Ohio Girl tries to sacrifice mother to Slenderman

[Auberon]

Internet really does make you stupid. Should I facepalm at their lack of common sense, or applaud for fellow Goons having exposed it via creepypasta?

 

[Thaluikhain]

There is either some Manson level of stuff going on, or this girl thought the time was ripe to commit a copycat crime.
Either way, what worries me most is the inevitable politicizing of these events to push for more control over the internet under the guise of "think of the children!" Pretty intriguing in light of the war on net neutrality. And lets not forget the fact that there's a video game to be scapegoated too.

I'm glad no one has died from either event. I hope this doesn't get sensationalized. But sadly it will.

Well, sensationalised enough to get copycats going.

The media should be a lot more careful with how it deals with certain stuff, or they'll have another story to report in a little while. Yes, I know.

 

[Phasmal]

What the hell.
This is probably just a copycat because of how everyone flipped their shit about the first one, but seriously what the hell.

What is wrong with some people. Stabbing someone is not constructive to fixing your problems in life.

It's like murdering people to "appease Betty Boop". Why would you do this?

... I'm not sure if I was supposed to laugh at that, but I did. Dammit.

 

[Sampler]

Well, sensationalised enough to get copycats going.

The media should be a lot more careful with how it deals with certain stuff, or they'll have another story to report in a little while. Yes, I know.

Wouldn't they have a story anyway, just possibly with a different framing? I think these young girls have very serious problems and need help, a trigger is a trigger, whether it bit Slenderman or the guy out of Scream, they'd've found something to hook onto, an excuse for their concious.

Really annoyed I never shot the Slenderman based short I'd planned with my friends before moving to Oz, would've had mad hit's after the last few week..

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

...Kinda creepy, what if some In The Mouth Of Madness shit is going on?

I'm kidding of course. But still, odd that people took this character so much.

Well, your not the first one to think of that. As I've pointed out a few times, one big conspiracy theory going around has been that the proliferation of these kinds of internet Memes/Creepypastas, found footage video movies, ghost hunting "reality" shows, and other things are part of a disinformation campaign to ensure that anything weird that is uncovered would be ignored and/or easier to cover up. Basically if I got online here and posted "OMG, weird stuff is happening, I think I'm about to die... or be replaced by a duplicate" and went into exhausting detail about insane, creepy, stuff that had been going on, would you believe it? Nope, you'd think it was a creepy pasta. Even if I put up a video and linked it, showing monsters/aliens/whatever running around you STILL wouldn't believe it. Yet despite this it's commonly argued "well, nothing weird like in a movie can happen IRL, because if it did it would be all over the internet inside of a minute".

As this has been going on, there has been some talk about Slenderman and his involvement in pop culture and so on for example, and of course there has been mention of people dressing up as the character and "photobombing" places for fun. An interesting point as it basically means that even if someone DID ever find a real pic of Slenderman it would be dismissed as a hoax because "everyone knows cosplayers do this kind of stuff" even if the photo couldn't be proved to have been shopped.

I'm not a big believer in that kind of thing, but, I'll be honest in saying I've put more thought into it recently than I have in a long time. Right now it seems like a crazy act and some copycatting for attention by a disturbed fan of the same material.

THAT said, one thing that I want to know is where this information is coming from. See, the thing that strikes me as dumbest about this whole thing is that people like to look at the incidents and say "this is not how this works" in response to killing people for Slenderman... like the people are idiots and don't even know the creature they are attempting to impress. The messed up portion of this is that the kids doing this are apparently obsessive fans, this girl here for example was apparently so "into" Slendy that she was designing virtual minecraft worlds. The two girls involved in the previous stabbing were heavily into the Creepypasta and initially said they believed the sitemaster
of their favorite site WAS Slenderman. Basically, these are the kinds of people who are going to know everything we, more casual fans, know, and probably more due to their obsession, they are not likely to "do it wrong" and instead correct other people simply because of the level they took it to before the violent acts. What we need is to know the source of this information, in the first stabbing apparently it was something they read online on a Creepypasta site apparently that gave them the details and convinced them.

