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Amphoteric

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I've always wondered. Why doesn't someone just shoot voldemort?

You know......

With a gun.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Why not just set up turrets and sniper nests across hogwarts to defend it?

There is no logic in the world of Harry Potter.

NONE.
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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Generic Gamer said:
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Anyone find Muggle kind of a racial slur? Doesn't that make Hogwarts kind of like those backwoods communes Louis Theroux would go visit?
That's one of the underlying themes of the books. Even discounting Voldemort and the various Ministry Nazi impersonators the magical world is astonishingly backwards and bigoted. Even on a good day when everything's going as it should muggles are never treated with more than patronising affection or petty cruelty. I don't know whether Rowling did it deliberately (though I personally think she did) but the magical world is shockingly backwards in a lot of ways.

Muggle is a real word incidentally, just a slightly dated one. It means literally 'idiot'. That should give you some idea how their society operates. Oh and 'squib' is a shortening of the term 'damp squib' meaning 'disappointment'.
Well, lets be honest, the Muggles kinda deserved it. Y'know, what with all the periods in history that they tried to commit wizard genocide (albeit very unsuccessfully), and forcing the entire wizarding world into hiding after all
 

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why are some things arbitrarily banned as muggle technology while others aren't? Magic of course.


Also, according to QI, a muggle used to mean someone that smoked a lot of marijuana. Maybe it has something to do with wizards banning anything that was made while the inventor was high. Was lazlo biro high when he made the ballpoint pen?
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Why not just set up turrets and sniper nests across hogwarts to defend it?

There is no logic in the world of Harry Potter.

NONE.
They actually explained in one of the books that Muggle technology will always break or malfunction in places where there is a large magical presence, like magic and physics are two competing forces and magic is always more powerful, in the same way that magnetism can defy gravity.

and as I explained in another thread, using bullets against people that can teleport in the blink of an eye, bend and deform metal without needing to expend any strength, and create force-fields around themselves that are impenetrable to anything other than the most powerful kinds of magic, is not going to be as effective as just using magic.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Why not just set up turrets and sniper nests across hogwarts to defend it?

There is no logic in the world of Harry Potter.

NONE.
They actually explained in one of the books that Muggle technology will always break or malfunction in places where there is a large magical presence, like magic and physics are two competing forces and magic is always more powerful, in the same way that magnetism can defy gravity.

and as I explained in another thread, using bullets against people that can teleport in the blink of an eye, bend and deform metal without needing to expend any strength, and create force-fields around themselves that are impenetrable to anything other than the most powerful kinds of magic, is not going to be as effective as just using magic.
Yes, but you forget that a bullet will reach you before you can think, most machinegun's have a mussle velocity of a mile in under 2 seconds, seeing something that small travaling that fast and being able to react, you would have to have the reaction time of like God.

Didn't Rawing even say that bullets are faster than spells?

But what I want to know is why does tech malfunction? Does magic automatically crush the gas chamber or turn the Bullets sideways in the magazine?
 

teisjm

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You take the scope from the sniper rifle, and attach it to the wand.
Aveda kedavra camping sniper noob FTW!
Yes, it's stupid, they should embrace technology, at least the parts of it they could use, and just ignore the kinds that magic makes obsolete.
This was probably done for the sake of the setting, letting it play out more like a sword 'n sorcery genre, but with a twist.

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Anyone find Muggle kind of a racial slur? Doesn't that make Hogwarts kind of like those backwoods communes Louis Theroux would go visit?
Muggle ain't racist, it's not races, more like a often inheritable mutation or something, muggles can give birth to a wizard/witch, two people of the same race can't concieve a child of another race.
It also, and most importantly, ain't racist, because theres a huge fucking difference between wizards and muggles, making wizards superrior to muggles. You won't find a lot of differences between say black people and white people making one superrior to the other, the only one i can think of ATM is, that black people as far as i know, suffer from skin cancer extremely rarely compared to white people, and theres a cure coming out for skin cancer within a few years.
Wizards are extremely more potent and powerfull compared to muggles, they can do all sorts of crazy shit making them unquestionably superrior human beeings, a difference skin color/race won't ever be able to do by itself, but only because of the way society can discriminate.

Look up "racism" i'm not sure it actually means what you think it means
And while not aimed at, but just slightly related to your post, the word racism gets thrown around in all sorts of retarded ways (repeating myself, not your post), even on this forum.
 

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I've always been of the opinion that the magic folk are a scourge and they need to be detained. The Paladin society does some pretty horrific shit to raise their tolerance to magic, but at least they don't have the devil's water flowing in their veins.

EDIT: Aside from dumb discussions of RPing in a society that could accommodate magic and tech, I think that they are sort of the opposite. Technology is applied science and logic. Magic is the defiance of logic through inherently inexplicable means. I think they'd disrupt each other. A with/wizard wouldn't be as strong in a power station and an Iphone might lose function in a magical area like Hogwarts or a coven of magic wielders.
 

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The technology in the wizarding world is for the most part a century or more behind, since they can get by just fine with magical alternatives. It seems that anything with electricity is foreign to them, and J.K. Rowling actually said that electronic devices don't work in Hogwarts (something to do with magical interference). In some cases their system is far superior, as with their transportation, but in others they are hopelessly backwards, like owls as a means of communication for fucks sake.

A few of the more well educated, as well as muggle borns, are definitely aware of how Muggle technology works, but it's possible they are opposed to it as they see the archaisms of the wizarding world as an essential part of their culture. Or they are simply indifferent to it.

Or, most likely, I'm just thinking too deeply on a fantasy world.
 

