GFWL is a clunky and annoying system from my experience, and that's when it works. When it doesn't it drives me mad. I've only used it for 2 games and that's more than enough, thanks.
Oh, silly GFWL
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Well if you are ever interested in the DoW2 franchise you should know that Retribution has dropped GFWL like a hot potato and now solely uses Steam.thiosk said:
My first, and worst, experience with GFWL was with GTAIV on Steam. Since then I've encountered it in a few other games... in all cases it is an unnecessary addon that just slows down the game and barely functions as multiplayer. Just use Steamworks and let GFWL die.
Especially in GTAIV as it came out... three services, Steam+GFWL+RSC? Insane. Not to mention that the bloody GFWL thinks I live in Netherlands, USA (WTF?) and I cannot alter this.
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Especially in GTAIV as it came out... three services, Steam+GFWL+RSC? Insane. Not to mention that the bloody GFWL thinks I live in Netherlands, USA (WTF?) and I cannot alter this.
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At least you can get it to recognise you have a mouse and keyboard. My copy of Batman: AA thinks I use an Xbox 360 controller during gameplay, despite me navigating around menus with the mouse. I have never been past the prison doors where the Joker was wheeled through, because I can't move.Summerstorm said:
Why is it so bad?
I have a few GFWL games, and it's absolutely no different from using Steam. Save for the need to log in occasionally, but without the annoying black popups.
I have a few GFWL games, and it's absolutely no different from using Steam. Save for the need to log in occasionally, but without the annoying black popups.
The only slight saving grace of GFWL is that I can track stats and achievements over multiple platforms. Beyond that, it's just a hindrance that seems to have little to nothing to add to the experience of the game, and it some cases just outright ruins the game.
It isn't terrible, but considering the alternatives - which actually offer benefits to the end-user (a list of games, direct-from-developer updates, universal stats tracking and an actually good instant messaging service built-in) - it's just an outdated piece of crap faux-DRM system that either needs the biggest overhaul since Windows 3.0, or to just die.
It isn't terrible, but considering the alternatives - which actually offer benefits to the end-user (a list of games, direct-from-developer updates, universal stats tracking and an actually good instant messaging service built-in) - it's just an outdated piece of crap faux-DRM system that either needs the biggest overhaul since Windows 3.0, or to just die.
I really dont mind GFWL. Much like anything there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Actual ownership, or at least something closer than steams "We want to look benevolent but when push comes to shove you dont own anything.
Cons:
They simply do not have good prices. It is rare when they offer something that could actually be called a deal. Consider the best deal from them in recent memory was Age 3 for 10c and that was in November. Given that steam has multiple deals per week its hard to call that competitive.
Much like anything that has the microsoft logo, Its saturated with processes that start on bootup and end up whoring up memory needlessly. And its never something as simple as ending the process. Only way I found to stop these processes was to manually configure windows via MSconfig to not load these processes. A rather annoying thing to not be able to simply shut a program off.
Beyond all that, what I have seen from GFWL its not too terribly bad. I honestly did not see a lot of technical differences from Steam. Basically the same functions, different shell. I do not know if its from posessing a better understanding of windows than most or Having a better than average PC that can handle GFWL, but honestly my ability to play anything through it has yet to be hindered by anything other than my own simple errors.
Pros:
Actual ownership, or at least something closer than steams "We want to look benevolent but when push comes to shove you dont own anything.
Cons:
They simply do not have good prices. It is rare when they offer something that could actually be called a deal. Consider the best deal from them in recent memory was Age 3 for 10c and that was in November. Given that steam has multiple deals per week its hard to call that competitive.
Much like anything that has the microsoft logo, Its saturated with processes that start on bootup and end up whoring up memory needlessly. And its never something as simple as ending the process. Only way I found to stop these processes was to manually configure windows via MSconfig to not load these processes. A rather annoying thing to not be able to simply shut a program off.
Beyond all that, what I have seen from GFWL its not too terribly bad. I honestly did not see a lot of technical differences from Steam. Basically the same functions, different shell. I do not know if its from posessing a better understanding of windows than most or Having a better than average PC that can handle GFWL, but honestly my ability to play anything through it has yet to be hindered by anything other than my own simple errors.
I can't believe People would actually defend GFWL never mind that it's inferior to its competition in almost every way. Its horrible for the people that live in "Unsupported countries." When they purchase a GFWL game they get this wonderful message telling them that they can't use the games multiplayer because GFWL is not supported in their country. How the fuck is that even legal.I didn't pay 60 bucks so I could only use the games single player.