There is a sort of pattern here, young girls, obsessive Slenderman fandom, stabbings to get his attention. I don't actually believe there is anything supernatural going on, but I do think there is a bit more than meets the eye. They are keeping the investigation close to their chest, but personally my first thoughts are of long distance brainwashing of the impressionable, cult behavior, and things like that. I suppose it's equally insane in it's own way, after all as a Forensics major and trained investigator I'll be the first one to tell you have rare crap like that is in real life, but my first thought is that someone is specifically finding impressionable young girls with issues online through creepypasta forums and gradually talking them into this. Wierder things have happened through letters exchanged with prison inmates and the like, with women marrying their prison pen pals on death row and everything else. The meticulous planning originally, similarity in this attack, obsessive fandom, and of course details about this faux-mythology being different than everyone else knows..... I won't be surprised if they eventually track this all down to some charismatic whack job with a computer and a talent for getting disturbed young girls to try and kill for him.

Any way it goes though, it's not that big a deal, we've dealt with crazies before, and even if this is some kind of supernatural meta-event covered by a conspiracy it's not like people are dropping like flies.

You are correct that there probably is a pattern but not supernatural but psychological. It has been shown if a murder or massive event is publicized, copycats with similar MOs, motives or details pop up. I believe that to be the case in combination with the high proliferation of the mythos which makes it easy for someone to simply claim it

 

[Uratoh]

the Tall Man is not pleased.

http://img2-2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/090824/Tall-Man-Phantasm_l.jpg

 

[Thaluikhain]

Well, sensationalised enough to get copycats going.

The media should be a lot more careful with how it deals with certain stuff, or they'll have another story to report in a little while. Yes, I know.

Wouldn't they have a story anyway, just possibly with a different framing? I think these young girls have very serious problems and need help, a trigger is a trigger, whether it bit Slenderman or the guy out of Scream, they'd've found something to hook onto, an excuse for their concious.

Possibly, but then again, they might not have moved up to the "attempted murder" stage. Maybe they'd muck around in the basement and then grow up.

 

[Coruptin]

You know that episode of southpark where Goths think evil plants are controlling their mind?
Yeah this is just impressionable children believing that they're special and part of something larger than they are. Like victims of hypnotism they were fully aware and willing participants. If more details are released confirming that they have an actual mental instability I will recant my position, but until then they get no sympathy from me for whatever punishment befalls them.

 

[djl3485]

Obviously the main issue in both cases is knives. Had knives been banned this never would have happened.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Obviously the main issue in both cases is knives. Had knives been banned this never would have happened.

Nah, teenage girls. We have to ban teenage girls.

 

[Buckshaft]

...What the fuck is even going on in America?

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Parents need to tell their kids not to believe what they read on the internet. And kids need to realise when they're going too far.

 

[seris]

its all pewdiepies fault

 

[SanguiniusMagnificum]

its all pewdiepies fault

Exactly, I think it's HIM that we need to sacrifice in order to appease the Slenderman.

On the other hand, hypothetically, why would Slenderman even need sacrificing? I mean, he's perfectly capable and willing to kill folks himself (well, according to the creepypastas) so what's the point of recruiting pre-teen girls to carry out his will? It just seems a little bit stupid.

Like a werewolf outsourcing to gangbangers.

 

[Dalisclock]

Its sounds more like what they do with school shooting. Was there a school shooting? If so, did the shooter play video game? If so, insinuate that video games, or in this case Slender Man, did it.

Because unlike every other form of media, video games are SO REALISTIC that people just can't tell the difference between a video game and real life.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

Funny... There was a Paranormal Podcast I use to listen to. There was this thing they use to talk about, that "Tropa" or something. This idea that if imagine something hard enough it would become reality. the problem was it would start benign but eventually become evil.

Tulpa is the word you're thinking of. Pretty sure it was in an episode of Supernatural (as was Slendy, kindof).
And if the internet managed to make a Tulpa of Slenderman we'd all be pretty f*cked because there is some significantly DARKER shit out there.

 

[Thyunda]

Funny... There was a Paranormal Podcast I use to listen to. There was this thing they use to talk about, that "Tropa" or something. This idea that if imagine something hard enough it would become reality. the problem was it would start benign but eventually become evil.

Tulpa is the word you're thinking of. Pretty sure it was in an episode of Supernatural (as was Slendy, kindof).
And if the internet managed to make a Tulpa of Slenderman we'd all be pretty f*cked because there is some significantly DARKER shit out there.

I was thinking the same thing - it was an early season of Supernatural in which the paranormal investigation website starts believing some made-up stories and propagating them until people believed it so much it actually started to exist. Didn't know it was the word 'tulpa' though, I never remember stuff like that.

