Ok so what is the actual plot and the stakes in One Piece? SPOILERS ABOUND

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jademunky said:
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It's 868 and it's only around 70% done, also over 20 movies/ovas/specials too. Each 1-2 hours long.


It's the biggest anime franchise in Japan for a reason lol.
Bit of an accessibility issue there. Like a newcomer getting into World of Warcraft 15 years in. Or ANYBODY reading the Horus Heresy.
If you want any Info about World of Warcraft lore. I am your guy.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
jademunky said:
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It's 868 and it's only around 70% done, also over 20 movies/ovas/specials too. Each 1-2 hours long.


It's the biggest anime franchise in Japan for a reason lol.
Bit of an accessibility issue there. Like a newcomer getting into World of Warcraft 15 years in. Or ANYBODY reading the Horus Heresy.
If you want any Info about World of Warcraft lore. I am your guy.
I played and finished all 3 single-player games, and their DLC and played WOW from launch up till the Burning Crusade before losing interest. I cannot imagine even attempting to explain the lore of Azeroth with a straight face.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
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What is this Venture Bros. level deep lore?

I think this is the reason why One Piece will never become 100% worldwide mainstream as Dragon Ball and Pokemon because of this incredibly deep and tangled web of plots.

Don't get me wrong it is interesting none the less. But it certainly paints our protagonist's as far smaller in this large world. Like is Luffy going to end up becoming a Pirate God-Emperor of the Seas by the end of this?
It's like the longest form of a JRPG I can think of. The initial reason the journey starts becomes so trivial compared to the final goals. But enough time has been put into Luffy's character to make it believable he'll bumble-fuck his way into the web of lies that holds the world together and rip it apart just cause the bad guy says that he shouldn't do it.

One piece is massive in Japan, but I agree, it's got soap opera levels of plot lines and references thanks to how long the story has been progressing. The world is actually growing and becoming more and more detailed as the years go by, and somehow finds a way to keep things interesting...Although they did recently bring up literal time travel, which I think can only be a sign that the creator is starting to run out of ideas after 20 years of expanding on the same story, which seems fair.
Depends on how exactly they are gonna use time travel and where are they going to time travel too.

Because so far the overall big picture plot you guys mentioned so far, I think the time travel plot device is gonna be used to find out about the Void Century and the origin of One Piece.

But the bigger question is our protagonists going to be thrown back into the past and actually be present in it and potentially affect history at large because that would be dumb like: "It was actually Luffy that X and Y happened in the future"?
Eh...Not as likely as you think. Time travel was introduced via Devil Fruit, so it's an ability that only one person can have at any given time. It's also a "strictly forward in time" kind of time travel, so while someone from the void century could have theoretically made it to the present, based on the rules we know, nobody can go back to the void century.

As to the question of whether the "Devil" in Devil Fruit means anything...They've never really gotten into that, and it's strongly implied that the world is about as ignorant on the matter as the audience is. There's mythology and rumor around them, but the details are vague and unreliable outside of what is directly observable. Some supernatural element does seem probable considering how we saw a regular fruit become a devil fruit after the user's death, but that's about the extent of our knowledge.
 

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jademunky said:
Dreiko said:
It's 868 and it's only around 70% done, also over 20 movies/ovas/specials too. Each 1-2 hours long.


It's the biggest anime franchise in Japan for a reason lol.
Bit of an accessibility issue there. Like a newcomer getting into World of Warcraft 15 years in. Or ANYBODY reading the Horus Heresy.
I look at it the other way, if you happen to like it you just got yourself a few years worth of entertainment.

It's anime, not a job, just watch and if you like it keep watching and if you get sick of it take a break. I took one for a decade which I came back from this year and caught up (well, up to the latest episode this July anyhow).
 

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I have a new question to ask so I am bumping this thread.

The Yonkos.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Yonko

And Shanks is one of them. But 3 of them have been and will be Luffy's enemies. So why is Shanks among them?
 

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Actually, it's quite simple: The Yonko are not allies. If anything, they're rivals. This is kinda addressed in the name when it's actually translated. Yonko literally translates to "four emperors". Their defining feature is that each of them has enough power and influence to effectively be an emperor with their own empire in the New World.

How each views the others varies by individual. Shanks and Whitebeard seemed to have a mutual respect, whereas Kaido tried to move in on Whitebeard's territory while the latter was trying to rescue Ace (a move blocked by Shanks).

Put simply, Shanks being one of the Yonko simply means that as far as most people are concerned he is one of the four strongest and most influential pirates in the world.
 

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Actually, it's quite simple: The Yonko are not allies. If anything, they're rivals. This is kinda addressed in the name when it's actually translated. Yonko literally translates to "four emperors". Their defining feature is that each of them has enough power and influence to effectively be an emperor with their own empire in the New World.

How each views the others varies by individual. Shanks and Whitebeard seemed to have a mutual respect, whereas Kaido tried to move in on Whitebeard's territory while the latter was trying to rescue Ace (a move blocked by Shanks).

Put simply, Shanks being one of the Yonko simply means that as far as most people are concerned he is one of the four strongest and most influential pirates in the world.
But is he still a friend to Luffy?

Because I feel that this series has not yet tackled treachery against Luffy yet as far as I know.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Asita said:
Actually, it's quite simple: The Yonko are not allies. If anything, they're rivals. This is kinda addressed in the name when it's actually translated. Yonko literally translates to "four emperors". Their defining feature is that each of them has enough power and influence to effectively be an emperor with their own empire in the New World.

