps with higher stats

If they called it "WiiU2" with a cubed version of 2.

and it looked like a new gamecube...

and used that controller...

I'd buy it >.>...

 

[Tom_green_day]

Personally, I couldn't care less about the graphics. I want loading times shorter, less freezing and more content in a game over how it looks. Hell, my favourite game (Fallout 3) looks ugly and it's part of the aesthetic. I find too many developers focus on graphics but it all goes to nothing as the aesthetic still looks ugly.

 

[Eridani74]

System memory: 8GB
Video Memory: 2.2GB
CPU: 4x Dual Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (8 core)
GPU: AMD R10xx
Ports: 4x USB 3.0 2 Ethernet
Disc Drive: Bluray
HDD: 160 GB
Audio Output: HDMI & Optical, 2.0, 5.1, 7.1.

Going to be released internationally (from Australia) within 6 months.

EDIT: Apparently I was misled. It's not coming out until the "Holiday season" so it could be more like 8 months.

The CPU isn't Bulldozer based, its based on the mobile/low-power Jaguar architecture. The memory is unified 8gb of GDDR5, no separate system/video memory.

 

[ResonanceSD]

If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.

Actually a lot of us console gamers do care about the horsepower of our black boxes under the Tele, its just most of us prefer to sit on the sofa playing on a big plasma TV, that and the whole "faffing" about with a PC to get the game looking just right irks some of us.

Also of note is the price of entry for bleeding edge PC hardware, I'll leave you with an analogy;
not every petrol head has the money, resources nor inclination to buy and maintain a classic sports car. Same goes with gamers.

Ah, I remember you, the mod who bans people for "mod sass"

Here's tomshardware's guide to a mini ITX gaming system for $530. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mini-itx-gaming-radeon-hd-7750,3369.html

There are dozens of sites like this for people who want more bang for their buck. The commonly thrown line of "ZOMG PRICE OF ENTRY" just does not hold water anymore. If people don't want to research anything and go for a console, fine, but they have no right to complain when people point out that what you're getting isn't as good as it could be for the same money.


EDIT: Here's PC gamer's article http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

on what the price for an equivalent PC is - right now.


I'm not sure what the "faffing about" you think that gamers do to get games to run. Buy from steam, install from steam, play from steam?

If you want to get SUPER technical, you install Nvidia Experience which tweaks game settings automatically.


Best of all, your $600 gaming machine can still run stuff that was released from game companies in previous years.

 

[DigitalSushi]

If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.

Actually a lot of us console gamers do care about the horsepower of our black boxes under the Tele, its just most of us prefer to sit on the sofa playing on a big plasma TV, that and the whole "faffing" about with a PC to get the game looking just right irks some of us.

Also of note is the price of entry for bleeding edge PC hardware, I'll leave you with an analogy;
not every petrol head has the money, resources nor inclination to buy and maintain a classic sports car. Same goes with gamers.

Ah, I remember you, the mod who bans people for "mod sass"

Here's tomshardware's guide to a mini ITX gaming system for $530. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mini-itx-gaming-radeon-hd-7750,3369.html

There are dozens of sites like this for people who want more bang for their buck. The commonly thrown line of "ZOMG PRICE OF ENTRY" just does not hold water anymore. If people don't want to research anything and go for a console, fine, but they have no right to complain when people point out that what you're getting isn't as good as it could be for the same money.


EDIT: Here's PC gamer's article http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

on what the price for an equivalent PC is - right now.


I'm not sure what the "faffing about" you think that gamers do to get games to run. Buy from steam, install from steam, play from steam?

If you want to get SUPER technical, you install Nvidia Experience which tweaks game settings automatically.


Best of all, your $600 gaming machine can still run stuff that was released from game companies in previous years.

I'll repeat what I said earlier
"money, resources nor inclination to buy and maintain", its more to do with the fact that we can't be bothered and we don't want to do it, we don't want to spend the money on a gaming rig because we already have a laptop that we don't want to play games on.

but they have no right to complain when people point out that what you're getting isn't as good as it could be for the same money

We aren't the ones complaining (well I'm not), its the PC crowd that's screaming at us wanting confirmation that their gaming Rig has more horsepower , I'm saying I don't care about a gaming rig.

I'm not complaining, I'll be perfectly happy with either a Xbox720 or a PS4.

I've re-read this thread and as far I can tell no console peasants are bemoaning the PS4's lack of power compared to a PC.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

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I'm not complaining either and yet it's taken me around a year and a half to mae my own rig due to financial reasons but I'm still going to be content with grabbing a Wii U and a PS4.

Only moaning I've ever seen on here mostly is PC only users whining and complaining about consoles holding them back, consoles not having the "ultimate K+M setup", not supporting mods etc.

At the end of the day I could care less about my rig because it will primarily serve as my main means of everything else I already do on this laptop and maybe a little gaming on the side but I'll mostly be playing on the new consoles because I like simplicity and don't like constantly upgrading and splashing out money I don't have on parts that could just as easily fizzle or burn out.

 

[Christopher Fisher]

8 CORE CPU of x86 architecture
8gb RAM
GRAPHICS CARD WITH GDDR5,176GB/S BANDWIDTH

State of the art,way more powerful than WiiU, comparable to modern high end pcs.

I would say it's comparable to mid-range PCs. High end is GTX670-SLI/Crossfire (with a $200+ intel cpu) setup. That 8gb of shared RAM seems to really be throwing people off.