D'you know, that's actually a terrifying concept.

 

[Piorn]

Maybe I'm missing something, but where in the Slenderman myth is a sacrifice a way to earn slenderman's goodwill or apprenticehood?
Doesn't befriending "the Stranger" stand in contrast to everything he does?
That's like asking the spirit of "Revenge" for forgiveness.

Just wondering, since it's the second case recently.

 

[Piorn]

Funny... There was a Paranormal Podcast I use to listen to. There was this thing they use to talk about, that "Tropa" or something. This idea that if imagine something hard enough it would become reality. the problem was it would start benign but eventually become evil.

Tulpa is the word you're thinking of. Pretty sure it was in an episode of Supernatural (as was Slendy, kindof).
And if the internet managed to make a Tulpa of Slenderman we'd all be pretty f*cked because there is some significantly DARKER shit out there.

I was thinking the same thing - it was an early season of Supernatural in which the paranormal investigation website starts believing some made-up stories and propagating them until people believed it so much it actually started to exist. Didn't know it was the word 'tulpa' though, I never remember stuff like that.

D'you know, that's actually a terrifying concept.

Well a Tulpa isn't necessarily evil. It's basically just a piece of your mind that through meditation and focus acts like a seperate personality. Like a desktop buddy for your brain.
It isn't real in the sense that it interacts with the world, but people claim it's like a second personality in your head that thinks for itself, and maybe that's real, who knows.

 

[Thyunda]

Funny... There was a Paranormal Podcast I use to listen to. There was this thing they use to talk about, that "Tropa" or something. This idea that if imagine something hard enough it would become reality. the problem was it would start benign but eventually become evil.

Tulpa is the word you're thinking of. Pretty sure it was in an episode of Supernatural (as was Slendy, kindof).
And if the internet managed to make a Tulpa of Slenderman we'd all be pretty f*cked because there is some significantly DARKER shit out there.

I was thinking the same thing - it was an early season of Supernatural in which the paranormal investigation website starts believing some made-up stories and propagating them until people believed it so much it actually started to exist. Didn't know it was the word 'tulpa' though, I never remember stuff like that.

D'you know, that's actually a terrifying concept.

Well a Tulpa isn't necessarily evil. It's basically just a piece of your mind that through meditation and focus acts like a seperate personality. Like a desktop buddy for your brain.
It isn't real in the sense that it interacts with the world, but people claim it's like a second personality in your head that thinks for itself, and maybe that's real, who knows.

I didn't know it was a real thing in any context, so I've learned something today. And it's my birthday. Hooray. Now I always thought Slenderman preyed on children, I don't really understand where this whole sacrifice thing has come from. If these were more obvious killers, the copycat theory would work but while I don't have much more than a rudimentary knowledge of criminal psychology, I just can't quite comprehend the idea that mentally unstable (American teenagers seem to have more than a passing relationship with medication no matter their background) teenage or pre-teen girls will kill their friends or parents just because it got attention on the news. This particular case isn't a girl frightening her mother by dressing and acting like Slenderman and then claiming no knowledge, this was an actual murder attempt and that alone warrants a bit more attention than simply "They did it for attention."

Again, there is a huge divide between teenagers talking about or threatening to kill their parents or friends and actually going through with an attempt.

I don't think this is entirely in their heads. Whoever brought up the online 'guide' character, I think that's the most likely cause here. Just saying 'They're mentally ill, no more to see here' is not enough, and all that does is propagate the idea that if somebody is mentally unwell then they are prepared to murder at the drop of a hat and we're all at least semi-educated around here and we know that's not true.

I'll have to wait for more instances before I can be sure, but someone is taking advantage of the followers of the CreepyPasta community. Or something. Maybe Slenderman is influencing kids to kill their companions so they'll be alone and he can strike.

Or whatever it is Slenderman actually does. I thought he was just some supernatural child-molestor.

 

[nepheleim]

Well, this went a direction that I wasn't expecting. More than likely we're going to see about 8 or 9 of these "slender" related incidents for the same reason as the whole homeless guy zombie face eating thing back in Florida. These sorts of things happen kind of frequently, whether due to mental health system failures or just bad parents/people, and the news glosses over them. Throw in one high profile event (our "sacrifice to fictional character" girls) and now the news, to get higher ratings, will find every instance possible of young people hurting each other and then checking if they even visited Creepypasta at some point in the last year.