How each views the others varies by individual. Shanks and Whitebeard seemed to have a mutual respect, whereas Kaido tried to move in on Whitebeard's territory while the latter was trying to rescue Ace (a move blocked by Shanks).

Put simply, Shanks being one of the Yonko simply means that as far as most people are concerned he is one of the four strongest and most influential pirates in the world.
But is he still a friend to Luffy?

Because I feel that this series has not yet tackled treachery against Luffy yet as far as I know.
Strictly speaking, they haven't seen each other since Shanks gave Luffy his hat. And also technically speaking any crew not explicitly allied with or subordinate to another is a rival. With that said, Luffy and Shanks (and his crew) have consistently been portrayed as having a near familial closeness, and Shanks has reacted to news about Luffy like a proud parent might and described the sacrifice of his arm to save Luffy as betting on the future. By all indications, if the two come into conflict it will be on good terms and probably closer to a passing of the torch than actual competition.
 

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So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
 

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Can't be the fifth yonkou cause that just means "four emperors" meaning there can only be four of them, so he dethroned big Mama and took her place. They're not an organization but more like a title of the biggest pirates around so anyone who is among them is simply terribly strong but not necessarily Luffy's enemy. If anything, Shanks is why others haven't attacked
Luffy, in a way he's indirectly offering him protection for now.


As for Shanks, he and Luffy have not yet directly met. He's still his idol/mentor but they also will most definitely end up fighting at some point. I see him fighting Shanks like how he fought Garp.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
Luffy beating Big Mom is more akin to setting fire to her house and running away with some of her stuff. She now has an even bigger grudge against Luffy, culminating into a multi-emperor alliance against the Straw Hats.

The current goal of the Straw Hats is sort of a joint objective to save the Mink tribe/Child Shogun and defeat Emperor Kaido who controls Wano. Additionally collecting any Red Poneglyphs on the way that will tell them where the One Piece is. They got the Poneglyph Big Mom was carrying so that will likely lead them to their next point of interest Post-Wano.

On a side note: I'm loving the change of art-style in the Wano Arc.
 

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Nuuu said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
Luffy beating Big Mom is more akin to setting fire to her house and running away with some of her stuff. She now has an even bigger grudge against Luffy, culminating into a multi-emperor alliance against the Straw Hats.

The current goal of the Straw Hats is sort of a joint objective to save the Mink tribe/Child Shogun and defeat Emperor Kaido who controls Wano. Additionally collecting any Red Poneglyphs on the way that will tell them where the One Piece is. They got the Poneglyph Big Mom was carrying so that will likely lead them to their next point of interest Post-Wano.

On a side note: I'm loving the change of art-style in the Wano Arc.
So what could possibly happen after Wano is done and Luffy kick Kaido's ass?

Because remember last year, Oda said that this whole story is roughly 80% finished.

By the sound of it, they might actually go FIND the One piece at last with these Red Poneglyphs.
 

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It's going to be funny that the treasure was the adventure all along. How likely is that going to be?
I think it?s going to be the Rio Poneglyph that Robin is looking for. As it contains the One Piece(heh) of history that has been lost to time. And it will document the worst of the worst that the Dragons have done to the point that they?ll be overthrown by every pirate, citizen and nearly every Marine in the world.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
It was less about beating her, more about setting up for the eventual fight which I think will most likely take place on Elbaf, since Elbaf has been foreshadowed for a long time, Big Mom's back story began there and it could be where the final Road Poneglyph is.

Plus there's the very short, but very sweet, Reverie arc which dumped quite a bit of information and world building such as the Revolutionary Army making it's move against the World Government, more intrigue around Shanks and Bonney, Kuma now being a slave for the Celestial Dragons and the introduction of Imu, who now joins in the race between Akainu and Blackbeard for the position of being the final antagonist.

Nuuu said:
On a side note: I'm loving the change of art-style in the Wano Arc.
Toei seem to be going all in for Wano, especially with that first episode, it was fantastic.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
Probably nearing the 70-80% mark. I recall Oda saying that he was at the half-way point a few years back. Granted... that might also mean we've just breached 60% going by his speed.
 

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Elfgore said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
Probably nearing the 70-80% mark. I recall Oda saying that he was at the half-way point a few years back. Granted... that might also mean we've just breached 60% going by his speed.
I think by the end of Wano and Luffy beats Kaido, we might be close to whatever endgame this is heading to.

Luffy would have bested both Kaido and Big Mom by now. So all that is left of the Yonkos is Blackbeard and....Shanks.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Elfgore said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So I am watching One Piece again. I am actually watching from Episode 1 now, while at the same time watching the current anime arc.

So Luffy in the Anime is now in the land of Wano.

So at this point where are we right now in the story?

Luffy apparently is now the 5th Yonko. And he kinda/sorta beat Big Mom?
Probably nearing the 70-80% mark. I recall Oda saying that he was at the half-way point a few years back. Granted... that might also mean we've just breached 60% going by his speed.
I think by the end of Wano and Luffy beats Kaido, we might be close to whatever endgame this is heading to.

Luffy would have bested both Kaido and Big Mom by now. So all that is left of the Yonkos is Blackbeard and....Shanks.
Personal guess, Luffy will never fight Shanks. Kidd is going to kill him. It'll be all dramatic, with Luffy running up to hug Shanks, then Kidd will ambush him from behind and kill him with a gun or something. I think the drama and Luffy's response beat out how observation haki works. Just my guess though.
 

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madwarper said:
If I wanted to watch a show with pirates, navy, weird powers and some mysterious treasure, I'd watch Outlaw Star again.
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