Okay...because I'd like the subject to be discussed somewhat respectfully...

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SolidState said:
Too Many Secrets said:
No one actually paid, remember? Kross gave everyone with more than 6 months PubClub for free.
See above. And I think your criteria is wrong, otherwise I would have been given it too.
Pretty sure the criteria was *12* months, not 6. And at the time the PubClub freebies were given out (back in May) your account was actually just under a year old.

So in other words, you...

 

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I guess I'm just not important enough to shitpost in the Ol' West...But I don't care! Whatever! I'm too cool for shitposts anyway!

 

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You lost me there. Not really the wild west, more like the early east.
 

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Eh. Why not? Could it really be worse than the tone this site is infamous for?
I'm curious. What do you actually mean? (Bearing in mind that I've seen other sites that are run 'differently' from this one.)
The passive-aggression. It's pretty common for the arguments here to be nothing more than a couple people dominating the thread by doing nothing more than belittling the other in a manner that they hope will goad the other into actually breaking the rules. It's bullshit because it's every bit as unproductive as YouTube comments yet the site didn't moderate it while punishing those who rightfully got upset at it which in my mind was everything but an outright endorsement. If being passive aggressive wouldn't get you in trouble but responding to it in any other manner would, what exactly would any user do? Either attempt to be as big of an asshole or just decide not to participate. I was adamant when the new mods came in that they put something to the effect of "no passive aggressiveness" in the COC and was overjoyed when they did so.

I do admittedly still wish it was more strictly applied, though. It took Pluvia (one of the worst offenders on this site in my mind) years to get banned and even then it was only after they went into the mod chats and insisted that they had the right to be passive aggressive and the mods had no idea what they were doing in the most passive-aggressive manner I've ever seen them have. Even then it took two days of constant posting for them to rightfully eat that ban.

On the other hand, the new forum at least removes the obligation to abide by the rules that favour passive-aggression. I'm hoping it'll act as a boxing ring where people just take their grievances there, hit each other as hard as they can and then walk away with a sense of catharsis that won't get anybody in trouble. Sure it runs the risk of carrying grudges back over subforum lines, but that happens with the current system anyways.
 

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While I've had my stupid fun in there, and it was stupid fun.

I like poking the nest a bit if I can get away with it.

That doesn't mean I don't think it's a stupid fucking idea that I don't see ending well, and that's because it is a stupid fucking idea that I don't see ending well.

There's already people in there being assholes, and I'm honestly surprised the sub-forum hasn't burned down yet. Then again, I thought the GID forum would have burned to the ground by now and it's still going.

That's cool, I guess.
 

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Whelp, I'm done with the Wild West forum. For the sole, sad fact that people are now taking it seriously. People are trying their best to actually discusses stuff in there, which is only resulting in dividing the user base (People who want to discuss all Off Topic things, for example, now have two forums top cruise. Same goes for Game Industry and so on) and legitimate, non-meme based shit posting.

Didn't take too long for the dumpster to catch on fire, did it?
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Whelp, I'm done with the Wild West forum. For the sole, sad fact that people are now taking it seriously. People are trying their best to actually discusses stuff in there, which is only resulting in dividing the user base (People who want to discuss all Off Topic things, for example, now have two forums top cruise. Same goes for Game Industry and so on) and legitimate, non-meme based shit posting.

Didn't take too long for the dumpster to catch on fire, did it?
Wasn't it a burning pile of shit to begin with? Isn't that the point of shitposts, post shits, shitty forums, shitting on forums and forums about shitting on shitposts?
Kinda' like when people ask "Remember when /b wasn't shit?". It was always shit.

And for good measure,
 

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Wasn't it a burning pile of shit to begin with? Isn't that the point of shitposts, post shits, shitty forums, shitting on forums and forums about shitting on shitposts?
Kinda' like when people ask "Remember when /b wasn't shit?". It was always shit.
You know what people say, Things can always get worse.
I am already looking forward 2017.
In fact, it is just the beginning.
 

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The passive-aggression.
Better the passive-aggression than the aggressive-aggression, since the former holds the big white sign stating that you really should curb your worst tendencies, while the latter is more-or-less a case of "Ah, fuck it". Since the latter school IS like Youtube or worse while the former holds you to trying to look like like something other than seething hatred, it's easy to see what I would prefer, at least. If you're not actually out to annoy someone, but somebody else is, shouldn't you feel better knowing that his or her hands are tied?

Anyway, that's my take on the thing.

AccursedTheory said:
Didn't take too long for the dumpster to catch on fire, did it?
 