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"Remember Harry, when a group of people are different than you it's nice to come up with a funny name for them or slur."
 

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According to Pottermore, the train wasn't all fine. Pureblood, traditional wizards were appalled by the fact that their children would be using Muggle technology to get to school.

I think, in general, anything that was created prior to the early 20th century is all right. Elevators have been around since 236 BC in some fashion, with the modern elevator being used as early as 1887. Radio is pushing it, since it was popularized around 1920. Cameras have been used since 1836 with Daguerreotypes, Kodak releasing a film camera in 1888. Ballpoint pens were first sold in 1945. I think it just takes a lot of time for wizards to start using muggle technology, and only use it if they find it useful.

Not sure if my information is particularly useful, but it's relevant.
 

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Simple. Its all a delusion in Harrys mind.
Harry suffered a head injury while being sexually assaulted by Michael Jackson and the entire thing is just a crazy hallucination caused by Harrys brain swelling. Thats what the scar is, where he bashed his head open.

I present 3 pieces of evidence that will prove once and for all that its just because Harry is fucked up.

A) His best friend is a ginger.
B) He spends all this time with Hermione and never tries to hit that.
C) Michael Jackson = Voldemort [http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/25/128720778590520988.jpg].

I rest my case.
Oh, that makes sense, Pokemon (The anime) is a coma dream, as well. Hmm, what can this logic be applied to? I'll come up with something...
 

hiks89

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imagine some sort of dr who episode where the muggles are fighting a bloody war with the wizards...BOOK 8!!!!!
 

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Yea logic left them far behind, I always thought that isn't a piece of muggle tech that would work really well in that situation while reading the book perhaps way better then their magical solution.
The last book they were left without a proper magical communication method, why not use a cell phone honestly. Hermione lived as a muggle for 10 years couldnt she remember cell phones existed. The wizarding world isnt especially tech savvy i doubt they could pull off a cell phone hacking ring.
 

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The wizarding world isnt especially tech savvy i doubt they could pull off a cell phone hacking ring.
Oh I so would watch Harry Potter crossed with The Wire. The Weasely Brothers start having their wares stolen by Omar. Hagrid and McNulty hit the bars together but Hagrid accidentally kills a hooker and they have to cover it up. Meanwhile Snape has to get rid of a batch of potions that had ill effects on customers.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Why not just set up turrets and sniper nests across hogwarts to defend it?

There is no logic in the world of Harry Potter.

NONE.
They actually explained in one of the books that Muggle technology will always break or malfunction in places where there is a large magical presence, like magic and physics are two competing forces and magic is always more powerful, in the same way that magnetism can defy gravity.

and as I explained in another thread, using bullets against people that can teleport in the blink of an eye, bend and deform metal without needing to expend any strength, and create force-fields around themselves that are impenetrable to anything other than the most powerful kinds of magic, is not going to be as effective as just using magic.
I thought it just meant Electrical things would go haywire, like Bugs or Radio or something like that. I mean when Ron suggests summoning a Scuba tank I think the only problem is that it's too far away and would break Wizarding Secrecy if seen, not that it wouldn't work. So I think it's only some Muggle technology that goes haywire around large amounts of magic [footnote]probably not the Wizards themselves, but the Magic emitted by Hogwarts/the various charms on the Castle[/footnote]. I mean in theory a gun should work, as there's nothing electrical about it, only expanding gasses. I mean Rowling said herself, that in a flat out war between Muggles and Wizards that the Muggles would win; partially because of numbers, and partially because of the Technological advantage that Guns and other Modern Technology brings
 

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Lionsfan said:
NinjaDeathSlap said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Why not just set up turrets and sniper nests across hogwarts to defend it?

There is no logic in the world of Harry Potter.

NONE.
They actually explained in one of the books that Muggle technology will always break or malfunction in places where there is a large magical presence, like magic and physics are two competing forces and magic is always more powerful, in the same way that magnetism can defy gravity.

and as I explained in another thread, using bullets against people that can teleport in the blink of an eye, bend and deform metal without needing to expend any strength, and create force-fields around themselves that are impenetrable to anything other than the most powerful kinds of magic, is not going to be as effective as just using magic.
I thought it just meant Electrical things would go haywire, like Bugs or Radio or something like that. I mean when Ron suggests summoning a Scuba tank I think the only problem is that it's too far away and would break Wizarding Secrecy if seen, not that it wouldn't work. So I think it's only some Muggle technology that goes haywire around large amounts of magic [footnote]probably not the Wizards themselves, but the Magic emitted by Hogwarts/the various charms on the Castle[/footnote]. I mean in theory a gun should work, as there's nothing electrical about it, only expanding gasses. I mean Rowling said herself, that in a flat out war between Muggles and Wizards that the Muggles would win; partially because of numbers, and partially because of the Technological advantage that Guns and other Modern Technology brings
In a fair fight probably, but if a wizard like Voldemort were to make war on Muggles I doubt they'd fight fair. They'd infiltrate governments, kill or possess the leaders, disguise the larger attacks as freak accidents and rely on the fact that nobody would ever believe that magic was real until they saw it for themselves, and even then most Muggles would try and find a more rational explanation. Even if they were caught in the act, they could just possess or wipe the memories of the person who caught them

In the Harry Potter series it is Voldemort's tactical brilliance that is arguably far more important than his magical abilities. On of the most common traits in the wizarding world (especially concerning Death Eaters) is hiding in plain sight. No way would they just wage open warfare straight away. They'd only show themselves once it would be too late to do anything to stop them.