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Houseman said:
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the people that were granted the status when Kross left were those that had managed to avoid significant mod wrath for more than a year
Is there any source on this? Specifically, do you have a citation for there being a health-bar prerequisite for getting premium status?
There was a post in the tech group by a mod back when the tech team was sacked. They said they looked at the code and gave the criteria. The post has since been deleted because the group chat keeps rolling back to the start of the year. The criteria can still be confirmed however.

There are at least 3 criteria:
1)The user must have been active within the prior 6 months

-Look at any old thread, you can tell who still logs in because they have no avatar and are "premium members"
Example

2)The user must have been a member for at least 12 months

-Many people came here from Game Trailers several months before the upgrade, they do not have premium accounts.

3)The user must have a certain amount of health left on their health bar

-I'm not sure if it's under 5 or under 7, but MarsAtlas did not get pubclub, at the time MarsAtlas was one tick away from being banned.

As you can see, each criteria can be isolated and confirmed. Also this seems to have been a one time deal and as far as we know the Pub Club is permanent and, according to Tippy2k2, applies to members who had already subscribed to the service(quoting since it's in Pub Club Forums):

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IceForce said:
tippy2k2 said:
Mine expires tomorrow so we shall see :D

Although maybe that's a flawed test since I didn't get mine in the giant free pit.
You raise a good point. What if the Pub Club mass-freebies only affected the people who were NOT already members, and the paid members are completely unaffected by it. This would essentially mean the paid Pub Club members get completely screwed over because their memberships still expire normally, leaving them with nothing, whereas the rest of us enjoy our freebies forever (as Barbas seems to be indicating that it's "permanent" for us, and we also have no visible expiry dates on our respective profile pages).
It is now officially past my expiration date and I am still here without opening my wallet. So if you had PubClub before and were wondering what would happen, you don't have to pay for it again.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Didn't take too long for the dumpster to catch on fire, did it?
I think of it less a case of the dumpster catching fire, and more a case of the dumpster being crammed with as much explosives as possible, placed in the middle of a fireworks factory, and everyone is given free matches/lighters.
 

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I think it's great. I'll take shit posting, memes, and open name calling over the passive aggressive, pseudo intellectual soap boxing this forum is full of.
 

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I think it's great. I'll take shit posting, memes, and open name calling over the passive aggressive, pseudo intellectual soap boxing this forum is full of.
Why would you take either of them? If someone offers you shit, or vomit, do you force yourself to choke one down or you do find a sandwich shop?
 

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Hydra i guess said:
JUMBO PALACE said:
I think it's great. I'll take shit posting, memes, and open name calling over the passive aggressive, pseudo intellectual soap boxing this forum is full of.
Why would you take either of them? If someone offers you shit, or vomit, do you force yourself to choke one down or you do find a sandwich shop?
The official slogan of the 2016 US Presidential campaign.

What I'm saying is, I'd rather someone call me a twat or tell me to fuck off than get a context-free breakdown of my post line by line accompanied with a passive aggressive deconstruction of every word or phrase used and a point-by-point refutation that's little more than a thinly veiled attack without consideration of context, tone, or intent. Because that's what I see here sometimes. Someone who's so blinded by their own opinions and ideology that as soon as they see a key-word that triggers them they're launched on to their latest keyboard crusade.

I stick around on this forum because for the most part, I enjoy the discussions here and there's predominately reasonable and well-spoken members. But I'm tired of people getting personally attacked and destroyed by someone who's main goal is clearly to bully or belittle them into submission while still avoiding moderation.

**Edit- Starting to sweat a little now.**
***Super Edit- Ohhhh I see what's going on here***
 

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Can we all stop what we're doing for a moment and talk about how I just named our banjumper for one go?

Am I magical? Just that good at naming things? Or is the banjumper just my alter-ego?
 

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Yeah, this whole thing sounds interesting- as in the Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times".

As for me, I won't be touching it with someone else's thirty-eight-foot long touching device.
 

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Can we all stop what we're doing for a moment and talk about how I just named our banjumper for one go?
Amusing, I guess, but about as important as being a member of Anonymous. A decided Meh.
 

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Adding a paywalled shit-talking section to a forum that's been losing a lot of members, and has been struggling in general seems so crazy that I wonder if it's the equivalent of opening more blood vessels on animal who's throat you've already slit.
 

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Einspanner said:
Adding a paywalled shit-talking section to a forum that's been losing a lot of members, and has been struggling in general seems so crazy that I wonder if it's the equivalent of opening more blood vessels on animal who's throat you've already slit.
Apparently a lot of people got past the paywall for free when one of the devs left and just handed out premium accounts. To everyone.

Except me.